What kind of income do you feel means you're successful? - GoFuckYourself.com

SleazyDream · 10-31-2002, 11:51 AM

Money makes the world go round - curious as to how much net taxable annual income is enough for you folks to be successful in this or any business.

TDF · 10-31-2002, 11:55 AM

anything more than what I was making before I quit mainstream work

sherbert · 10-31-2002, 11:56 AM

nice option 5 you've got there, sleazy. ever worked for enron?

option 5 = trick option?

DjSap · 10-31-2002, 11:57 AM

i would say 100k...but thats in sweden, our lawyers barerly make 60k...

i'll be succesfull when i'm making enough money to employ other people to do everything so that i can travel all the time...

SleazyDream · 10-31-2002, 11:57 AM

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Originally posted by sherbert
option 5 = trick option?

there was a slight variation in the value of the us doller on the world curency market in the time it took to type option 4 and option 5.

boneprone · 10-31-2002, 12:00 PM

100,000 to 4 million??

Thats a large range!!!

I think you mean 100,000 to 400,000 dont you?

Anyhow thats what i picked.

quiet · 10-31-2002, 12:03 PM

mmmmoney - so tasty

JohnnyRebel · 10-31-2002, 12:04 PM

Whatever makes you happy...

Warphead · 10-31-2002, 12:06 PM

I think instead of saying raw income you need to compare to real spending power (due to differences in region, a couple hundred bucks is a lot of money someplaces).

I thought I was successful as hell when I was making more than I would at a minimum-wage job. Then I thought I was successful again when I quit college to do this full-time.

I think someone's successful when they pay all their bills and have some wasting money left over, in other words I'm always just a little shy of success.

Fletch XXX · 10-31-2002, 12:15 PM

I don't measure success by income.

You are not what you own.

Ross · 10-31-2002, 12:16 PM

Who says your successful by the amount of money you earn?

You could be successful at other things, you could have a nice family and decent house and car wuth just a normal job bringing in about $30,000 per year!!

But then again you could have millions in the bank and be the biggest asshole in the world, does that mean your successful??

To be successful in life all I want is to always have a job making money and be happy

LOL but a few million would come in handy

TDF · 10-31-2002, 12:17 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX
I don't measure success by income.

You are not what you own.

zing! truth has spoken

Hustlin Entertainment · 10-31-2002, 12:17 PM

1 billion

Brown Bear · 10-31-2002, 12:17 PM

My basis for success is the amount of money that someone has in assets, not just what they make in a year.

Assets are what count, because your cashflow could end tomorrow.

Cheshire · 10-31-2002, 12:20 PM

The amount it takes to pay all my bills monthly, and have enough left over to go out once a week and wear nice clothing most of the time.

Is that too much to ask?

Techie Media · 10-31-2002, 12:22 PM

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Originally posted by Brown Bear
My basis for success is the amount of money that someone has in assets, not just what they make in a year.

Assets are what count, because your cashflow could end tomorrow.

I would tend to agree with you on this one. Cash flow can end at anytime, what counts is how well you are going to be with no cash flow?....and to clairify I'm talking about working for cash flow. Cash flow from investments and other ventures gets added to the How well you will be side of the coin

Assets baby, thats what counts

rdunn404 · 10-31-2002, 12:26 PM

- Tyler Durden: You're not your job. You're not how much money you have in the bank. You're not the car you drive. You're not the contents of your wallet. You're not your fucking khakis. You're the all-singing, all-dancing crap of the world.

SleazyDream · 10-31-2002, 12:26 PM

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Originally posted by Cheshire
The amount it takes to pay all my bills monthly, and have enough left over to go out once a week and wear nice clothing most of the time.

Is that too much to ask?

that's not money - that a sugar daddy you're looking for.

quiet · 10-31-2002, 12:27 PM

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Originally posted by rdunn404
- Tyler Durden: You're not your job. You're not how much money you have in the bank. You're not the car you drive. You're not the contents of your wallet. You're not your fucking khakis. You're the all-singing, all-dancing crap of the world.

word

SleazyDream · 10-31-2002, 12:28 PM

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Originally posted by Ross
Who says your successful by the amount of money you earn?
..........you could have millions in the bank and be the biggest asshole in the world, does that mean your successful??

yes it does.

DjSap · 10-31-2002, 12:28 PM

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Originally posted by toodamnfli

zing! truth has spoken

its not the truth...the weed has spoken...

sweetcuties · 10-31-2002, 12:28 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream

that's not money - that a sugar daddy you're looking for.

