Snake Doctor

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27038128/

Republicans to file complaint against Obama
GOP alleges the Democratic candidate accepted illegal contributions

WASHINGTON - The Republican National Committee plans to file a fundraising complaint against Democrat Barack Obama's presidential campaign Monday, alleging it has accepted donations that exceed federal limits as well as illegal contributions from foreigners.

RNC officials acknowledged Sunday that they do not have a list of foreign donors to Obama's campaign. Instead, the complaint is based largely on media reports, including one from a conservative Web site.

The complaint asks the Federal Elections Commission to audit Obama's campaign fund, RNC chief counsel Sean Cairncross said in a conference call with reporters.

Cairncross said little is known about many of Obama's donors because the campaign is not required to disclose detailed information about people who give less than $200.

The Obama campaign, which is not accepting public funds, has raised more than $468 million. About half has come from small donors, a point of pride for the Obama campaign.

The Obama campaign did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

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Ok so you're asking for an investigation based on allegations made by a conservative website (read: blog)
The allegation is that he's accepted contributions that exceed federal limits, but you don't have a list because he's not required to provide information on donors who give less than $200?

I guess they're hoping that getting the words "Obama" and "Investigation" in the same news story will help them?

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tony286

its very sad but thats all they have.

qxm

so all of those who gave less than $200 ... .get yo asses ready cause the GOP is going anal! ....

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kane

Yep, he is very desperate. Today Palin said he hangs out with terrorists. McCain's campaign is failing. He is behind in the polls and falling. He announced yesterday that they were "turning" the page on the economy and that they were going to focus on proving that Obama was not to be trusted with the job and he is not ready for the job. That means he is going dirty.

I'm sure Obama will give it back to him. He has been around for a long time and there is plenty of dirt on him to sling back. I also have a feeling Obama will be pointing this out during the debates. When it gets to the economic debate you can bet Obama will say something like, "John McCain doesn't have an answer for how to solve the economic problems this country faces so he is trying to distract you with scare tactics."

This is hail mary #3 for McCain. The first one was picking Palin and it failed. Now more independents dislike her than like her and while she has influenced the base, clearly it wasn't that much because they are still losing traditionally red states. The second was his, "suspension" of his campaign. It also didn't fail. Now he is tossing up another one and trying to scare people into thinking Obama is a terrorist that will destroy the country. I'm going to imagine this one won't work either. In the past they have worked because the democrats haven't fought back. Obama has proven he is willing to hit back. If you live in a battleground state you can expect nothing but mudslinging commercials on TV from here until election day.

tony286

its a comin
www.keatingeconomics.com

SoloGirlsContent

Obama is tired of fucking around with McCain,.. he's already to get up in that old ass of his..LOOK
http://www.keatingeconomics.com/

CybermedAndy

We knew it was coming .. especially once he started fading in polls

Sad/scary part is the smears tend to work on the (less savvy) public

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Snake Doctor

Nah, not this time.

The knucklehead silly season stuff works in a peace and prosperity election (see 1988 and 2000), but when the economy is in the shitter people tend to vote their pocketbooks. (see 1980 and 1992)

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pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE

The republican party and anyone who subscribes to their idiotic nonsense is retarded

.... to think that anything republican would be a benefit to anyone on this planet would "require a willing suspension of disbelief"

SoloGirlsContent

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE

wow what a kick ass ad

I wonder whos behind it

Snake Doctor

My guess would be the democratic national committee.




The reason that's my guess is because there was a full screen at the end of the video that read "Paid for and authorized by the Democratic National Committee, www.democrats.org. This communication is not authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee"

I could be wrong though.

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kane

Nice ad.

Drake

I think we all saw this coming.

Regardless, I think we're just in another political cycle. Republicans get the Whitehouse for several rounds then it goes Democratic. Round and round we go.

CybermedAndy

Lets hope you're right

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KillerK

Where the fuck do you hear she failed? If anything she has been awesome for him. It's great to see her go after him too. He is going to be very very bad for this country if he gets elected.

brassmonkey

Obama '08

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kane

These are the reasons I say she failed.

First http://www.electoral-vote.com/ Look at states like N. Carolina, Virgina, Missouri, Iowa and Indiana. These are states that have a large number of Evangelicals in them and are traditionally heavy republican states and she has done nothing to help swing them back in his favor. Sure she has fired up some of the base, but clearly not all of them.

Second http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...obama-225.html . this is a site that shows all the regular polls and averages them out. Look at the graph in the middle of the page. You can see McCain behind since the start then at the time he announces Palin and goes to the republican convention he gets a spike and takes a brief lead. Now he is right back where he was before he picked her. She has had a zero sum effect on the national polls.

