The Alpha Red thread, a *MUST* read.

[Wiredoctor]

Originally Posted by Rodent

Shhhhhh the oracle said such pricing is not possible

Oh it is possible, it's just not profitable for the long haul. History will repeat itself, it always does.

[Snake Doctor]

Originally Posted by Wiredoctor

Oh it is possible, it's just not profitable for the long haul. History will repeat itself, it always does.

Maybe so, and maybe the host I'm getting $4/mbit from will go out of business in 6 months or a year....but as long as you have an offsite backup with a service like Clonebox, you won't have any downtime.

In the meantime my hosting bill is 1/2 to 1/3 what it would be if I hosted with one of those "other guys".

[HorseShit]

Originally Posted by SpeakEasy

Look who is clueless now... I told you you were an Idiot, you should have believed me last week.

What the fuck are you talking about? They aren't going anywhere. Who's clueless?

[The Nerd]

Originally Posted by Snake Doctor

Maybe so, and maybe the host I'm getting $4/mbit from will go out of business in 6 months or a year....but as long as you have an offsite backup with a service like Clonebox, you won't have any downtime.

In the meantime my hosting bill is 1/2 to 1/3 what it would be if I hosted with one of those "other guys".

You sound like one of those people that jumps from one bottom of the barrel cheap host to another just for a buck or two. Like someone that goes from choopa to reflected all within a few months. But hey your right you pay less for hosting than most
of the people here and I'm sure you need that savings as without it you probably don't make a penny. Most of the people that are serious about their businesses and making money don't waste their time playing the host shuffle game as they are busy making good money and building their empires. As that Brad guy said if you need to pay 3-5 bucks a meg to survive then your fucked anyway.

No need to reply as it doesn't really matter to me what you do, because deep inside it's only you that knows if you make money from running a good profitable biz or just survive by being a penny pincher and once these bottom feeder hosts go away so does your biz and you never learned to make any real money and couldn't even afford a real host.

[Snake Doctor]

Originally Posted by The Nerd

You sound like one of those people that jumps from one bottom of the barrel cheap host to another just for a buck or two. Like someone that goes from choopa to reflected all within a few months. But hey your right you pay less for hosting than most
of the people here and I'm sure you need that savings as without it you probably don't make a penny. Most of the people that are serious about their businesses and making money don't waste their time playing the host shuffle game as they are busy making good money and building their empires. As that Brad guy said if you need to pay 3-5 bucks a meg to survive then your fucked anyway.

No need to reply as it doesn't really matter to me what you do, because deep inside it's only you that knows if you make money from running a good profitable biz or just survive by being a penny pincher and once these bottom feeder hosts go away so does your biz and you never learned to make any real money and couldn't even afford a real host.

Yes you must be right.

Good businessmen don't waste their time controlling expenses, they're too busy counting their money.

[k0nr4d]

I would agree with most people moving to other cheap hosts. It's not like you have some kind of prestige by paying $20/mbit. Frankly I just did a test with one of the hosts I know, and I actually get higher speeds from cogent then most other networks. Nothing is wrong with cheap hosts, and if you factor in people that push a lot of bandwidth, even a dollar per mbit cheaper is a huge difference.

Say you are pushing 5gbits at $5/gbit. Your hosting bill is $25.000. If someone offers you $4/mbit you just put $5k back into your pocket every month. That's more then enough to pay a mortgage or finance and very nice car.

[Matyko]

KUDOS

[Snake Doctor]

Originally Posted by k0nr4d

I would agree with most people moving to other cheap hosts. It's not like you have some kind of prestige by paying $20/mbit. Frankly I just did a test with one of the hosts I know, and I actually get higher speeds from cogent then most other networks. Nothing is wrong with cheap hosts, and if you factor in people that push a lot of bandwidth, even a dollar per mbit cheaper is a huge difference.

Say you are pushing 5gbits at $5/gbit. Your hosting bill is $25.000. If someone offers you $4/mbit you just put $5k back into your pocket every month. That's more then enough to pay a mortgage or finance and very nice car.

Oh noes, because according to "The Nerd" you have to have an expensive host and learn how to run a profitable biz without using a "bottom feeder" host or else you haven't learned how to make "real money"

[seven]

Originally Posted by k0nr4d

I would agree with most people moving to other cheap hosts. It's not like you have some kind of prestige by paying $20/mbit. Frankly I just did a test with one of the hosts I know, and I actually get higher speeds from cogent then most other networks. Nothing is wrong with cheap hosts, and if you factor in people that push a lot of bandwidth, even a dollar per mbit cheaper is a huge difference.

Say you are pushing 5gbits at $5/gbit. Your hosting bill is $25.000. If someone offers you $4/mbit you just put $5k back into your pocket every month. That's more then enough to pay a mortgage or finance and very nice car.

dude! I agree with you, now please suggest a cheap hosting to me.. maybe over ICQ if you want: 119451009.. thanks for the help!

[bigslim]

Originally Posted by Snake Doctor

Maybe so, and maybe the host I'm getting $4/mbit from will go out of business in 6 months or a year....but as long as you have an offsite backup with a service like Clonebox, you won't have any downtime.

In the meantime my hosting bill is 1/2 to 1/3 what it would be if I hosted with one of those "other guys".

who do you use for hosting?