Fletch XXX · 10-31-2002, 12:29 PM

merchandise

"when we have nothing left to give
there will be no reason for us to live
but when we have nothing left to lose
you will have nothing left to use

we owe you nothing
you have no control

merchandise keeps us in line
common sense says it's by design
what could a businessman ever want more
than to have us sucking in his store

we owe you nothing
you have no control

you are not what you own
you are not what you own
you are not what you own
you are not what you own"

Ian MacKaye

pipp · 10-31-2002, 12:36 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX

you are not what you own

That's what broke people say

bauhaus · 10-31-2002, 12:37 PM

it has to be based on geography as well.....as some people are pointing out.

Not to point figures ( I know you do very well ) but a US dollar goes remarkably far in manitoba....compare that to a webmaster in NYC and you are talking apples to fuckin diamonds.

Cause for example $100k US almost anywhere in canada is a pretty damn sweet life (I live in Toronto by the way, so this is not a slam canada thing) $100k US in NYC is not really that hot....I mean you are not at all living large. In manitoba you could basically buy up half a town (this is not finger pointing but a simple fact)

In reality I think Sleazy in terms of assets - if that was the factor might beat out guys making triple what he does because of 'geography'.....Canadians do very well off of USD based e-commerce.

Jakke PNG · 10-31-2002, 12:38 PM

Hmm.. a tough one.
I'd say I make enough money when I can live as I please, and still bank 50% of my profits. Dunno how much that is.

Bobo · 10-31-2002, 12:39 PM

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Originally posted by Ross
Who says your successful by the amount of money you earn?
you could have millions in the bank and be the biggest asshole in the world, does that mean your successful??

Blahblahblah If I could make $400,000 tax free a year I'd be happy and relatively successfull.

bauhaus · 10-31-2002, 12:39 PM

YES YES I know you don't make only 100k US...it was a figure used as a gauging point.

For those not familiar with our dollars worth.....100k is almost 160k cdn.....and things are the same price here (usually less)

DrGuile · 10-31-2002, 12:40 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX
I don't measure success by income.

You are not what you own.

True,

SleazyDream is what he eats ;p

TDF · 10-31-2002, 12:43 PM

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Originally posted by DrGuile

True,

SleazyDream is what he eats ;p

haha...as long as im living comfortably,have money to put other people on, and eventually retire and be a motivational speaker then im happy..

Just the Village Idiot · 10-31-2002, 12:49 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX
I don't measure success by income.

You are not what you own.

Along the same lines as what you own ends up owning you???

Amputate Your Head · 10-31-2002, 12:51 PM

$1.37

TDF · 10-31-2002, 12:54 PM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
$1.37

stop stealing change from my couch

andi_germany · 10-31-2002, 12:57 PM

Success never had anything to do with money. Success is working for a goal and archieving it. If your goal is to just make money you will never know what success is. It has to be more than money. Love, Happiness are goals to archieve and if you do so you will have success. I run my websites all alone and I made a decent living of them and also have some stuck away for retirement. I could be rich by now but I always tried not to work to hard to neglect life.

TDF · 10-31-2002, 12:58 PM

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Originally posted by andi_germany
Success never had anything to do with money. Success is working for a goal and archieving it. If your goal is to just make money you will never know what success is. It has to be more than money. Love, Happiness are goals to archieve and if you do so you will have success. I run my websites all alone and I made a decent living of them and also have some stuck away for retirement. I could be rich by now but I always tried not to work to hard to neglect life.

agreed..my success wont be personally achieved until i sleep with party goat...everytime i try to approach him he back kicks me into next week

.:Frog:. · 10-31-2002, 12:58 PM

In Canada 45K (Canadian) is about the average income for a full-time working adult. Making at least the average salary in your country should be a good start.
If you can do this from the comfort of your own home your doing well.

If you start making more then average, your doing great.

I make as much money as alot of people I know who work 40/hours a week for someone else, but I'm still making average income. My goal would be to make 100K a year, which is sadly a long way to go.

Cheshire · 10-31-2002, 01:06 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream
that's not money - that a sugar daddy you're looking for.

hmm ~ so your point is that I cannot achieve meeting my own needs on my own merits?