The third, http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/...tml#cnnSTCText, is that around 36% (up from 26% a month ago) of independent voters have an unfavorable opinion of her and her favorable rating has dropped from somewhere around 60% a month ago to around 48% now. Also Rasmussen says only 29% of the people polled believe she is ready to be president (compared to the 49% that believe Biden is ready). In many cases this shouldn't matter. You vote for president not VP, but McCain is old and has had cancer 4 times and that clearly is weighing on people's minds. There is a higher than average chance that something could happen to him in office and we would then have her as president so people are looking at her more closely than they normally would and more closely than they are Biden.

McCain needs to win as many independents as he possibly can because Obama appears to have activated the far left base and it appears he is going to be able to turn out large numbers of democrat voters in places that democrats have failed in the last 20 years. If nearly 40% the independents don't like your VP and only 29% of them think she could fill in for the president she is not really much of an asset to him. Also, it doesn't help when you hide your VP candidate from the media and then when she finally does do interviews with someone that is not a republican pundit she comes off very badly. The debate did help her some, but really it wasn't that impressive of an effort and she came off more like a kid giving a book report and trying to look cute than a real VP candidate.

Anyway, these are my reasons why I say the hail mary pass that is Palin failed. She was meant to be a game changer and McCain is right were he was (and sinking) before he ever added her to the ticket.

cherrylula

I don't think its the Dem's time yet.... the only voters I know IRL are voting McCain (upper class). The only people I know who think Obama should win, don't even vote. :1orlaugh

Hillary 2012?

cherrylula

Is everyone in this thread registered to vote?

nation-x

Rick Davis and Steve Schmidt are retarded... they can't possibly come up with enough "questionable associations" to smear Obama with in response to the floodgate they just opened... Paul Begala was on Meet The Press yesterday and made it pretty clear... McCain has a torrid past with lots and lots of bad connections:

Mob Connections... notice this is a right wing site and the author is Jerome Corsi
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?pageId=57354

Rep. Rick Renzi (R-AZ) indicted for extortion, wire fraud, money laundering and other charges related to a land deal in Arizona, according to the Associated Press. Renzi and two former business partners were accused of conspiring to promote the sale of land that buyers could swap for property owned by the federal government.” Rep. Rick Renzi (R-AZ) was co-chair of McCain’s Arizona campaign (i.e., a member of Sen. John McCain’s (R-AZ) “National Leadership Team” and a co-chair of his Arizona Leadership Team). Renzi has been in the past a "good friend" of John McCain and they were seen together often.

Charles Keating. Then there is the Keating 5 Scandal and Charles Keating’s notorious friendship and association with John McCain back in the 1980’s. During the Keating Five affair Keating had made contributions of about $1.3 million to various U.S. Senators involved, including John McCain, and Keating had called on those Senators to help him resist regulators in exchange for the money. McCain and the other Senators got the regulators to back off, to later trigger the Savings and Loan Scandal which cost the taxpayer BILLIONS. Cindy’s dad the Budweiser Brewery kingpin also has special dealings with Keating.

Donald R. Diamond: McCain has done political favors for real estate developer Donald R. Diamond. McCain stepped in to use his official clout to facilitate a sale of land that Diamond had wanted to obtain. Diamond got help through red tape in dealing with the Department of the Army because Mr. Diamond “had been very active with Senator McCain,” a partner said in a deposition. For McCain, who has staked two presidential campaigns on pledges to avoid even the appearance of corruption, this is another instance, like the Keating 5 Scandal in which McCain dispensed official favors for Mr. Diamond, a longtime political campaign donor of McCain’s and one of an elite group of donors called “Innovators,” because he raised more than $250,000 for McCain’s campaign. Mr. Diamond invites public officials aboard his flotilla of yachts and specializes in deals with the members of government in exchange for campaign donations.

Richard Quinn. In the 2000 presidential primary, all the time he was blasting George W. Bush for campaigning at Bob Jones University, McCain himself was paying $20,000 a month to South Carolina political consultant Richard Quinn, a neo-Confederate revanchist who was one of the leaders of the state's pro-flag faction. Quinn was editor in chief of Southern Partisan, a magazine that published apologias for slavery and sold paraphernalia celebrating the assassination of Abraham Lincoln. Quinn himself once advocated voting for David Duke.The day after the South Carolina 2000 primary, McCain didn't distance himself from Quinn. Instead, he professed ignorance about Quinn's writings, just as Bush did about Bob Jones' policies, and argued, as Bush also did about Bob Jones, that Ronald Reagan had done the same thing he was doing. But where Bush later criticized Bob Jones in stringent terms after the fact, McCain continued to describe Quinn as "a man of integrity" who wasn't responsible for what appeared in his own magazine. Though McCain's Richard Quinn connection was worse than Bush's Bob Jones faux pas, it never turned into a big deal for one simple reason: The press let McCain get away with it, even as it held Bush's feet to the fire about Bob Jones anti-Catholic stance..

