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dirtysouth · 10-02-2008, 07:37 AM

Ranks right up there with frying 70+ loads of cum and making some chick eat it all.

kichi · 10-02-2008, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart

are you sure its not staged?

anyway, if they are US citizens, they are guilty of accessory before the fact to commit manslaughter...

people think that just because you are out of your home country, that your country of origin laws dont apply...

as a US citizen, you can be charged in the US for a crime committed outside of the US..

can you show me some documentation proving this please? You mean to tell me if i commit a crime in Nicaragua, on their soil, I can come back to the usa and get prosecuted?

DWB · 10-02-2008, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by kichi

can you show me some documentation proving this please? You mean to tell me if i commit a crime in Nicaragua, on their soil, I can come back to the usa and get prosecuted?

That is correct. If you travel abroad you should know this already.

However, the USA is not alerted of all crimes Americans commit overseas. Though if they catch wind of it by that country or the US Embassy in that country, you could very well have to deal with the US system upon your return. I've known a few guys to get fucked up this way.

US law applies to all US citizens where ever they are in the world, in addition to the local laws of the area you are in.

Again, I'm blown away so many Americans are dumb to this. Do you think you can just leave your country and all bets are off? No wonder so many Americans act like fools abroad.

MediaManiac · 10-02-2008, 08:11 AM

this is sick.. keep us updated about it.

DWB · 10-02-2008, 08:13 AM

You also have to pay taxes to the US government if you no longer live in the USA. Even if you move out tomorrow and never return a day in your life, Uncle Sam requires you to still pay income tax on any foreign income you may earn.

Of course there are loop holes and they give you a little break if you can prove you earn foreign income, but flat out the USA owns it's people. Slaves, all of us.

kichi · 10-02-2008, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

You also have to pay taxes to the US government if you no longer live in the USA. Even if you move out tomorrow and never return a day in your life, Uncle Sam requires you to still pay income tax on any foreign income you may earn.

Of course there are loop holes and they give you a little break if you can prove you earn foreign income, but flat out the USA owns it's people. Slaves, all of us.

I am not disagreeing with you. I just want to see some documentation proving this. I cant seem to find it.

beemk · 10-02-2008, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

Because I know one of the girls they tried to shoot. When she refused they slowed down a little and threw her out of the moving van onto the road. All on cam I'm sure.

wow thats ruthless

The Duck · 10-02-2008, 09:18 AM

Some are just monsters.

Elli · 10-02-2008, 09:58 AM

Just awful

I read this thread yesterday and have been thinking about it a lot. I'm not sure if someone else mentioned it, but I had a terrible thought last night.

What if the girl says yes because she knows she's HIV+ but the guy doesn't actually have HIV because it was just a shock/scare value thing?

DWB · 10-02-2008, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Elli

Just awful

I read this thread yesterday and have been thinking about it a lot. I'm not sure if someone else mentioned it, but I had a terrible thought last night.

What if the girl says yes because she knows she's HIV+ but the guy doesn't actually have HIV because it was just a shock/scare value thing?

That's the point. It's a lose / lose no matter what. It's sick to play either side of it like that. Either the girl gets exposed to it, or maybe the male talent does. Who knows?

Exsillio · 10-02-2008, 11:12 AM

Wow this is sick shit

. Hope that they will find him soon.

JamesK · 10-02-2008, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Elli

Just awful

I read this thread yesterday and have been thinking about it a lot. I'm not sure if someone else mentioned it, but I had a terrible thought last night.

What if the girl says yes because she knows she's HIV+ but the guy doesn't actually have HIV because it was just a shock/scare value thing?

I also heard you can get infected multiple times. So if you already have HIV, you can get reinfected. I'm not sure how bad this could get but it doesn't sound healthy.

mrxxl · 10-02-2008, 01:15 PM

Fake or real, this is totally sick!

onlytease · 10-02-2008, 01:27 PM

if this is true then that is really fucked up and they deserve to rot for ever in jail as someones bitch!

