What kind of income do you feel means you're successful?
 

Money makes the world go round - curious as to how much net taxable annual income is enough for you folks to be successful in this or any business.

anything more than what I was making before I quit mainstream work

nice option 5 you've got there, sleazy. ever worked for enron?

option 5 = trick option?

i would say 100k...but thats in sweden, our lawyers barerly make 60k...

i'll be succesfull when i'm making enough money to employ other people to do everything so that i can travel all the time...

there was a slight variation in the value of the us doller on the world curency market in the time it took to type option 4 and option 5.

100,000 to 4 million??

Thats a large range!!!

I think you mean 100,000 to 400,000 dont you?

Anyhow thats what i picked.

mmmmoney - so tasty :glugglug

Whatever makes you happy...

I think instead of saying raw income you need to compare to real spending power (due to differences in region, a couple hundred bucks is a lot of money someplaces).

I thought I was successful as hell when I was making more than I would at a minimum-wage job. Then I thought I was successful again when I quit college to do this full-time.

I think someone's successful when they pay all their bills and have some wasting money left over, in other words I'm always just a little shy of success.

I don't measure success by income.

You are not what you own.

Who says your successful by the amount of money you earn?

You could be successful at other things, you could have a nice family and decent house and car wuth just a normal job bringing in about $30,000 per year!!

But then again you could have millions in the bank and be the biggest asshole in the world, does that mean your successful??

To be successful in life all I want is to always have a job making money and be happy

LOL but a few million would come in handy :thumbsup

zing! truth has spoken

1 billion

My basis for success is the amount of money that someone has in assets, not just what they make in a year.

Assets are what count, because your cashflow could end tomorrow.

The amount it takes to pay all my bills monthly, and have enough left over to go out once a week and wear nice clothing most of the time.


Is that too much to ask?

I would tend to agree with you on this one. Cash flow can end at anytime, what counts is how well you are going to be with no cash flow?....and to clairify I'm talking about working for cash flow. Cash flow from investments and other ventures gets added to the How well you will be side of the coin:winkwink:

Assets baby, thats what counts:Graucho

- Tyler Durden: You're not your job. You're not how much money you have in the bank. You're not the car you drive. You're not the contents of your wallet. You're not your fucking khakis. You're the all-singing, all-dancing crap of the world.

that's not money - that a sugar daddy you're looking for.

word

yes it does.

its not the truth...the weed has spoken...

:1orglaugh

merchandise

"when we have nothing left to give
there will be no reason for us to live
but when we have nothing left to lose
you will have nothing left to use

we owe you nothing
you have no control

merchandise keeps us in line
common sense says it's by design
what could a businessman ever want more
than to have us sucking in his store

we owe you nothing
you have no control

you are not what you own
you are not what you own
you are not what you own
you are not what you own"

Ian MacKaye

That's what broke people say

it has to be based on geography as well.....as some people are pointing out.

Not to point figures ( I know you do very well ) but a US dollar goes remarkably far in manitoba....compare that to a webmaster in NYC and you are talking apples to fuckin diamonds.

Cause for example $100k US almost anywhere in canada is a pretty damn sweet life (I live in Toronto by the way, so this is not a slam canada thing) $100k US in NYC is not really that hot....I mean you are not at all living large. In manitoba you could basically buy up half a town (this is not finger pointing but a simple fact)

In reality I think Sleazy in terms of assets - if that was the factor might beat out guys making triple what he does because of 'geography'.....Canadians do very well off of USD based e-commerce.

Hmm.. a tough one.
I'd say I make enough money when I can live as I please, and still bank 50% of my profits. Dunno how much that is. :)

Blahblahblah If I could make $400,000 tax free a year I'd be happy and relatively successfull.

YES YES I know you don't make only 100k US...it was a figure used as a gauging point.

