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farkedup 10-09-2008 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by BCyber (Post 14872807)
How would any program auto add tags or keywords? I'm pretty sure that's impossible.

Have you looked at any of the feeds any sponsors provide? MANY of them on top of having nice title and descriptions also but keywords/categories for you. You simply take those and insert them into your DB. Like I've said before, the problem with this is there's a TON of category names being created that are exactly the same content. For example I have a bunch called "the rabbit" which clearly has to merge into masturbation

d-null 10-09-2008 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by sortie (Post 14874188)
You should know that the primary reason to charge a per domain license is to
make the script a cheaper price.....


the "Free Tube Script" in your sig is interesting

sortie 10-09-2008 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by d-null (Post 14874390)
the "Free Tube Script" in your sig is interesting

Sure is, it has a 2% traffic skim for me.
So once again those using it the least pay the least in traffic.

Barefootsies 10-09-2008 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by sortie (Post 14874188)
programmers try to make a living

Oh the humanity...

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

sortie 10-09-2008 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 14874496)
Oh the humanity...

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

:1orglaugh

Dude, come one. All programmers aren't making NATS kind of money.

Barefootsies 10-09-2008 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by sortie (Post 14874555)
:1orglaugh

Dude, come one. All programmers aren't making NATS kind of money.

I was kidding mate. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

It just makes me laugh in some of these threads how people want scripts to make them millions, but for next to nothing, and are unwilling to PAY for the development, additional licenses, support, and so forth.

I know in the development of my own CMS, and other scripts, programming can take a lot of man hours. Whether from scratch, or starting half way. The fact they need to make a living off their time and efforts is common sense.

However, people in adult, and mainstream, do not wanna flip the $50/100/200 for these programs they plan to build their business on.

Fucking crazy.

farkedup 10-09-2008 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by sortie (Post 14874555)
:1orglaugh

Dude, come one. All programmers aren't making NATS kind of money.

sortie I've done coding for this guy, he doesn't mind paying... He tends to be very sarcastic on forums. Who really CAN take a place like this seriously? I mean think about the comedy in this thread... Somebody that thinks he should pay somebody a small to no fee and "own" the code. If somebody wants a custom job that they can do ANYTHING they feel like then there's some things I can do for people like that starting at like $2k. In the mean time they can just pay $40 a SITE for my current tube script or if they spend so much time/money CUSTOMIZING a script then maybe they should just use a FREE option like vidiscript as a base. Or HOW ABOUT THIS? build your own! I've talked to a dozen programmers the past few days and not a single one of them believe outside of those sponsor imports that TEVS could possibly be more than a weeks worth of work. Obviously Zorgman has done an excellent job of making it extremely SIMPLE to use but it has come at too much of an expense of POWER.

ANyway I'm still tuning away on some of these feeds. The smallest stray line can cause oh so many headaches when you're trying to process such insane amounts of data!

BSleazy 10-09-2008 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by farkedup (Post 14874250)
Have you looked at any of the feeds any sponsors provide? MANY of them on top of having nice title and descriptions also but keywords/categories for you. You simply take those and insert them into your DB. Like I've said before, the problem with this is there's a TON of category names being created that are exactly the same content. For example I have a bunch called "the rabbit" which clearly has to merge into masturbation

Alright ya I understand that working with feeds that have the info. For some when I was reading this thread last night it sounded like you could just upload videos and tags would magically be added the match the video.

Barefootsies 10-09-2008 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by farkedup (Post 14875407)
sortie I've done coding for this guy, he doesn't mind paying... He tends to be very sarcastic on forums. Who really CAN take a place like this seriously? I mean think about the comedy in this thread... Somebody that thinks he should pay somebody a small to no fee and "own" the code. If somebody wants a custom job that they can do ANYTHING they feel like then there's some things I can do for people like that starting at like $2k.

Just get him some Moutain Dew and a lock for his door. :winkwink:

farkedup 10-09-2008 02:30 PM

Well I'm finding some feeds that don't have them included so I'm TRYING to code a description search tool so that I can tag them that way. That is one of my holdups. I might just have to roll this out with pretty much the same level of sponsors the nubiles script has simply because those are in a simple to use format already. I have some oddball bugs i"m still working out in some of my other imports that aren't quite working well enough to use in production environments yet. I will be going through EVERY sponsor on this large list I have in front of me and coding in support for everybody that has more than a certain number of videos available.