DWB · 10-02-2008, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by JamesK

I also heard you can get infected multiple times. So if you already have HIV, you can get reinfected. I'm not sure how bad this could get but it doesn't sound healthy.

What happens is you can get multiple strains which means you die faster.

Do you remember that guy in New York a few years ago with "Super Aids" and died really fast? That's what happened. He already had one strain of HIV and then picked up another strain and it killed him in like 2 years.

There are many strains around the world, they list them by letters.

AnniKN · 10-03-2008, 09:23 PM

Bump for justice!

Indecisive · 10-03-2008, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by kichi

I am not disagreeing with you. I just want to see some documentation proving this. I cant seem to find it.

"As a U.S. citizen or resident alien, your worldwide income generally is subject to U.S. income tax, regardless of where you are living. Also, you are subject to the same income tax filing requirements that apply to U.S. citizens or resident aliens living in the United States."

irs dot gov, Publication 54 (2007), Tax Guide for U.S. Citizens and Resident Aliens Abroad

kmanrox · 10-04-2008, 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

You also have to pay taxes to the US government if you no longer live in the USA. Even if you move out tomorrow and never return a day in your life, Uncle Sam requires you to still pay income tax on any foreign income you may earn.

Of course there are loop holes and they give you a little break if you can prove you earn foreign income, but flat out the USA owns it's people. Slaves, all of us.

actually its my understanding that you pay taxes on anything over 80k, i could be wrong though

RedShoe · 10-04-2008, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

You also have to pay taxes to the US government if you no longer live in the USA. Even if you move out tomorrow and never return a day in your life, Uncle Sam requires you to still pay income tax on any foreign income you may earn.

Of course there are loop holes and they give you a little break if you can prove you earn foreign income, but flat out the USA owns it's people. Slaves, all of us.

Even if you become a citizen of the new country you move to? Can't you become a Sovereign American Citizen?

RayBonga · 10-04-2008, 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

You also have to pay taxes to the US government if you no longer live in the USA. Even if you move out tomorrow and never return a day in your life, Uncle Sam requires you to still pay income tax on any foreign income you may earn.

Of course there are loop holes and they give you a little break if you can prove you earn foreign income, but flat out the USA owns it's people. Slaves, all of us.

What happens if you don't pay? They send the army after you?

k0nr4d · 10-04-2008, 03:39 AM

so what, US citizens have to pay income tax twice? Once to USA, once to the country they are in?

dav3 · 10-04-2008, 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Indecisive

"As a U.S. citizen or resident alien, your worldwide income generally is subject to U.S. income tax, regardless of where you are living. Also, you are subject to the same income tax filing requirements that apply to U.S. citizens or resident aliens living in the United States."

irs dot gov, Publication 54 (2007), Tax Guide for U.S. Citizens and Resident Aliens Abroad

From spreading HIV in Thailand to all Americans getting anally raped by taxes, this thread delivers.

Jens Van Assterdam · 10-04-2008, 03:43 AM

So whats the deal with the HIV bus now? They are caught?

Zango · 10-04-2008, 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by kmanrox

actually its my understanding that you pay taxes on anything over 80k, i could be wrong though

That would be the little break he speaks of I think. But you have to file for that status, it's not just given to you. You have to show you are living abroad for X amount of time and earning foreign income. Then I think it's a 82k break.

Zango · 10-04-2008, 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by RayBonga

What happens if you don't pay? They send the army after you?

There could come a day when you have to renew your passport...

Now you get fined $500 if you refuse to put your social security number on your passport application. But it's also up to them to not give it to you if you don't provide it.

Zango · 10-04-2008, 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by RedShoe

Even if you become a citizen of the new country you move to? Can't you become a Sovereign American Citizen?

Most countries have a double tax treaty so you don't get totally fucked. For example, if you now live and pay tax in Brazil, you can deduct that amount from what you owe the USA. But you still have to file to the USA and pay if the other deduction is not enough.