Charles Black Jr.: Senior McCain campaign adviser Charlie Black has friends in low places. Black served as chair of BKSH & Associates, a lobbying firm associated with Burson-Marsteller. He had ties to the tobacco industry as well. In March 2008, Black left his BKSH position to work full time for the presidential campaign of Senator John McCain. When Senator McCain's relationship with telecom lobbyist Vicki Iseman was questioned in early 2008, Black "made the rounds of television networks to defend McCain.Black's lobbying clients at one time included General Motors, United Technologies, JPMorgan and AT&T.

Black's relationship with McCain goes back more than twenty years, from the time McCain first came to Washington. They got to know each other well during (former Senator Phil) Gramm's 1996 presidential run. Gramm, the architect of deregulation which led to Enron and the subprime mortgage meltdown in later years, and now an investment banker, who has lately stepped down as official adviser to McCain because under fire in the press, but Mr. Gramm continues on in an unofficial capacity as a supporter of the Bush presidential campaign.. Black drew fire recently when he suggested that a terror attack would help John McCain, but maybe we shouldn’t have been surprised. Black’s past is littered with questionable associations with comrades from a 1970s young-conservatives group that has chalked up quite a questionable record in the years since.

Black went on to co-found the National Conservative Political Action Committee, the group that put slime-slinging “independent” groups on the map. His lobbying firm became embroiled in scandal, accused of using political favors to waste taxpayer money. What binds Black’s motley array of pals is a persistent derision for the notion that government might someday be conducted on the level.

Randy Scheunemann served as McCain's campaign foreign policy advisor in 2000 and is back in 2008, despite lobbying in the interim. Until May, Scheunemann was lobbying for the Republic of Georgia - earning more than $800,000 in the process - yet now in August, he's advising McCain on the conflict between Georgia and Russia. Scheunemann's other notable lobbying stints include putting his McCain ties to use in 2006 advising Greenberg Traurig, Jack Abramoff's former firm, as McCain served as chairman of the Senate Committee on Indian Affairs, charged with investigating Abramoff.

Ralph Reed: McCain has also enlisted Abramoff crony Ralph Reed to raise money for his campaign. Abramoff directed at least $4.2 million to Reed as he defrauded his clients, yet as chair, McCain never called Reed to testify before the Senate Committee on Indian Affairs during the Abramoff investigation. Lately,Reed's helping McCain fundraise, sending emails with the subject line "special invitation from Ralph Reed" to recruit donors to join him at McCain's fundraiser in Atlanta - and McCain is ignoring calls from nonpartisan watchdog groups to cancel the fundraiser.

Giuseppe "Joe" Bonano and the Bonano crime family: In 1995, McCain sent birthday regards to Joseph “Joe Bananas” Bonano, the head of the New York Bonano crime family, who had retired to Arizona. McCain also sent regrets for not attending Bonano’s birthday party. Another politician to send regrets was Arizona Governor Fife Symington, who has since been kicked out of office and convicted of 7 felonies relating to fraud and extortion. A quick search on OpenSecrets.org revealed that at least five members of the Bonano family made generous donations ($2,100 each) to the McCain campaign. Each member made a donation that was $200 less than the federal maximum on the same day.

Drake

It's all really silly. Both candidates have dirt on them. Fact is, they also both get briefings from the military, FBI, and CIA. They have clearance at the top levels of government. So, I'm confident they've been thoroughly vetted. But the smears, no matter how ridiculous and tenuous, will play to those that want to believe in them. Although this time around, I don't think it's enough to change the course of things.

Dare I say that Democrats AND Republicans in power will do what's required not to allow a possible Palin Presidency. The cute stuff is endearing to some, but frankly, it's not becoming of the serious role of VP. It's a dangerous world and a little more depth is required. Maybe if McCain had selected her far in advance and actually allowed her to get acquinted, things could work. But it just doesn't seem realistic at this point.

That being said, the smear strategy has worked wonders in the past so I'll never say never. It's just unlikely.

Drake

The Tuesday debate should be interesting. I wonder if it's going to be as tense as the first one or more cordial. Since it's attack season I'm guessing the former.

Eric_ALSSCAN

There's always going to be dirt... why must it always come down to a choice between a giant deuche and a terd sandwhich?

Biggy

The smears can work when the election is close.

When it's so far off, and we're going thru an economic crisis, McCain will be viewed as desperate as long as the Obama campaign defends itself with vigor and goes after McCain on the economy and on the tactics, and they are, and it should work. It also won't surprise me if Obama gets a little bit dirtier, and goes after Palin being under investigation, etc - that will go a lot farther away then going ridiculous with it and saying Obama associates with terrorists, lol. The Republican campaign is ran by idiots, it reminds me of the people who ran the Kerry campaign in 2004, it's total incompetence and people who are out of touch.

All Obama needs to do is rebuff what they are saying well with facts, and attack on McCain's desperation and the economy, and his lead will grow. In a way, it's too little, too late.