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Old 10-06-2008, 11:08 AM   #1
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Cwie Holding Company, Inc Acquires Alpha Red, Inc.

TEMPE, AZ., October 6, 2008 ? CWIE Holding Company, Inc, owner of CCBill, LLC, today announced that they have finalized a purchase agreement with the Internet Service Provider, Alpha Red, Inc. for all hosting assets.

The CWIE purchase includes the acquisition of Alpha Red?s two privately owned datacenters in Houston, Texas, their 300 Gbps of internet connectivity, as well as their connections in 16 carrier neutral facilities throughout the United States.

?We are extremely pleased to announce this purchase and to welcome Alpha Red and their valued clients to the CWIE family of companies? said Ron Cadwell, CEO of CWIE Holding Company, Inc.

As an ISP, Alpha Red has specialized in providing service to companies with bandwidth intensive web applications and content distribution companies. Their hosting service offerings include web hosting, dedicated servers, virtual private servers, collocation services and dedicated Ethernet transit connections. With the CWIE purchase, Alpha Red retains their long-term operational funding to service and maintain their large portfolio of clients, which consists of web radio stations, online storage companies, file hosting web sites, and video media websites.

Based in Tempe, Arizona, CWIE Holding Company, Inc. is the parent company of CCBill, LLC, and Cavecreek Web Hosting. CWIE is an information technologies (IT) services and applications provider that develops, delivers and maintains innovative and marketable e-commerce, content protection, hosting, IP transit and CDN solutions.

Cavecreek Web Hosting & CDN was founded in 1996 and remains one of the longest-running, privately-owned, full-service hosting companies in the world and is one of Level 3?s largest bandwidth users. For more information, visit www.cavecreek.com

CCBill is a Limited Liability Company (LLC) based in Tempe, Arizona. Since its inception in 1998, CCBill has remained committed to exceeding client expectations for high quality performance and service. CCBill understands the credit card and payment industries and is committed to delivering innovative payment and affiliate marketing solutions to support the e-business initiatives of its global clients. An impeccable payment record, reliable problem-solving techniques and phenomenal customer support have all earned CCBill its reputation as the trusted leader in the industry. For more information, visit www.ccbill.com
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Old 10-06-2008, 11:10 AM   #2
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great news, glad you got the deal finalized
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Wow guess the deal is done how many jumped ship?


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Will for sure bring the level of service up and price down for their clients. Good purchase, props.
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This is fantastic news. Especially since a number of illegal tube sites were on Alpha Red. They definitely won't be welcome at CWIE unless they play by the rules. Great News!!!!
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This is fantastic news. Especially since a number of illegal tube sites were on Alpha Red. They definitely won't be welcome at CWIE unless they play by the rules. Great News!!!!
which ones? thanks.
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Tube8.com is hosted on alphared
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good to know.

my guess is they'll be on choopa soon.
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This is fantastic news. Especially since a number of illegal tube sites were on Alpha Red. They definitely won't be welcome at CWIE unless they play by the rules. Great News!!!!

I highly doubt they will do anything about these illegal sites. If they wanted to they could have already cut off the processing to any company doing advertising with these sites and they havent, so what makes you think hosting them will make a difference?
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Will for sure bring the level of service up and price down for their clients. Good purchase, props.
I doubt it will drive price down. Alphared was probably the cheapest hosting in adult nowadays.
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I highly doubt they will do anything about these illegal sites. If they wanted to they could have already cut off the processing to any company doing advertising with these sites and they havent, so what makes you think hosting them will make a difference?
you have got to be kidding me. out of the dozens of threads over the years about how somebody cant believe ccbill is processing for site X or site Y, because they have stolen content all over the place. and the site is looking for a new processor days or weeks later

an enterprise like ccbill is not going to risk their whole biz, including the billing side (which is what they risk losing if they dont follow the DMCA) to host sites that are going to break the law.
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you have got to be kidding me. out of the dozens of threads over the years about how somebody cant believe ccbill is processing for site X or site Y, because they have stolen content all over the place. and the site is looking for a new processor days or weeks later

an enterprise like ccbill is not going to risk their whole biz, including the billing side (which is what they risk losing if they dont follow the DMCA) to host sites that are going to break the law.

