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k0nr4d 10-04-2008 03:39 AM
so what, US citizens have to pay income tax twice? Once to USA, once to the country they are in?

dav3 10-04-2008 03:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Indecisive (Post 14852419)
"As a U.S. citizen or resident alien, your worldwide income generally is subject to U.S. income tax, regardless of where you are living. Also, you are subject to the same income tax filing requirements that apply to U.S. citizens or resident aliens living in the United States."

irs dot gov, Publication 54 (2007), Tax Guide for U.S. Citizens and Resident Aliens Abroad
From spreading HIV in Thailand to all Americans getting anally raped by taxes, this thread delivers. :Oh crap

Jens Van Assterdam 10-04-2008 03:43 AM
So whats the deal with the HIV bus now? They are caught?

Zango 10-04-2008 03:48 AM
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Originally Posted by kmanrox (Post 14852929)
actually its my understanding that you pay taxes on anything over 80k, i could be wrong though
That would be the little break he speaks of I think. But you have to file for that status, it's not just given to you. You have to show you are living abroad for X amount of time and earning foreign income. Then I think it's a 82k break.

Zango 10-04-2008 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by RayBonga (Post 14852968)
What happens if you don't pay? They send the army after you?
There could come a day when you have to renew your passport...

Now you get fined $500 if you refuse to put your social security number on your passport application. But it's also up to them to not give it to you if you don't provide it.

Zango 10-04-2008 03:53 AM
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Originally Posted by RedShoe (Post 14852951)
Even if you become a citizen of the new country you move to? Can't you become a Sovereign American Citizen?
Most countries have a double tax treaty so you don't get totally fucked. For example, if you now live and pay tax in Brazil, you can deduct that amount from what you owe the USA. But you still have to file to the USA and pay if the other deduction is not enough.

Bottom like for Americans, Uncle Sam owns you. :Oh crap

The best thing you can do is get very, very creative about how you file.

faxxaff 10-04-2008 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Zango (Post 14852981)
Most countries have a double tax treaty so you don't get totally fucked. For example, if you now live and pay tax in Brazil, you can deduct that amount from what you owe the USA. But you still have to file to the USA and pay if the other deduction is not enough.

Bottom like for Americans, Uncle Sam owns you. :Oh crap

The best thing you can do is get very, very creative about how you file.
It's pretty easy to get rid off of this tax issue if you live abroad: Give up your US American citizenship. A lot of rich Americans have done this in the past.

Ethersync 10-04-2008 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 14844476)
You also have to pay taxes to the US government if you no longer live in the USA. Even if you move out tomorrow and never return a day in your life, Uncle Sam requires you to still pay income tax on any foreign income you may earn.

Of course there are loop holes and they give you a little break if you can prove you earn foreign income, but flat out the USA owns it's people. Slaves, all of us.
It's not quite how you describe it. If you reside overseas you are not taxed on your first $80,000 of income. If you make more than $80,000 while overseas it becomes a bit more complex. You do still have to file tax returns each year, but I believe you are automatically given til October 15th to file for the previous year.

Ethersync 10-04-2008 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by faxxaff (Post 14853419)
It's pretty easy to get rid off of this tax issue if you live abroad: Give up your US American citizenship. A lot of rich Americans have done this in the past.
There are other ways that do not require such drastic means. Again, it's only necessary if you make over $80,000 per year and I doubt the majority of the people who frequent this forum do ;)

Ethersync 10-04-2008 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 14852970)
so what, US citizens have to pay income tax twice? Once to USA, once to the country they are in?
If you are smart about things you do not have to pay income tax at all to anyone if you make less than $80,000 per year. Legally too.

brassmonkey 10-04-2008 09:27 AM
damn well theyll have a painful death thats bad

Ethersync 10-04-2008 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Zango (Post 14852977)
That would be the little break he speaks of I think. But you have to file for that status, it's not just given to you. You have to show you are living abroad for X amount of time and earning foreign income. Then I think it's a 82k break.
File for this status? :1orglaugh It's very simple to do actually. I have done it myself and have many friends that do it every year. I don't know how it could be easier actually.

Ethersync 10-04-2008 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 14844469)
US law applies to all US citizens where ever they are in the world, in addition to the local laws of the area you are in.
US Federal law? State and if so which state?

If you steal something in London and flea back to the US you only risk extradition back to Great Britain. You will not be charged with theft in the US for what you stole in London. The US has no jurisdiction in such matters.

The only exception I am aware of is if you travel to another country for the sole purpose of having sex with a minor. Then you could possibly face charges in the US. This was passed during the Bush administration so it's fairly new and never has been challenged. I do not think this would stand up if reviewed by the Supreme Court.

:2 cents:

JustDaveXxx 10-04-2008 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by bobby666 (Post 14841430)
i really can't belief that, and i still hope the story isn't real
That cant be real... They have a lot of rules when they shoot. Their sex scenes are not even aggressive. The owner will fire anybody that crossed the line.


I will put money on that is not true. and if it is, its not Bang.