Bottom like for Americans, Uncle Sam owns you.

The best thing you can do is get very, very creative about how you file.

faxxaff · 10-04-2008, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Zango

Most countries have a double tax treaty so you don't get totally fucked. For example, if you now live and pay tax in Brazil, you can deduct that amount from what you owe the USA. But you still have to file to the USA and pay if the other deduction is not enough.

Bottom like for Americans, Uncle Sam owns you.

The best thing you can do is get very, very creative about how you file.

It's pretty easy to get rid off of this tax issue if you live abroad: Give up your US American citizenship. A lot of rich Americans have done this in the past.

Ethersync · 10-04-2008, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

You also have to pay taxes to the US government if you no longer live in the USA. Even if you move out tomorrow and never return a day in your life, Uncle Sam requires you to still pay income tax on any foreign income you may earn.

Of course there are loop holes and they give you a little break if you can prove you earn foreign income, but flat out the USA owns it's people. Slaves, all of us.

It's not quite how you describe it. If you reside overseas you are not taxed on your first $80,000 of income. If you make more than $80,000 while overseas it becomes a bit more complex. You do still have to file tax returns each year, but I believe you are automatically given til October 15th to file for the previous year.

Ethersync · 10-04-2008, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by faxxaff

It's pretty easy to get rid off of this tax issue if you live abroad: Give up your US American citizenship. A lot of rich Americans have done this in the past.

There are other ways that do not require such drastic means. Again, it's only necessary if you make over $80,000 per year and I doubt the majority of the people who frequent this forum do ;)

Ethersync · 10-04-2008, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d

so what, US citizens have to pay income tax twice? Once to USA, once to the country they are in?

If you are smart about things you do not have to pay income tax at all to anyone if you make less than $80,000 per year. Legally too.

brassmonkey · 10-04-2008, 09:27 AM

damn well theyll have a painful death thats bad

Ethersync · 10-04-2008, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Zango

That would be the little break he speaks of I think. But you have to file for that status, it's not just given to you. You have to show you are living abroad for X amount of time and earning foreign income. Then I think it's a 82k break.

File for this status?

It's very simple to do actually. I have done it myself and have many friends that do it every year. I don't know how it could be easier actually.

Ethersync · 10-04-2008, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

US law applies to all US citizens where ever they are in the world, in addition to the local laws of the area you are in.

US Federal law? State and if so which state?

If you steal something in London and flea back to the US you only risk extradition back to Great Britain. You will not be charged with theft in the US for what you stole in London. The US has no jurisdiction in such matters.

The only exception I am aware of is if you travel to another country for the sole purpose of having sex with a minor. Then you could possibly face charges in the US. This was passed during the Bush administration so it's fairly new and never has been challenged. I do not think this would stand up if reviewed by the Supreme Court.

JustDaveXxx · 10-04-2008, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by bobby666

i really can't belief that, and i still hope the story isn't real

That cant be real... They have a lot of rules when they shoot. Their sex scenes are not even aggressive. The owner will fire anybody that crossed the line.

I will put money on that is not true. and if it is, its not Bang.

Agent 488 · 10-04-2008, 10:31 AM

i think it's a snuff video made for private collectors.

Fucksakes · 10-04-2008, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx

That cant be real... They have a lot of rules when they shoot. Their sex scenes are not even aggressive. The owner will fire anybody that crossed the line.

I will put money on that is not true. and if it is, its not Bang.

might want to read the whole thread before commenting

johnuno11 · 10-04-2008, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart

are you sure its not staged?

anyway, if they are US citizens, they are guilty of accessory before the fact to commit manslaughter...

people think that just because you are out of your home country, that your country of origin laws dont apply...

as a US citizen, you can be charged in the US for a crime committed outside of the US..

And you will get charged with the laws in that country as well!

Zango · 10-04-2008, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Ethersync

It's not quite how you describe it. If you reside overseas you are not taxed on your first $80,000 of income. If you make more than $80,000 while overseas it becomes a bit more complex. You do still have to file tax returns each year, but I believe you are automatically given til October 15th to file for the previous year.