SleazyDream · 10-31-2002, 01:13 PM

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Originally posted by Cheshire
hmm ~ so your point is that I cannot achieve meeting my own needs on my own merits?

finding a sugar daddy would be doing so on your own merits.........

something to consider -many people view being an employee with a set salary as no different than being a dependant spouse.

all depends on life experience I guess though. My father was never hugly sucessful, but he was self employed. As I got older I realized that many of his FRIENDS were people who were also in the construction business that made several million dollars a year net incomes. They considered my dad their FRIEND and their peer dispite the HUGE income difference and the main reason they did this was they just considered themselves to be lucky- They associated with employees that made many times my dad's income but never truly considered any of them friends or peers.

Cheshire · 10-31-2002, 01:22 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream
finding a sugar daddy would be doing so on your own merits.........

And you offer this opinion laden advise selflessly do you?

LoL

SleazyDream · 10-31-2002, 01:26 PM

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Originally posted by Cheshire
And you offer this opinion laden advise selflessly do you?

LoL

edited but not in time - read above please

cherrylula · 10-31-2002, 01:28 PM

Let's just say my kids will not have to work.

My main motivation for slinging porn: "No more jobs."

Cheshire · 10-31-2002, 01:34 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream
something to consider -many people view being an employee with a set salary as no different than being a dependant spouse.

all depends on life experience I guess though. My father was never hugly sucessful, but he was self employed. As I got older I realized that many of his FRIENDS were people who were also in the construction business that made several million dollars a year net incomes. They considered my dad their FRIEND and their peer dispite the HUGE income difference and the main reason they did this was they just considered themselves to be lucky- They associated with employees that made many times my dad's income but never truly considered any of them friends or peers.

The second part I respect, but don't see the connection to the first two statements...

In my opinion there are many different types of jobs a person can have, and being a spouse is one of them ~ whether it be your only job, or your second or third ~ but it should never be the best paying job you're qualified for.
One can either do their job well or be lazy and apathetic about it, but the results are due to your commitment and dedication ~ whether it be a happy marriage or financial successes.
I'm not ready to have my sole job be a relationship.

SleazyDream · 10-31-2002, 01:41 PM

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Originally posted by Cheshire
The second part I respect, but don't see the connection to the first two statements...

In my opinion there are many different types of jobs a person can have, and being a spouse is one of them ~ whether it be your only job, or your second or third ~ but it should never be the best paying job you're qualified for.
One can either do their job well or be lazy and apathetic about it, but the results are due to your commitment and dedication ~ whether it be a happy marriage or financial successes.
I'm not ready to have my sole job be a relationship.

the point would be self determination.

"but the results are due to your commitment and dedication "
- I disagree with this, I know many people who are HUGLY dedicated and comitted who have horrible results. It's rare that someone who isn't committed or dedicated gets results, but being commited and dedicated isn't a guarentee of results.

Intelligent successful people know that and don't fault someone for lack of results if they were willing to take PERSONAL RISKS and SACRIFICES like they did. Lack of taking those risks and sacrifices means dependance and lack of self-determination.

thus some people need to go out and find themselves a sugar daddy, others get a sugar daddy to find them.

SleazyDream · 10-31-2002, 01:49 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream

thus some people need to go out and find themselves a sugar daddy, others get a sugar daddy to find them.

I was intending to say that you seem to have the ability to go out and find one instead of waiting till something fell into your lap.... self-determination.............

Big E · 10-31-2002, 01:53 PM

Let's just say that at whatever point you think you're going to feel comfortable, when you reach that point, you're going to want more.

If you think $100k is nirvana, when you get there, you're gonna wanna go for $250k, and when you get to that, $1M looks awful inviting..

beemk · 10-31-2002, 01:57 PM

i dont think money matters. i think you have to be happy to be successful. you can make 100000 billion dollars and if you arent happy, you arent successful.

Big E · 10-31-2002, 02:04 PM

Money doesn't "buy" happiness, but it gives you the freedom to pursue the things that should make you happy, i.e. if you've got money, you've got freedom to travel or play golf or lounge by the pool or go out every night or do whatever it is that makes you happy..

If you DON'T have money, you get to get up every morning and do something you probably aren't too happy about doing..

People who have money who aren't happy wouldn't be happy having no money either.. they's just unhappy motherfuckers.

Cheshire · 10-31-2002, 02:28 PM

Indeed

pimplink · 10-31-2002, 02:33 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX
I don't measure success by income.

You are not what you own.

Wow. Good point, Fletch.