Agent 488 10-04-2008 10:31 AM
i think it's a snuff video made for private collectors.

Fucksakes 10-04-2008 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx (Post 14853670)
That cant be real... They have a lot of rules when they shoot. Their sex scenes are not even aggressive. The owner will fire anybody that crossed the line.


I will put money on that is not true. and if it is, its not Bang.
might want to read the whole thread before commenting

johnuno11 10-04-2008 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 14841471)
are you sure its not staged?

anyway, if they are US citizens, they are guilty of accessory before the fact to commit manslaughter...

people think that just because you are out of your home country, that your country of origin laws dont apply...

as a US citizen, you can be charged in the US for a crime committed outside of the US..
And you will get charged with the laws in that country as well!

Zango 10-04-2008 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Ethersync (Post 14853484)
It's not quite how you describe it. If you reside overseas you are not taxed on your first $80,000 of income. If you make more than $80,000 while overseas it becomes a bit more complex. You do still have to file tax returns each year, but I believe you are automatically given til October 15th to file for the previous year.
I think what he was saying is the same.

Though you have to file for that status and be earning FOREIGN INCOME. That is the trick. You can't just simply live abroad and get the tax break.

Though if you earn more than that allowed amount, I think is 82k now, you will be taxed on income above that, and you get the break on the first 82k. But you do have to file in that manner, live and earn foreign income for almost a year to qualify. It's not just a given.

marketsmart 10-04-2008 11:04 AM
the last i lived out of country, a little over a year ago, it was $80k tax free and you had to be outside of the US for 300 or 340 days.. i cant remember....

DWB 10-04-2008 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Ethersync (Post 14853484)
It's not quite how you describe it. If you reside overseas you are not taxed on your first $80,000 of income. If you make more than $80,000 while overseas it becomes a bit more complex. You do still have to file tax returns each year, but I believe you are automatically given til October 15th to file for the previous year.
The foreign income tax exclusion.

We are on the same page. :thumbsup

The limit is now: $85,700

The time you must be abroad: 330 full days during any period of 12 consecutive months

Very easy to do so long as you meet the requirements of the IRS. But I think you know that. :winkwink:

Ethersync 10-04-2008 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Zango (Post 14853729)
I think what he was saying is the same.

Though you have to file for that status and be earning FOREIGN INCOME. That is the trick. You can't just simply live abroad and get the tax break.

Though if you earn more than that allowed amount, I think is 82k now, you will be taxed on income above that, and you get the break on the first 82k. But you do have to file in that manner, live and earn foreign income for almost a year to qualify. It's not just a given.
"Foreign Income" is easy to have if you technically are an employee of a foreign company. Where this company gets their income matters not...

DWB 10-04-2008 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Ethersync (Post 14853769)
"Foreign Income" is easy to have if you technically are an employee of a foreign company. Where this company gets their income matters not...
Exactly.

This thread has gone from HIV+ porn producing dirt bags to tax tips. Gotta love GFY. :thumbsup

Holy cow, my next post is 13k. Gotta whip up some good pics to post. BBL...

buzzy 10-04-2008 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Davey Jones (Post 14841504)
BangBus film in Thailand?
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

tahiti 10-15-2008 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 14841421)
50 years in thai prison sound appropriate. how low can people go, unbelievable
50 years in thai prison , you don't survive 1 year man!

DWB 10-15-2008 02:10 AM
UPDATE:

Oddly, these guys have not been seen since this post.

I can only assume it's someone who posts here or is friends of someone who posts here or one of the other boards I posted on.

tahiti 10-15-2008 02:14 AM
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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 14841413)
So there is a crew of fucks who have a van and are shooting in Pattaya, Thailand. They get the girls in the van and explain to them that the Thai male performer has HIV and the scene is non-condom. They can take the job or leave it. If the girls need the money, they film it. If not, they let the girl out and go find another girl.

Listen you fucks... I've already got a bead on you and your van. Lots of info already. I'm going to pull every resource I have to make sure you go down in flames and have no chance of bail when they arrest you. A few Thais have already reported you and I'm on the phone come morning to the head of the Crime Suppression Unit. Your days are numbered.

Of all the low down dirty things I have ever seen in my life, this just about hits rock bottom.
check my sig contact me, we'll solve the case quickly

umbralui 10-15-2008 02:33 AM
sit and wonder .. but if she has HIV and accept to have sex with one who does not use a condom and that may have can not? these people are not of sound mind .. terrible :(

Pleasurepays 10-15-2008 03:41 AM
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Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 14852970)
so what, US citizens have to pay income tax twice? Once to USA, once to the country they are in?
not really. there are double taxation treaties with many countries. basically, you have to prove you paid taxes somewhere that has an agreement with the US, or you may have to pay taxes where you are claiming residence and in the US

DWB 10-15-2008 03:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 14899713)
not really. there are double taxation treaties with many countries. basically, you have to prove you paid taxes somewhere that has an agreement with the US, or you may have to pay taxes where you are claiming residence and in the US
This is correct. Many countries have tax treaties so you don't get double fucked.


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