OK time will tell mate. Let's see all the illegal tube sites they now host get shut down. Maybe shap can give us a list or at least start the list and others can add to it. Then let's follow the progress?
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I was going to buy 1-2 AR servers this week before the whole ordeal happened. Will you guys be able to still do it with the pricing quoted or will they go up? Was looking at the 100 megabit package that was going around a while ago to tube sites. If not, no worries, I have another host that can honor the same pricing.
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I was going to buy 1-2 AR servers this week before the whole ordeal happened. Will you guys be able to still do it with the pricing quoted or will they go up? Was looking at the 100 megabit package that was going around a while ago to tube sites. If not, no worries, I have another host that can honor the same pricing.
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charles, we are still having our match or beat any price deal, so well get hold of you and make you happy. i dont like commenting on things until the details have been worked out, but let me say that we have not turned anyone away from an invoice they had brought to us, no matter how small. so im confident here
Gimme a month in that case, I'm just signing the deals this week with the hosts to get this project off the ground. 2 hosting deals in a day and still signing more. I'll get in touch with you once I get the first invoices from them. I know ccbill doesn't skimp on anything so if you can match the pricing, that would be incredible.
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I was with Alpha Red when it was Tulin Online before he had any dedicated boxes, it's nice to see that the long term staff might be able to be part of moving forward. It's also nice as a long term customer to hopefully see the service go back to where it was before it started sucking ass.

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charles, we are still having our match or beat any price deal, so well get hold of you and make you happy. i dont like commenting on things until the details have been worked out, but let me say that we have not turned anyone away from an invoice they had brought to us, no matter how small. so im confident here
What happens if i bring you an invoice that says 0.00?
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This will be interesting because alot of people are "boycotting" hosts like choopa, and were boycotting alphared because they host tube sites with stolen content.

If CWIE doesn't kick those sites off the network, are these same people going to boycott ccbill and all ccbill sponsors?

My guess is probably not, but it'll be interesting to watch them tie themselves in knots trying to justify it.
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What happens if i bring you an invoice that says 0.00?
luckily for us, that has not happened yet (so far)...we were counting on hosts charging their clients for hosting.

but what-if's aside, send us a valid quote and well match it, if your paying 0.00, fax your invoice (even if it says no payment necessary) over to us
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luckily for us, that has not happened yet (so far)...we were counting on hosts charging their clients for hosting.

but what-if's aside, send us a valid quote and well match it, if your paying 0.00, fax your invoice (even if it says no payment necessary) over to us
My invoice does show 0.00 I won't hold ya to that, but i gotta admit that's some dedication to your offer
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This is fantastic news. Especially since a number of illegal tube sites were on Alpha Red. They definitely won't be welcome at CWIE unless they play by the rules. Great News!!!!
I thought the exact same thing
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AlphaRed is so fucking slow right now it's ironic... takes about 2 mins to load the main page.
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congrats to a huge price increase... I was just about to order a few machines from AR but will hold off now and see what sort of price increase we see.
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corvette you guys gonna keep their price structure?

Please understand that I cannot comment on that right now, because this is so new and so many things are still being discussed.

But I understand that we have had a reputation as being a higher-priced/higher-quality host and that concerns some, based on some of the bandwidth prices that they have been getting through AR. I can assure you that we are striving to be much more competitive than we have previously with prices, as has been demonstrated over the past month with some of the bandwidth deals people have gotten during our ?Match or Beat any hosting deal with L3 CDN or hosting BW?

That said, expect to hear more as soon as these things are settled out. Sorry i could not give you a better answer.
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Corvette you have been asked several times in this thread about the illegal tube sites that are hosted on AR and have ignored to reply. Are you going to close these illegal sites, ? Yes or No?
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Corvette you have been asked several times in this thread about the illegal tube sites that are hosted on AR and have ignored to reply. Are you going to close these illegal sites, ? Yes or No?
Rome was not built in a day guys. I like many of you have been very vocal of my distaste for the illegal sites running at places like AR. However if anyone deserves a tiny bit of patience it's Ron and the CCBill staff during this transition.

The ink is not even dry and you guys are all over them with what will the new pricing be will you shut down sites. Give them atleast a few days to formulate a plan see what they have and what needs to be dealt with. This is a huge scale operation. I am sure that official releases will follow.
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Old 10-06-2008, 10:41 PM   #48
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But I understand that we have had a reputation as being a higher-priced/higher-quality host and that concerns some, based on some of the bandwidth prices that they have been getting through AR.
That would lead one to possibly suspect some tiered pricing based on the quality of the bandwidth provided ;)

Perhaps?

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Old 10-07-2008, 12:03 AM   #49
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Alpha Red... How big were they anyway?

I never heard of them until now.
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Old 10-07-2008, 12:07 AM   #50
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Alpha Red... How big were they anyway?

I never heard of them until now.
by the amount of bandwith used they are bigger then 95% of hosts that post on gfy.
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