I actually measure success by how many places in the world I've travelled. Money comes and goes, but experiences/memories last forever.

Although money's good, its just a way to keep score.... it is NOT the game itself.

Lane · 10-31-2002, 02:45 PM

success can be measured by a combination of things...

money is one of them, but its not everything..

View Poll Results: Net Taxable annual income necessary to feel successful
0-$10,000 year	3	2.86%
$10,001-$25,000 a year	1	0.95%
$25,001 to $50,000 a year	5	4.76%
$50,001 to $100,000 a year	19	18.10%
$100,000 to $4,000,000 a year	39	37.14%
$400,001 to $1,000,000 a year	16	15.24%
$1,000,001 to $5,000,000 a year	13	12.38%
More than $5,000,000 a year	9	8.57%
Voters: 105. You may not vote on this poll

10-31-2002, 11:51 AM	#1
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10-31-2002, 11:55 AM	#2
TDF Triple OG nigga on GFY Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: in the BP4L family compound Posts: 27,296	anything more than what I was making before I quit mainstream work __________________ Sig heil

10-31-2002, 11:56 AM	#3
sherbert Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: KAGAWA, Japan Posts: 470	nice option 5 you've got there, sleazy. ever worked for enron? option 5 = trick option? __________________ sdfsdfsdvgf Last edited by sherbert; 10-31-2002 at 11:58 AM..

10-31-2002, 12:00 PM	#6
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	100,000 to 4 million?? Thats a large range!!! I think you mean 100,000 to 400,000 dont you? Anyhow thats what i picked. __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids.

10-31-2002, 11:57 AM	#4
DjSap Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,869	i would say 100k...but thats in sweden, our lawyers barerly make 60k... i'll be succesfull when i'm making enough money to employ other people to do everything so that i can travel all the time...

10-31-2002, 12:03 PM	#7
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	mmmmoney - so tasty __________________ we'll miss you our friend. RIP

10-31-2002, 12:04 PM	#8
JohnnyRebel Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 43	Whatever makes you happy... __________________ pfft!

10-31-2002, 12:06 PM	#9
Warphead Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Kiss my yankee dick. Posts: 994	I think instead of saying raw income you need to compare to real spending power (due to differences in region, a couple hundred bucks is a lot of money someplaces). I thought I was successful as hell when I was making more than I would at a minimum-wage job. Then I thought I was successful again when I quit college to do this full-time. I think someone's successful when they pay all their bills and have some wasting money left over, in other words I'm always just a little shy of success.

10-31-2002, 12:15 PM	#10
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	I don't measure success by income. You are not what you own. __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

10-31-2002, 12:16 PM	#11
Ross Ik ben een aap Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Traffic Force Towers, Canada! Posts: 18,874	Who says your successful by the amount of money you earn? You could be successful at other things, you could have a nice family and decent house and car wuth just a normal job bringing in about $30,000 per year!! But then again you could have millions in the bank and be the biggest asshole in the world, does that mean your successful?? To be successful in life all I want is to always have a job making money and be happy LOL but a few million would come in handy

10-31-2002, 12:17 PM	#13
Hustlin Entertainment So Fucking Banned Join Date: May 2002 Location: Nassau,Bahamas Posts: 2,326	1 billion

10-31-2002, 12:17 PM	#14
Brown Bear Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 4,982	My basis for success is the amount of money that someone has in assets, not just what they make in a year. Assets are what count, because your cashflow could end tomorrow. __________________ Surrender all your independent thinking and Click Here for re-programming.

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Cheshire Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Rosen-Villin Posts: 5,738	The amount it takes to pay all my bills monthly, and have enough left over to go out once a week and wear nice clothing most of the time. Is that too much to ask? __________________ just a little bit naughty

10-31-2002, 12:26 PM	#17
rdunn404 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 999	- Tyler Durden: You're not your job. You're not how much money you have in the bank. You're not the car you drive. You're not the contents of your wallet. You're not your fucking khakis. You're the all-singing, all-dancing crap of the world.

