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Old 09-23-2008, 10:28 AM   #1
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XVideos.com is probably stealing your content

We've been finding a good bit of our brazilbang stuff on there.

You might want to see what they are strealing from you.
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Old 09-23-2008, 11:10 AM   #2
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That guy has more traffic than the whole internet. Sponsors worship him.
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Old 09-23-2008, 11:34 AM   #3
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That guy has more traffic than the whole internet. Sponsors worship him.
a disgrace that any sponsor deals with any illegal tube sites - instead of fearing them and appeasing them sponsors should be spending their time working together to take them down, whatever it takes.
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a disgrace that any sponsor deals with any illegal tube sites - instead of fearing them and appeasing them sponsors should be spending their time working together to take them down, whatever it takes.
Yet everyone praises hahaha, and rude.com is still filled with tons of stolen content, including stuff from XXXjay's sites.

Funny how this industry works.
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Old 09-23-2008, 11:39 AM   #5
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a disgrace that any sponsor deals with any illegal tube sites - instead of fearing them and appeasing them sponsors should be spending their time working together to take them down, whatever it takes.
who owns xvideos?
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they do host at REALITYCHECKNETWORK.COM
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who owns xvideos?
Xnxx.com owns it
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But why single them out.. what about hahaha and rude.com, and tarpy and cliphunter.com

Most people on GFY do business with these people daily.
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who owns xvideos?
i don't know - the sponsors they use like Fling know though.

here's the other scumbags in their tube network


http://info.xvideos.com/advertising/
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Old 09-23-2008, 11:50 AM   #10
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Xnxx.com owns it
Yep my dear friend nophest own it
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i don't know - the sponsors they use like Fling know though.

here's the other scumbags in their tube network


http://info.xvideos.com/advertising/
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Xnxx.com owns it
He's right, I found this stuff all the other day. One guy was complaining that all his stuff wasn't watermarked but yet all of hahaha's stuff was.

This is my favorite part, the DCRM notice they put up:
"f you wish to have your content removed from our pages please contact us through email or ICQ.

First off, we don't mean to steal content. If you want to have your watermarked content entirely removed and kept away from our sites (millions of users) so be it.

But please note that we could instead add your own ads to those videos, read more here. Contrary to what some persons say 'tube' sites do generate sales. The conversions are lower (1/1500 to 1/5000 uniques for us) but since you reach more people it is still interesting. Ask yourself how many hundred's of FHG you would need to generate the same clicks? And the slow process of contacting site owners and waiting for their reviews? We offer self-service traffic, completely FREE!

Flash videos sites are very much for video lovers what pics TGP's are for photo lovers : they get a lot of what they want right here. If you think 20 pics are nothing compared to a big video you are assuming these users browse pictures because they don't have access to videos, but they do (TGP's have both). They watch pictures because they prefer pictures. Do picture galleries still make sales? They do, and the conversions numbers for us are similar to the ads on flash pages. Did picture tgp kill the industry?"

http://info.xvideos.com/content/
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Old 09-23-2008, 11:56 AM   #13
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[QUOTE=kristin;14794329]He's right, I found this stuff all the other day. One guy was complaining that all his stuff wasn't watermarked but yet all of hahaha's stuff was.[\quote]

Not sure who was saying rude.com was all watermarked, because it must surely is not. You can find a ton of vids from a number of sponsors with watermarks removed...
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Old 09-23-2008, 12:06 PM   #14
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We've been finding a good bit of our brazilbang stuff on there.

You might want to see what they are strealing from you.
the owner is a big douchebag, he has a lot of sponsors content promoting his own paysite vidz.com, hes been sent notices over and over.

top bucks content promoting his own site

http://www.xvideos.com/video24451/Sasha_grey_teen_whore

fuckyoucash content promoting his own site
http://www.xvideos.com/video29408/Sasha_Grey

fuckyoucash content promoting his own site
http://www.xvideos.com/video27359/Sasha_Grey_2

realitycash content promoting his own site
http://www.xvideos.com/video43854/Al...ougar_Recruits

occash content promoing his own site
http://www.xvideos.com/video12751/Ou...y_And_Brooklyn

also got to love this from his content removal page

First off, we don't mean to steal content. If you want to have your watermarked content entirely removed and kept away from our sites (millions of users) so be it.

http://webmasters.vidz.com/

is his paysite program which hes promoting everyones content with

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Old 09-23-2008, 12:27 PM   #15
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the owner is a big douchebag, he has a lot of sponsors content promoting his own paysite vidz.com, hes been sent notices over and over.

top bucks content promoting his own site

http://www.xvideos.com/video24451/Sasha_grey_teen_whore
Actually if you go to the site listed on the video, it's just a frame that is actually going to the TopBucks sites with full tracking. He's doing it legitimately there.
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Old 09-23-2008, 12:30 PM   #16
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Most people dont know to double click, he has ads for vidz.com at the top
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Actually if you go to the site listed on the video, it's just a frame that is actually going to the TopBucks sites with full tracking. He's doing it legitimately there.
Yeah, I think the way he is doing that is far from legit:

1. Just because you leave the watermark "Doesn't make it OK...", it is my opinion you MUST links through to the site / program it came from.

