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Old 10-06-2008, 11:27 AM   #1
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Finally Obama puts the pressure on...

Presenting the Keating Five, McShames history of robbing Americans of over 3 Billion Dollars.


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Old 10-06-2008, 11:30 AM   #2
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they look like mobsters
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Old 10-06-2008, 11:37 AM   #3
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they look like mobsters
They were mobsters. It was organised crime.

Not like Italian Mafia. If it were Italian Mafia
they would have got away with it
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Old 10-06-2008, 11:40 AM   #5
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomberg/20...rg/ayvd2e8yyjg

I bet Obama's people were just waiting for this one. No way to deny how close these issues with the economy are. Its going to get UGLY now.
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How is he getting this message out? ads? websites? what is this an excerpt from?
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Old 10-06-2008, 11:41 AM   #7
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Old 10-06-2008, 11:43 AM   #8
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How is he getting this message out? ads? websites? what is this an excerpt from?
http://keatingeconomics.com/

I wish the video was a little better. It seems to be paced a little bit too slow for a short film like that.
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Obviously the gloves are off now. Who started it THIS time?

Historically this happens every time there is an election in the US - it will get worse. What bothers me is that the one that spreads the worst STORIES typically win. You can look back as far as the 1800s to see this actually. Heck, Nixon was one of the worst of spreading lies and what happened???? Watergate.

Come on Dems and Republicans - Really?!?!
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Old 10-06-2008, 11:50 AM   #10
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I bet Obama's people were just waiting for this one. No way to deny how close these issues with the economy are. Its going to get UGLY now.

Interesting trivial note about the yahoo article:
They mention McCains age in the middle of the article even though it is completely irrelevant to the topic or to the sentence:
"Obama has opened up a lead over McCain, 72, in the aftermath of their first debate Sept. 26 as the economy deteriorates. "

Little subtle anti-McCain move by the author.
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Old 10-06-2008, 11:54 AM   #11
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The way I see it is that Obama's team have managed to beat the Republicans at thier own game. I have always believed this is exactly what the Democratic party has lacked. Democrats have lacked teeth, bowing down and being pussy's over the crazy accusations sprung on them by the likes of Rove and other political adversaries.

It's really high time that the Democratic party put on some gloves, to bad they waited till 2008 to grow a pair but late is better than never.

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Interesting trivial note about the yahoo article:
They mention McCains age in the middle of the article even though it is completely irrelevant to the topic or to the sentence:
"Obama has opened up a lead over McCain, 72, in the aftermath of their first debate Sept. 26 as the economy deteriorates. "

Little subtle anti-McCain move by the author.
That's pretty common in article writing. Though it does sound a bit odd injected into that sentence.
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Old 10-06-2008, 12:18 PM   #14
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Interesting trivial note about the yahoo article:
They mention McCains age in the middle of the article even though it is completely irrelevant to the topic or to the sentence:
"Obama has opened up a lead over McCain, 72, in the aftermath of their first debate Sept. 26 as the economy deteriorates. "

Little subtle anti-McCain move by the author.
Maybe they were talking about his electoral college deficit...oh wait, that's up to 90.
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Yeah, there's no doubt that McCain would not be good for the economy.

Glad to see people talking about these sorts of issues, finally. These are the types of things that need to be front and center in voters minds. Not Sarah Palin.
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Lead up for the debate.
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They were mobsters. It was organised crime.

Not like Italian Mafia. If it were Italian Mafia
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EXACTLY.
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The way I see it is that Obama's team have managed to beat the Republicans at thier own game. I have always believed this is exactly what the Democratic party has lacked. Democrats have lacked teeth, bowing down and being pussy's over the crazy accusations sprung on them by the likes of Rove and other political adversaries.

It's really high time that the Democratic party put on some gloves, to bad they waited till 2008 to grow a pair but late is better than never.
Agreed. it is great that Obama has lead a really well run and straight up campaign but I want to see someone win and not just the other guy lose.
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$3 billion dollars is just a day's pay for the unions, lobbyists, and brigade of special interests who have been promised the moon by Obama.

If Obama gets elected, get your checkbook ready.
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If Obama gets elected, get your checkbook ready.
Like Mccain is going to keep our taxes down or something. You cant have war without paying the price. Nobody is falling for your way over played talking points. Get ready to cry about the black man for the next 8 years.
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From what I can see, this was made for web. He's already got the people that are internet savvy...he needs these types of ads plastered all over Florida.
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Like Mccain is going to keep our taxes down or something. You cant have war without paying the price. Nobody is falling for your way over played talking points. Get ready to cry about the black man for the next 8 years.

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I take your $3 billion and raise you a $3 trillion war.
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TV ad blitz will lead assault on McCain's age and character

# The Guardian,Tuesday October 7 2008



Taking on McCain

Barack Obama is determined not to make the same mistake as John Kerry
, who lost the 2004 election because he failed to respond quickly and aggressively to Republican attacks on his character and his war record in Vietnam. The Obama camp has the resources to hit back. Strategists say he will increase advertisement spending by 20% a week until election day. The Democrats are also focusing on McCain's character - specifically his temperament, the not so subtle suggestions that at 72 he is too old to be president, and his former associations with a disgraced businessman. Strategists say the pattern of thrust and parry will continue until election day - but do not expect Obama to get involved. Obama is using television advertisements to take the fight to McCain, allowing him to remain statesmanlike and above the fray.

Erratic, or just too old?

John McCain's other big weakness as far as Obama is concerned is his reputation for losing his temper in senate committee rooms. The questions about McCain's temperament grew during last week's crisis on the Wall Street bailout. The Obama camp honed in on McCain's apparent inability to keep his cool in a new ad yesterday, painting the Republican as "erratic in a crisis". Campaign supporters like Claire McCaskill, a senator from Missouri, kept the line going on the chat shows: "One day, no bailout. The next day, a bailout. One day, I'm suspending my campaign. The next day, I'm not." Expect renewed calls for McCain to make a full release of his medical records.

George Bush

Obama in his own pronouncements has been trying to undercut McCain's claim to be a maverick reformer by weighing him down with the legacy of George Bush. The argument also tries to defuse McCain's negative campaigns by labelling them a distraction. "No wonder his campaign's announced a plan to turn a page on the financial crisis, distract with dishonest, dishonorable assaults against Barack Obama," said a new ad yesterday. "We can't afford another president who's this out of touch."

Guilt by association

McCain's biggest skeleton is his intervention on behalf of Charles Keating, a campaign contributor and Arizona businessman, who was convicted of fraud in the collapse of a savings and loan institution in the 1980s. McCain met federal investigators on two occasions in 1987 at Keating's behest, earning a rebuke from the Senate ethics committee. McCain claims he learned from the mistake and that set him on his path of reform. The Obama camp yesterday released a 13-minute web documentary about Keating and sent out an email to supporters claiming "John McCain still hasn't learned his lesson".

Beliefs

Like Obama, McCain has a troublesome pastor in his past: the Reverend John Hagee. McCain spent more than a year courting Hagee to win his endorsement during the Republican primary, only to renounce the association last February after footage emerged of the pastor describing the Nazi holocaust as part of God's plan. The association with Hagee could hurt the Republicans in Florida, where there is a large Jewish vote.

Sarah Palin also has a potential pastor disaster in the making, thanks to 2005 footage from her Assembly of God church in Alaska. The footage shows Palin joining a visiting pastor on stage while he denounces witchcraft. Expect more footage to emerge of Palin's own pronouncements from the pulpit as governor, including her statements about God's plan for the war in Iraq.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008...08.johnmccain1

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