10-31-2002, 12:29 PM	#23
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	merchandise "when we have nothing left to give there will be no reason for us to live but when we have nothing left to lose you will have nothing left to use we owe you nothing you have no control merchandise keeps us in line common sense says it's by design what could a businessman ever want more than to have us sucking in his store we owe you nothing you have no control you are not what you own you are not what you own you are not what you own you are not what you own" Ian MacKaye __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

10-31-2002, 12:37 PM	#25
bauhaus Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Costa Rica Posts: 773	it has to be based on geography as well.....as some people are pointing out. Not to point figures ( I know you do very well ) but a US dollar goes remarkably far in manitoba....compare that to a webmaster in NYC and you are talking apples to fuckin diamonds. Cause for example $100k US almost anywhere in canada is a pretty damn sweet life (I live in Toronto by the way, so this is not a slam canada thing) $100k US in NYC is not really that hot....I mean you are not at all living large. In manitoba you could basically buy up half a town (this is not finger pointing but a simple fact) In reality I think Sleazy in terms of assets - if that was the factor might beat out guys making triple what he does because of 'geography'.....Canadians do very well off of USD based e-commerce. __________________ Insane, Color and Instant Sensation REalize the potential of dynamic coded features all in real time Vivid Php Code This is the reality of Outsoursouring SKype HolyBauhaus Deep, Deep in the Tropical Dry Rainforest.

10-31-2002, 12:38 PM	#26
Jakke PNG ex-TeenGodFather Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Suomi Finland Perkele Posts: 20,306	Hmm.. a tough one. I'd say I make enough money when I can live as I please, and still bank 50% of my profits. Dunno how much that is. __________________ ..and I'm off.

10-31-2002, 12:39 PM	#28
bauhaus Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Costa Rica Posts: 773	YES YES I know you don't make only 100k US...it was a figure used as a gauging point. For those not familiar with our dollars worth.....100k is almost 160k cdn.....and things are the same price here (usually less) __________________ Insane, Color and Instant Sensation REalize the potential of dynamic coded features all in real time Vivid Php Code This is the reality of Outsoursouring SKype HolyBauhaus Deep, Deep in the Tropical Dry Rainforest.

10-31-2002, 12:51 PM	#32
Amputate Your Head There can be only one Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere else Posts: 39,075	$1.37 __________________ SIG TOO BIG

10-31-2002, 12:57 PM	#34
andi_germany Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 768	Success never had anything to do with money. Success is working for a goal and archieving it. If your goal is to just make money you will never know what success is. It has to be more than money. Love, Happiness are goals to archieve and if you do so you will have success. I run my websites all alone and I made a decent living of them and also have some stuck away for retirement. I could be rich by now but I always tried not to work to hard to neglect life.

10-31-2002, 12:58 PM	#36
.:Frog:. Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: ~ C A N A D A ~ Posts: 2,123	In Canada 45K (Canadian) is about the average income for a full-time working adult. Making at least the average salary in your country should be a good start. If you can do this from the comfort of your own home your doing well. If you start making more then average, your doing great. I make as much money as alot of people I know who work 40/hours a week for someone else, but I'm still making average income. My goal would be to make 100K a year, which is sadly a long way to go. __________________ <a href="http://www.pornopayouts.com/?rid=pp3076">PornoPayouts</a> Tons of Hosted Galleries. Last edited by .:Frog:.; 10-31-2002 at 01:01 PM..

10-31-2002, 01:28 PM	#41
cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	Let's just say my kids will not have to work. My main motivation for slinging porn: "No more jobs."

10-31-2002, 01:53 PM	#45
Big E Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 935	Let's just say that at whatever point you think you're going to feel comfortable, when you reach that point, you're going to want more. If you think $100k is nirvana, when you get there, you're gonna wanna go for $250k, and when you get to that, $1M looks awful inviting..

10-31-2002, 01:57 PM	#46
beemk CLICK HERE Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 20,829	i dont think money matters. i think you have to be happy to be successful. you can make 100000 billion dollars and if you arent happy, you arent successful. __________________ I host with Vacares

10-31-2002, 02:04 PM	#47
Big E Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 935	Money doesn't "buy" happiness, but it gives you the freedom to pursue the things that should make you happy, i.e. if you've got money, you've got freedom to travel or play golf or lounge by the pool or go out every night or do whatever it is that makes you happy.. If you DON'T have money, you get to get up every morning and do something you probably aren't too happy about doing.. People who have money who aren't happy wouldn't be happy having no money either.. they's just unhappy motherfuckers.

10-31-2002, 02:28 PM	#48
Cheshire Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Rosen-Villin Posts: 5,738	Indeed __________________ just a little bit naughty

10-31-2002, 02:45 PM	#50
Lane Will code for food... Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Buckeye, AZ Posts: 8,496	success can be measured by a combination of things... money is one of them, but its not everything.. __________________