Target has Dew 3/$10 and when you buy 5 you get a $5 gift card.... I'm going to call down to Super Target in South Bend and see if they have that special. To keep me working I think I'll buy like 20+ 12 packs and get a bunch of gift cards THEN bring those cans back and get "deposit" on them which would bring the price per can under $.18 which with my civic hybrid actually makes it worth the trip LOL plus my wife has gift cards for target and babys r us which are side by side down there AND far bigger than the ones we have in Kzoo

Barefootsies 10-09-2008 02:33 PM

Damn man.

You have the working on this shit, and Dew equation down to a science.

farkedup 10-09-2008 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 14876025)
Damn man.

You have the working on this shit, and Dew equation down to a science.

I'm one of those guys that absolutely works his ass off 3-4 days a week and screws around 3-4 days a week and it works best that way. I work 12-16 hour days though when I'm focused. Last night I actually worked about 6 hours and played like 6 hours of xbox so I might have hit that brick wall that happens during these "binges"

halfpint 10-09-2008 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by farkedup (Post 14876129)
I'm one of those guys that absolutely works his ass off 3-4 days a week and screws around 3-4 days a week and it works best that way. I work 12-16 hour days though when I'm focused. Last night I actually worked about 6 hours and played like 6 hours of xbox so I might have hit that brick wall that happens during these "binges"

One word..FOCUS..

send me that xbox its no good for you.. I need it more than you anyway :winkwink:

Barefootsies 10-09-2008 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 14876222)
One word..FOCUS..

send me that xbox its no good for you.. I need it more than you anyway :winkwink:

Toe hee!

sortie 10-09-2008 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BCyber (Post 14875880)
Alright ya I understand that working with feeds that have the info. For some when I was reading this thread last night it sounded like you could just upload videos and tags would magically be added the match the video.

Tubecgi does exactly that.

Tags are auto-created from descriptions.

d-null 10-09-2008 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by sortie (Post 14874451)
Sure is, it has a 2% traffic skim for me.
So once again those using it the least pay the least in traffic.

that is a good way to do it, with an option to pay later if you want to turn off the 2% (if/when your site's revenue reaches the point where 2% of it's revenue is equal or greater to the price of turning off the skim)

this makes it much more feasible for experimenting and setting up sites on domains that you are not sure you may keep in the future

will be watching the options and will give your script a try on a few domains to start

Godsmack 10-09-2008 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BCyber (Post 14875880)
Alright ya I understand that working with feeds that have the info. For some when I was reading this thread last night it sounded like you could just upload videos and tags would magically be added the match the video.

STXT does this by utilizing the descriptions..

farkedup 10-09-2008 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by d-null (Post 14876691)
that is a good way to do it, with an option to pay later if you want to turn off the 2% (if/when your site's revenue reaches the point where 2% of it's revenue is equal or greater to the price of turning off the skim)

this makes it much more feasible for experimenting and setting up sites on domains that you are not sure you may keep in the future

will be watching the options and will give your script a try on a few domains to start

I was talking to somebody about this a couple days ago. I've been playing around with some skimming tools in my script so that when you click some of the video links you auto go to a sponsor.

In a market like this EVERYBODY is expecting the world for free. So many people remove the copyright linkback on free scripts and the only way I could offer a skimming version would be to encode chunks of the script. I've even considering putting my full 1.x out with some sponsor import tools for a skim %

fris 10-09-2008 06:07 PM

stop saying you are going to do it, and do it, all talk no game

farkedup 10-09-2008 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by fris (Post 14877365)
stop saying you are going to do it, and do it, all talk no game

There's already some people who I've sent the first round of sponsor imports to ;) If you want to be one of the first email [email protected] what script you use if you have my script I can get it to you TODAY if you send me $50 and you'll get future updates. I have several sponsors fully supported and am working on fixing a few bugs in the next round of sponsors I'm supporting.

If you don't own my script yet then for a TOTAL of $90 I can have you up and running TONIGHT and you will still get the other sponsor addons when they're released. ETA for vidiscript support is Monday.

fris 10-10-2008 10:36 AM

Why would I buy entertainmentscript?

Almost every script thats out there is better and has better and more features

FiReC 10-10-2008 10:38 AM

There ARE solutions for sponsor hosted videos... both the Nubiles tube script and STXT have open formats (no special programming on our end) that allows any sponsor to get on board with their hosted FLVs.

The Nubiles tube script will be adding STXT XML format as an option for importing.

I believe it is in your best interest to follow BOTH the Nubiles CSV and the STXT XML format.

