Some fucker is using one of my domains for email spamming, all my sites removed... - GoFuckYourself.com

CunningStunt · 10-04-2008, 11:29 PM

What a fucking low-life cheap stunt.

Nice way to temporarily knock over your competition for a day or two.

How can you stop fuckers doing this? You can't.

I've been with this particular host for 3 years and without warning they just remove all my domains. You'd think I'd have their trust by now.

I can move all the domains easily, but what's stopping this punk doing it again? It's obviously a competitor deliberately trying to knock me out of the serps.

What a fucking Sunday. Asshole.

papill0n · 10-04-2008, 11:30 PM

Uggg what a shitty thing to do man. Not only by the guy who did it but also by your host.

After Shock Media · 10-04-2008, 11:30 PM

Pick a host who will talk with you first before just pulling the trigger.

baddog · 10-04-2008, 11:30 PM

Your host removed your domains because someone was spoofing your email? They will be out of customers within a week.

sandman! · 10-04-2008, 11:31 PM

stop hosting with crappy hosts.

Redrob · 10-04-2008, 11:34 PM

If they are using your email as a return address for their spam, get the source IP#, report them for identity theft and see if you can collect damages.

Good luck as they are usually somewhere in a remote part of Romania.....

d-null · 10-04-2008, 11:36 PM

who was your host?

Redrob · 10-04-2008, 11:40 PM

If they hacked your mail server, you need to limit who can send mail from your IPs, domains, users, and block the rest. Put a hardware firewall on it too!

stevo · 10-04-2008, 11:42 PM

That shit happens to me all the time... I'm tired of the thousands of "Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender" email that i receive from those spoofing my email accounts.

CunningStunt · 10-04-2008, 11:47 PM

I've never set up one email address on their server, that's the funny thing (if there is anything funny about this).

I know it's easy to spoof someone's email address, but for the fucking host to just ditch the domains, that's really fucked.

Sorry, torrets syndrome kicking in.

DON'T DO BUSINESS WITH EXTREME-HOSTING.NET / HOST-HQ.COM

d-null · 10-04-2008, 11:55 PM

CunningStunt · 10-05-2008, 12:41 AM

lmfao d-null, I needed that.

Transferred the best performing of 10 sites on that host away just now, 9 more to go.

Cruddy way to finish a previously chilled Sunday.

baddog · 10-05-2008, 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CunningStunt

I know it's easy to spoof someone's email address, but for the fucking host to just ditch the domains, that's really fucked.

I usually avoid criticizing other hosts, but that was pretty unprofessional of them.

CunningStunt · 10-05-2008, 01:09 AM

Unprofessional is absolutely correct.

I signed up with them and another 4 hosts for a project 3 years ago, and this is the first problem I've had with them. To pull the plug on sites just like that is unbelievable.

I'm going to find some software out there to send out 10 million emails for "hosting services" with [email protected] as the reply address, see how they like it

tiptop · 10-05-2008, 01:23 AM

did you had Joomla or Wordpress running ?
do you have dedicated IP with your host?

CunningStunt · 10-05-2008, 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiptop

did you had Joomla or Wordpress running ?
do you have dedicated IP with your host?

All hand written sites.

Virtual hosting - had a quick project to set up and just went that route.

Good job I recently moved my critical sites to a dedicated server. $240 per month seems like a bargain to not have to put up with this kind of shite.

Jens Van Assterdam · 10-05-2008, 01:35 AM

Sucks to hear that

Pleasurepays · 10-05-2008, 07:18 AM

<note>note to self.... never use shitty hosting companies and expect top notch treatment and professional conduct like a fucking moron</note>

Antonio · 10-05-2008, 08:40 AM

it's your host that fucked you up, it takes them 2 seconds to realize that it's not you sending the mails but rather some guy using forged headers, so why did they suspend your domains then?????

BlackCrayon · 10-05-2008, 08:47 AM

I'm amazed that hosts do this. Its just way too easy for domains to be spoofed. They are stupid and should compensate you.

CunningStunt · 10-05-2008, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

I'm amazed that hosts do this. Its just way too easy for domains to be spoofed. They are stupid and should compensate you.