2. The page shouldn't be 85% ads to other sponsors.

3. I try to work with the sponsors and understand what they are comfortable having up there and (in a best case senerio), submit it themselves!

The way all these peope are doing business is bullshit. We used to get 10-20k per month for our exits. Those days are gone, as will be the days when Fling and other will keep buying these shit spots on thee bootleg sites.

I hope, at least.
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Jay,

I wish you could make an example in this industry and go after this kind of shit. You have the knowledge, the following and the reputation to make a difference.

Attack, attack, attack!

It's just bullshit what these guys and pornhub, redtube, youporn are doing... I can't believe the content owners can't do anything about it...

go get em Jay!

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Yeah, I think the way he is doing that is far from legit:

1. Just because you leave the watermark "Doesn't make it OK...", it is my opinion you MUST links through to the site / program it came from.

2. The page shouldn't be 85% ads to other sponsors.

3. I try to work with the sponsors and understand what they are comfortable having up there and (in a best case senerio), submit it themselves!

The way all these peope are doing business is bullshit. We used to get 10-20k per month for our exits. Those days are gone, as will be the days when Fling and other will keep buying these shit spots on thee bootleg sites.

I hope, at least.
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he has a lot of sponsors content promoting his own paysite vidz.com, hes been sent notices over and over.

top bucks content promoting his own site

http://www.xvideos.com/video24451/Sasha_grey_teen_whore

fuckyoucash content promoting his own site
http://www.xvideos.com/video29408/Sasha_Grey

fuckyoucash content promoting his own site
http://www.xvideos.com/video27359/Sasha_Grey_2

realitycash content promoting his own site
http://www.xvideos.com/video43854/Al...ougar_Recruits

occash content promoing his own site
http://www.xvideos.com/video12751/Ou...y_And_Brooklyn

also got to love this from his content removal page

First off, we don't mean to steal content. If you want to have your watermarked content entirely removed and kept away from our sites (millions of users) so be it.

http://webmasters.vidz.com/

is his paysite program which hes promoting everyones content with

The guy who runs xvideos has a network of sites with huge amounts of traffic. I bet you he is amongst the biggest affiliates for each of those programs you named (topbucks, fuckyoucash, realitycash, and occash). I bet he sends each of those programs many sales per day through his network. It all boils down to politics. Obviously, sponsors don't like him using their content to promote his site, but as long as he's also sending those sponsors lots of sales, they're willing to turn a blind eye to that kind of stuff.

Right XxxJay? How many sales per day does Xnxx/Nophest do for Occash?
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Yeah, I think the way he is doing that is far from legit:

1. Just because you leave the watermark "Doesn't make it OK...", it is my opinion you MUST links through to the site / program it came from.

2. The page shouldn't be 85% ads to other sponsors.

3. I try to work with the sponsors and understand what they are comfortable having up there and (in a best case senerio), submit it themselves!

The way all these peope are doing business is bullshit. We used to get 10-20k per month for our exits. Those days are gone, as will be the days when Fling and other will keep buying these shit spots on thee bootleg sites.

I hope, at least.
There are links above the movie that directs you right to the page, the others are just in a frame.

From our end it is legit as we are tracking, etc. Personally I'd love having no other sponsors advertised near my clip, but that's never gonna happen. Doesn't on MGPs, doesn't on review sites, and it doesn't on legit tubes.
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Old 09-23-2008, 04:08 PM   #21
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why not file up a DMCA and send it to his host and the hosts upstream provider?

the will take himn the fuck down.
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The guy who runs xvideos has a network of sites with huge amounts of traffic. I bet you he is amongst the biggest affiliates for each of those programs you named (topbucks, fuckyoucash, realitycash, and occash). I bet he sends each of those programs many sales per day through his network. It all boils down to politics. Obviously, sponsors don't like him using their content to promote his site, but as long as he's also sending those sponsors lots of sales, they're willing to turn a blind eye to that kind of stuff.

Right XxxJay? How many sales per day does Xnxx/Nophest do for Occash?
Ask him how many pichunter sends as well, and what he does biz wise with hahaha.