For those not familiar with our dollars worth.....100k is almost 160k cdn.....and things are the same price here (usually less)

True,

SleazyDream is what he eats ;p

haha...as long as im living comfortably,have money to put other people on, and eventually retire and be a motivational speaker then im happy..

Along the same lines as what you own ends up owning you???

$1.37

stop stealing change from my couch

Success never had anything to do with money. Success is working for a goal and archieving it. If your goal is to just make money you will never know what success is. It has to be more than money. Love, Happiness are goals to archieve and if you do so you will have success. I run my websites all alone and I made a decent living of them and also have some stuck away for retirement. I could be rich by now but I always tried not to work to hard to neglect life.

agreed..my success wont be personally achieved until i sleep with party goat...everytime i try to approach him he back kicks me into next week :(

In Canada 45K (Canadian) is about the average income for a full-time working adult. Making at least the average salary in your country should be a good start.
If you can do this from the comfort of your own home your doing well.

If you start making more then average, your doing great.

I make as much money as alot of people I know who work 40/hours a week for someone else, but I'm still making average income. My goal would be to make 100K a year, which is sadly a long way to go. :(

hmm ~ so your point is that I cannot achieve meeting my own needs on my own merits?

finding a sugar daddy would be doing so on your own merits.........



something to consider -many people view being an employee with a set salary as no different than being a dependant spouse.


all depends on life experience I guess though. My father was never hugly sucessful, but he was self employed. As I got older I realized that many of his FRIENDS were people who were also in the construction business that made several million dollars a year net incomes. They considered my dad their FRIEND and their peer dispite the HUGE income difference and the main reason they did this was they just considered themselves to be lucky- They associated with employees that made many times my dad's income but never truly considered any of them friends or peers.

And you offer this opinion laden advise selflessly do you?

LoL

edited but not in time - read above please

Let's just say my kids will not have to work. :winkwink:

My main motivation for slinging porn: "No more jobs."

The second part I respect, but don't see the connection to the first two statements...

In my opinion there are many different types of jobs a person can have, and being a spouse is one of them ~ whether it be your only job, or your second or third ~ but it should never be the best paying job you're qualified for.
One can either do their job well or be lazy and apathetic about it, but the results are due to your commitment and dedication ~ whether it be a happy marriage or financial successes.
I'm not ready to have my sole job be a relationship.

the point would be self determination.

"but the results are due to your commitment and dedication "
- I disagree with this, I know many people who are HUGLY dedicated and comitted who have horrible results. It's rare that someone who isn't committed or dedicated gets results, but being commited and dedicated isn't a guarentee of results.

Intelligent successful people know that and don't fault someone for lack of results if they were willing to take PERSONAL RISKS and SACRIFICES like they did. Lack of taking those risks and sacrifices means dependance and lack of self-determination.



thus some people need to go out and find themselves a sugar daddy, others get a sugar daddy to find them.

I was intending to say that you seem to have the ability to go out and find one instead of waiting till something fell into your lap.... self-determination.............

Let's just say that at whatever point you think you're going to feel comfortable, when you reach that point, you're going to want more.

If you think $100k is nirvana, when you get there, you're gonna wanna go for $250k, and when you get to that, $1M looks awful inviting..

i dont think money matters. i think you have to be happy to be successful. you can make 100000 billion dollars and if you arent happy, you arent successful.

Money doesn't "buy" happiness, but it gives you the freedom to pursue the things that should make you happy, i.e. if you've got money, you've got freedom to travel or play golf or lounge by the pool or go out every night or do whatever it is that makes you happy..

If you DON'T have money, you get to get up every morning and do something you probably aren't too happy about doing..

People who have money who aren't happy wouldn't be happy having no money either.. they's just unhappy motherfuckers.

Indeed

Wow. Good point, Fletch.

I actually measure success by how many places in the world I've travelled. Money comes and goes, but experiences/memories last forever.

Although money's good, its just a way to keep score.... it is NOT the game itself.

success can be measured by a combination of things...

money is one of them, but its not everything..