Please do not add another format into the mix.

farkedup 10-10-2008 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by fris (Post 14879940)
Why would I buy entertainmentscript?

Almost every script thats out there is better and has better and more features

My system CURRENTLY is only ready for ES, I was only saying that if you want it then its done for ES, My goal is monday for vidiscript support. I'm still working on category "merge" tools, had a bad line of code whipe out my DB so I'm switching to backing up constantly LOL
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Originally Posted by FiReC (Post 14879959)
There ARE solutions for sponsor hosted videos... both the Nubiles tube script and STXT have open formats (no special programming on our end) that allows any sponsor to get on board with their hosted FLVs.

The Nubiles tube script will be adding STXT XML format as an option for importing.

I believe it is in your best interest to follow BOTH the Nubiles CSV and the STXT XML format.

Please do not add another format into the mix.

dude I've already posted that I've chosen to only natively support the STXT XML so no worries. I'm not trying to push some kind of format standard for content. What I'm pushing for is a portable system that can import sponsored videos into ANY tube script.

Lamis 10-10-2008 11:03 AM

there is something I STILL don't understand.

A LOT of people say that TUBES are not profitable...

on the other side, A LOT of other people are always talking about how they buy that new script for their tubes and how they opened a new tube site...

So, what is the truth???

Barefootsies 10-10-2008 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Lamis (Post 14880140)
there is something I STILL don't understand.

A LOT of people say that TUBES are not profitable...

on the other side, A LOT of other people are always talking about how they buy that new script for their tubes and how they opened a new tube site...

So, what is the truth???

:helpme:helpme

farkedup 10-11-2008 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Lamis (Post 14880140)
there is something I STILL don't understand.

A LOT of people say that TUBES are not profitable...

on the other side, A LOT of other people are always talking about how they buy that new script for their tubes and how they opened a new tube site...

So, what is the truth???

there wouldn't be so many tube scripts and so many tube sites if there wasn't money in it, you'll just have to do things a little differently. The illegal tube sites make shitloads of cash on webcam and dating sponsors whereas the "legal" ones are nothing but sponsored videos and make their cash off the sponsors. I believe the sponsor ones are a LOT harder to develop traffic for but you make more per visitor.

Zorgman 10-13-2008 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by lamerhooD (Post 14869021)
That's quite a statement. I say we hold him to it.

You could, but don't hold your breath. :1orglaugh

Barefootsies 10-13-2008 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Zorgman (Post 14893628)
You could, but don't hold your breath. :1orglaugh


tom3k 10-14-2008 02:49 AM

perpackaged scripts are all crap.

custom code, 100% :P

Gordon G 11-28-2008 07:00 PM

:2 cents:So many better options than TEVS.:2 cents:

Godsmack 11-28-2008 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by tom3k (Post 14894258)
perpackaged scripts are all crap.

custom code, 100% :P

yeah, custom is the shit!!



NOT...

Barefootsies 11-28-2008 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Godsmack (Post 15118355)
yeah, custom is the shit!!



NOT...

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Godsmack 11-28-2008 08:20 PM

one more month people... one month....we will put an end to this bs discussion..

Zorgman 11-28-2008 09:13 PM

I like this discussion, so many new clients since this thread went up. :D

Iron Fist 11-28-2008 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by paymeback (Post 14868143)
you don't see sponsors saying xxx company doesn't convert switch to us.

You obviously missed the Suicide Girls thread... there are others but i'm tired. :2 cents:

Barefootsies 11-28-2008 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Zorgman (Post 15118495)
I like this discussion, so many new clients since this thread went up. :D

Thread backfire.
:1orglaugh

Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE 11-28-2008 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Zorgman (Post 15118495)
I like this discussion, so many new clients since this thread went up. :D

Bump for TEVS! :thumbsup

BOSS1 11-29-2008 12:21 AM

As a TGP/ Legal tube site owner, affiliate and a sponsor.
I used smart scripts for TGPs because it optimized my management of sponsor galleries. And it tracked which galleries get clicked on more so therefore bumped them to the top.

The tube scripts should do the same. When I want to import a list of videos from a sponsor it should be done same way as hosted galleries URL|NAME|DESC|THUMB

that would help affiliates focus on traffic instead of importing content which can be a long ass task.

Godsmack 11-29-2008 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Zorgman (Post 15118495)
I like this discussion, so many new clients since this thread went up. :D

And you deserve them :thumbsup

candyflip 11-29-2008 07:28 AM

So I take it Dean is officially out of business now? It's been over 30 days. :1orglaugh


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