After threatening them with legal action, my sites are up. I moved a couple of the important ones last night regardless.

I've asked them to send me copies of the emails too so I can track this asshole down.

Yes, I've learnt my lesson with shitty hosts. The trouble is, spreading IP addresses across your network, it's way too expensive to go dedicated hosting on the lot.

baddog · 10-05-2008, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CunningStunt

The trouble is, spreading IP addresses across your network, it's way too expensive to go dedicated hosting on the lot.

Easier than you think.

CunningStunt · 10-05-2008, 02:10 PM

I'm not convinced that having different C class IP's is enough these days baddog. I could be wrong. Having 300 sites on 15 different hosts guarantees me totally different IP addresses.

xmas13 · 10-05-2008, 02:15 PM

Fuck them.

Barefootsies · 10-05-2008, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

Pick a host who will talk with you first before just pulling the trigger.

baddog · 10-05-2008, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CunningStunt

I'm not convinced that having different C class IP's is enough these days baddog. I could be wrong. Having 300 sites on 15 different hosts guarantees me totally different IP addresses.

Our plans include using different datacenters, so you can get different A's and B's as well. And all IP's are dedicated.

Much more convenient than 15 hosts and you don't have to worry about issues like the one you are dealing with now.

CunningStunt · 10-05-2008, 02:28 PM

Cool, thanks baddog. I'll hit you up next time I need some hosting.

signupdamnit · 10-05-2008, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CunningStunt

What a fucking low-life cheap stunt.

Nice way to temporarily knock over your competition for a day or two.

How can you stop fuckers doing this? You can't.

I've been with this particular host for 3 years and without warning they just remove all my domains. You'd think I'd have their trust by now.

I can move all the domains easily, but what's stopping this punk doing it again? It's obviously a competitor deliberately trying to knock me out of the serps.

What a fucking Sunday. Asshole.

Find out who it is and sue him as well as out him here and try to bring federal chaarges against him for fraud, etc.

sortie · 10-05-2008, 04:05 PM

Seems like the host could have checked your sendmail logs to see that there was
no spam going out.

Manowar · 10-05-2008, 04:06 PM

I dont think any hosts would can you for being jojobbed

Juicy D. Links · 10-05-2008, 04:13 PM

Next time dont piss people off

BluMedia · 10-05-2008, 07:52 PM

WTF my host would never pull some bs like that.

Mark

brandonstills · 10-05-2008, 09:11 PM

There's something that you can add to your zone file that is supposed to authenticate your emails as being the actual sending. It lets other hosts know if the emails they are getting are actually from the source. I forget what the record was called (not MX).

TeenCat · 10-06-2008, 05:06 AM

one of my hosting is dreamhost and i am receiving emails from my personal addy, and i am selling to myself swatches and pills and similar crap daily. its really that easy to spoof and use someones email addy? if yes it looks like nice security bug

Juicy D. Links · 10-06-2008, 05:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeenCat

one of my hosting is dreamhost and i am receiving emails from my personal addy, and i am selling to myself swatches and pills and similar crap daily. its really that easy to spoof and use someones email addy? if yes it looks like nice security bug

its a fake spoof that is easily done but any host who woould look at message headers can tell it isnt sent from the domain at hand....

Unless off course the person got into the server and used the actuall domain in question to send emails then in this case email are coming from domain in question due to person hackin gthe box

the orginal way is just to spoof email "FROM" like [email protected] so to naked eye it look slike its from the domain

Host should look into it first rather than pulling plug

TeenCat · 10-06-2008, 09:33 AM

thank you for reply always happy to learn something new

10-04-2008, 11:29 PM	#1
CunningStunt Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,594	Some fucker is using one of my domains for email spamming, all my sites removed... What a fucking low-life cheap stunt. Nice way to temporarily knock over your competition for a day or two. How can you stop fuckers doing this? You can't. I've been with this particular host for 3 years and without warning they just remove all my domains. You'd think I'd have their trust by now. I can move all the domains easily, but what's stopping this punk doing it again? It's obviously a competitor deliberately trying to knock me out of the serps. What a fucking Sunday. Asshole.