I think what he was saying is the same.

Though you have to file for that status and be earning FOREIGN INCOME. That is the trick. You can't just simply live abroad and get the tax break.

Though if you earn more than that allowed amount, I think is 82k now, you will be taxed on income above that, and you get the break on the first 82k. But you do have to file in that manner, live and earn foreign income for almost a year to qualify. It's not just a given.

marketsmart · 10-04-2008, 11:04 AM

the last i lived out of country, a little over a year ago, it was $80k tax free and you had to be outside of the US for 300 or 340 days.. i cant remember....

DWB · 10-04-2008, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Ethersync

It's not quite how you describe it. If you reside overseas you are not taxed on your first $80,000 of income. If you make more than $80,000 while overseas it becomes a bit more complex. You do still have to file tax returns each year, but I believe you are automatically given til October 15th to file for the previous year.

The foreign income tax exclusion.

We are on the same page.

The limit is now: $85,700

The time you must be abroad: 330 full days during any period of 12 consecutive months

Very easy to do so long as you meet the requirements of the IRS. But I think you know that.

Ethersync · 10-04-2008, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Zango

I think what he was saying is the same.

Though you have to file for that status and be earning FOREIGN INCOME. That is the trick. You can't just simply live abroad and get the tax break.

Though if you earn more than that allowed amount, I think is 82k now, you will be taxed on income above that, and you get the break on the first 82k. But you do have to file in that manner, live and earn foreign income for almost a year to qualify. It's not just a given.

"Foreign Income" is easy to have if you technically are an employee of a foreign company. Where this company gets their income matters not...

DWB · 10-04-2008, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Ethersync

"Foreign Income" is easy to have if you technically are an employee of a foreign company. Where this company gets their income matters not...

Exactly.

This thread has gone from HIV+ porn producing dirt bags to tax tips. Gotta love GFY.

Holy cow, my next post is 13k. Gotta whip up some good pics to post. BBL...

buzzy · 10-04-2008, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Davey Jones

BangBus film in Thailand?

tahiti · 10-15-2008, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

50 years in thai prison sound appropriate. how low can people go, unbelievable

50 years in thai prison , you don't survive 1 year man!

DWB · 10-15-2008, 02:10 AM

UPDATE:

Oddly, these guys have not been seen since this post.

I can only assume it's someone who posts here or is friends of someone who posts here or one of the other boards I posted on.

tahiti · 10-15-2008, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

So there is a crew of fucks who have a van and are shooting in Pattaya, Thailand. They get the girls in the van and explain to them that the Thai male performer has HIV and the scene is non-condom. They can take the job or leave it. If the girls need the money, they film it. If not, they let the girl out and go find another girl.

Listen you fucks... I've already got a bead on you and your van. Lots of info already. I'm going to pull every resource I have to make sure you go down in flames and have no chance of bail when they arrest you. A few Thais have already reported you and I'm on the phone come morning to the head of the Crime Suppression Unit. Your days are numbered.

Of all the low down dirty things I have ever seen in my life, this just about hits rock bottom.

check my sig contact me, we'll solve the case quickly

umbralui · 10-15-2008, 02:33 AM

sit and wonder .. but if she has HIV and accept to have sex with one who does not use a condom and that may have can not? these people are not of sound mind .. terrible

Pleasurepays · 10-15-2008, 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d

so what, US citizens have to pay income tax twice? Once to USA, once to the country they are in?

not really. there are double taxation treaties with many countries. basically, you have to prove you paid taxes somewhere that has an agreement with the US, or you may have to pay taxes where you are claiming residence and in the US

DWB · 10-15-2008, 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

not really. there are double taxation treaties with many countries. basically, you have to prove you paid taxes somewhere that has an agreement with the US, or you may have to pay taxes where you are claiming residence and in the US

This is correct. Many countries have tax treaties so you don't get double fucked.

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