Jay was very anti Rude.com, but when hahaha bought it, it was all praise from Jay to hahaha.

No offense jay, but it's true.
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who owns xvideos?
Xnxx does, so no sponsor is gonna move a finger cause he is probably sending massive traffic and sales

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That guy has more traffic than the whole internet. Sponsors worship him.
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There are links above the movie that directs you right to the page, the others are just in a frame.

From our end it is legit as we are tracking, etc. Personally I'd love having no other sponsors advertised near my clip, but that's never gonna happen. Doesn't on MGPs, doesn't on review sites, and it doesn't on legit tubes.
I looked at that and I can't see where that link is LOL
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We've been finding a good bit of our brazilbang stuff on there.

You might want to see what they are strealing from you.
Should we go ahead and stop doing updates FOR YOU. The pages have your links up...............

I'm fucking sick of getting shit from clueless sponsors. You will all wake up one day and big site owners won't give a fuck about you and be all legit and promote everything but your sites and surfers won't ever hear about you., except when they see your full site RIPs on torrents.
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the owner is a big douchebag, he has a lot of sponsors content promoting his own paysite vidz.com, hes been sent notices over and over.

top bucks content promoting his own site

http://www.xvideos.com/video24451/Sasha_grey_teen_whore

fuckyoucash content promoting his own site
http://www.xvideos.com/video29408/Sasha_Grey

fuckyoucash content promoting his own site
http://www.xvideos.com/video27359/Sasha_Grey_2

realitycash content promoting his own site
http://www.xvideos.com/video43854/Al...ougar_Recruits

occash content promoing his own site
http://www.xvideos.com/video12751/Ou...y_And_Brooklyn

also got to love this from his content removal page

First off, we don't mean to steal content. If you want to have your watermarked content entirely removed and kept away from our sites (millions of users) so be it.

http://webmasters.vidz.com/

is his paysite program which hes promoting everyones content with

You shouldn't be allowed to speak you don't know WTF you are talking about.
The pornpro vids were uploaded by the PORNPRO OWNERS, they are free to select the right set of ads WHENEVER.
The occash vids indeed are missing the channel ads because my employee forgot them that's not supposed to happen maybe 2% of the total. I will yell at him.
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Besides this is 3-4 min videos give me a fucking break from the retards damn it!
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It never ceases to amaze me that all because of youtube, formerly legit site owners think they have a loophole to get away with using content without permission.
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Jay was very anti Rude.com, but when hahaha bought it, it was all praise from Jay to hahaha.
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You shouldn't be allowed to speak you don't know WTF you are talking about.
The pornpro vids were uploaded by the PORNPRO OWNERS, they are free to select the right set of ads WHENEVER.
The occash vids indeed are missing the channel ads because my employee forgot them that's not supposed to happen maybe 2% of the total. I will yell at him.
Hey man...I'll check out how to upload the videos and keep credit. I didn't see an add on it, so I will accept it was a mistake.
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1. Repeal the DMCA and rewrite it. (congressional action)
2. Prosecute one of the advertisers. (shut off the revenue stream)
3. Prove they do in fact monitor their networks, and or upload the content themselves. (figure out how to do that, i don't want to be the one to say it on either count.)
4. Pay someone to bring down the sites in question. (i personally think this option in the long run just makes it all worse.)

There you have it.


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fyi, my statements aren't about this guy, i haven't looked at what he's doing, nor do i intend to, i'm just putting my same two cents in ever thread about tubes and content stealing. fyi.
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Besides this is 3-4 min videos give me a fucking break from the retards damn it!
Congrats on getting the rights to the full Paris Hilton video!

hxxp://video.xnxx.com/video46516/Sex_Tape_Paris_Hilton_%21_Full_Video%21
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most of the popular videos appear to be in the 20+ min range


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Just wait until they start adding pre-recorded cam shows to the tubes
That's already happening. No danger for cam websites, since the main reason people join cam sites is interaction, something you'll never get when just watching videos.
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Congrats on getting the rights to the full Paris Hilton video!

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It's ok, looks like TroppoForte.net is letting them use it.
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i put them on notice
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Old 09-24-2008, 04:16 PM   #41
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You shouldn't be allowed to speak you don't know WTF you are talking about.
The pornpro vids were uploaded by the PORNPRO OWNERS, they are free to select the right set of ads WHENEVER.
The occash vids indeed are missing the channel ads because my employee forgot them that's not supposed to happen maybe 2% of the total. I will yell at him.
please proactively block uploads of the Paris Hilton Sex Video and advise your staff of same. thanks in advance.
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