10-04-2008, 11:30 PM	#3
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10-04-2008, 11:30 PM	#2
papill0n Unregistered Abuser Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 15,547	Uggg what a shitty thing to do man. Not only by the guy who did it but also by your host.

10-04-2008, 11:30 PM	#4
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	Your host removed your domains because someone was spoofing your email? They will be out of customers within a week.

10-04-2008, 11:34 PM	#6
Redrob Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In a refrigerator box by the tracks. Posts: 4,791	If they are using your email as a return address for their spam, get the source IP#, report them for identity theft and see if you can collect damages. Good luck as they are usually somewhere in a remote part of Romania.....

10-04-2008, 11:40 PM	#8
Redrob Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In a refrigerator box by the tracks. Posts: 4,791	If they hacked your mail server, you need to limit who can send mail from your IPs, domains, users, and block the rest. Put a hardware firewall on it too!

10-04-2008, 11:42 PM	#9
stevo Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 2,051	That shit happens to me all the time... I'm tired of the thousands of "Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender" email that i receive from those spoofing my email accounts.

10-04-2008, 11:47 PM	#10
CunningStunt Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,594	I've never set up one email address on their server, that's the funny thing (if there is anything funny about this). I know it's easy to spoof someone's email address, but for the fucking host to just ditch the domains, that's really fucked. Sorry, torrets syndrome kicking in. DON'T DO BUSINESS WITH EXTREME-HOSTING.NET / HOST-HQ.COM

10-05-2008, 12:41 AM	#12
CunningStunt Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,594	lmfao d-null, I needed that. Transferred the best performing of 10 sites on that host away just now, 9 more to go. Cruddy way to finish a previously chilled Sunday.

10-05-2008, 01:09 AM	#14
CunningStunt Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,594	Unprofessional is absolutely correct. I signed up with them and another 4 hosts for a project 3 years ago, and this is the first problem I've had with them. To pull the plug on sites just like that is unbelievable. I'm going to find some software out there to send out 10 million emails for "hosting services" with [email protected] as the reply address, see how they like it

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10-05-2008, 08:40 AM	#19
Antonio Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Spartaaaaaaaaa Posts: 14,136	it's your host that fucked you up, it takes them 2 seconds to realize that it's not you sending the mails but rather some guy using forged headers, so why did they suspend your domains then?????

10-05-2008, 08:47 AM	#20
BlackCrayon Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Ottawa Posts: 19,631	I'm amazed that hosts do this. Its just way too easy for domains to be spoofed. They are stupid and should compensate you. __________________ you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

10-05-2008, 02:10 PM	#23
CunningStunt Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,594	I'm not convinced that having different C class IP's is enough these days baddog. I could be wrong. Having 300 sites on 15 different hosts guarantees me totally different IP addresses.

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10-05-2008, 02:28 PM	#27
CunningStunt Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,594	Cool, thanks baddog. I'll hit you up next time I need some hosting.

10-05-2008, 04:05 PM	#29
sortie Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,771	Seems like the host could have checked your sendmail logs to see that there was no spam going out. __________________

10-05-2008, 04:06 PM	#30
Manowar jellyfish Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 71,528	I dont think any hosts would can you for being jojobbed

10-05-2008, 04:13 PM	#31
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10-05-2008, 09:11 PM	#33
brandonstills Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Chatsworth, CA Posts: 1,964	There's something that you can add to your zone file that is supposed to authenticate your emails as being the actual sending. It lets other hosts know if the emails they are getting are actually from the source. I forget what the record was called (not MX). __________________ Brandon Stills Industry and programming veteran [email protected] \| skype: brandonstills \| ICQ #495-171-318

10-06-2008, 05:06 AM	#34
TeenCat Too lazy to set a koala Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: CZ/EU forever! Posts: 16,139	one of my hosting is dreamhost and i am receiving emails from my personal addy, and i am selling to myself swatches and pills and similar crap daily. its really that easy to spoof and use someones email addy? if yes it looks like nice security bug __________________ 6bot / Coming again very soon! Svit Zlin Radio 24/7!

10-06-2008, 09:33 AM	#36
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