EFF Sues President Bush Over Internet Surveillance - GoFuckYourself.com

Compdoctor · 09-20-2008, 08:41 AM

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The Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) has filed a lawsuit against President George W. Bush and others in his administration for the illegal surveillance of emails and telephone calls without a warrant.

The suit also names the National Security Agency (NSA), Vice President Dick Cheney, Cheney's chief of staff David Addington, and former Attorney General and White House Counsel Alberto Gonzales.

The lawsuit, Jewel v. NSA, is aimed at ending what the EFF says is "the NSA's dragnet surveillance of millions of ordinary Americans and holding accountable the government officials who illegally authorized it."

Evidence in the case includes undisputed documents provided by former AT&T employee Mark Klein showing AT&T has routed copies of Internet traffic to a secret room in San Francisco controlled by the NSA.

More here http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/20...t-surveillance

MaDalton · 09-20-2008, 08:42 AM

i am surprised...

not

directfiesta · 09-20-2008, 08:58 AM

They will refuse to obey subpoenas and warrants, and invoke 'executive power'...

It is the republican way of " no accountability" ...

d-null · 09-20-2008, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

They will refuse to obey subpoenas and warrants, and invoke 'executive power'...

It is the republican way of " no accountability" ...

that would be a shame, because having the government accountable is what sets a free country apart from evil regimes in history

Nikki_Licks · 09-20-2008, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

They will refuse to obey subpoenas and warrants, and invoke 'executive power'...

It is the republican way of " no accountability" ...

tiger · 09-20-2008, 03:27 PM

Executive Privilege.

aico · 09-20-2008, 03:29 PM

No one in this country gives a shit anymore. Must be something in the water or something.

Tempest · 09-20-2008, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by aico

No one in this country gives a shit anymore. Must be something in the water or something.

Keep the masses uneducated and you can get away with murder.

AaronM · 09-20-2008, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Tempest

Keep the masses uneducated and you can get away with murder.

Literally.

Phoenix · 09-20-2008, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Tempest

Keep the masses uneducated and you can get away with murder.

exactly....everyone is too dumb to care

davidd · 09-21-2008, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

They will refuse to obey subpoenas and warrants, and invoke 'executive power'...

It is the republican way of " no accountability" ...

You are falling into the trap of believing there is a difference between the two parties.

Every administration, regardless of party, ignores subpoenas, skirts the law, and fucks the US population in the ass.

Bush - Countless Examples - Iraq
Clinton - Countless examples - Whitewater, Vince Foster, Monica
Reagan - Countless Examples - Contras
Carter - Clueless
Nixon - Countless Examples - Watergate
LBJ - Countless - Gulf of Tonkin/Vietnam War
(to infinity)

http://differencebetweendemocratsandrepublicans.com/

Learn a little history before you expose your ignorance. Washington is a cess pool and they need the two party system to continue the us against them mentality... if they didn't have it then the American public would say, "Hey, these people suck".

directfiesta · 09-21-2008, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by davidd

You are falling into the trap of believing there is a difference between the two parties.

Every administration, regardless of party, ignores subpoenas, skirts the law, and fucks the US population in the ass.

Bush - Countless Examples - Iraq
Clinton - Countless examples - Whitewater, Vince Foster, Monica
Reagan - Countless Examples - Contras
Carter - Clueless
Nixon - Countless Examples - Watergate
LBJ - Countless - Gulf of Tonkin/Vietnam War
(to infinity)

http://differencebetweendemocratsandrepublicans.com/

Learn a little history before you expose your ignorance. Washington is a cess pool and they need the two party system to continue the us against them mentality... if they didn't have it then the American public would say, "Hey, these people suck".

Original post :

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

They will refuse to obey subpoenas and warrants, and invoke 'executive power'...

It is the republican way of " no accountability" ...

Good, I am happy to learn that hey will obey the subpoenas , will comply to the warrants and will not invoke " Executive " privilege...

I obviously was wrong, since these good GOP politicians always collaborate with justice, if not even going ahead of it to be transparent :

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updated 5:33 p.m. PT, Sat., Sept. 20, 2008
Judge orders Cheney to preserve records
Private group is suing vice president, Bush's office to keep materials open

WASHINGTON - A federal judge Saturday ordered Dick Cheney to preserve a wide range of the records from his time as vice president.

The decision by U.S. District Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly is a setback for the Bush administration in its effort to promote a narrow definition of materials that must be safeguarded under the Presidential Records Act.

The Bush administration's legal position "heightens the court's concern" that some records may not be preserved, said the judge.

The lawsuit stems from Cheney's position that his office is not part of the executive branch of government.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26808876/

Yes, I surely was wrong and need to learn more ... Maybe you have time, davidd, after your holiday season ???

MaDalton · 09-21-2008, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by davidd

You are falling into the trap of believing there is a difference between the two parties.

Every administration, regardless of party, ignores subpoenas, skirts the law, and fucks the US population in the ass.

Bush - Countless Examples - Iraq
Clinton - Countless examples - Whitewater, Vince Foster, Monica
Reagan - Countless Examples - Contras
Carter - Clueless
Nixon - Countless Examples - Watergate
LBJ - Countless - Gulf of Tonkin/Vietnam War
(to infinity)

am i mistaken or have at least Clinton and Carter not killed thousands or millions during their presidency?

Fletch XXX · 09-21-2008, 09:51 AM

the US military gets away with killing more innocent civilians than any terrosit group in the world.

Afghanistan - The number of Afghan civilians killed by US bombs has surpassed the death toll of the 11 September attacks, according to a study by an American academic. Nearly 3,800 Afghans died between 7 October and 7 December, University of New Hampshire Professor Marc Herold said in a research report.

Iraq - civilians dead - estimated between 100k - 500k

not to mention WW1,2 Vietnam etc...

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Originally Posted by Tempest

Keep the masses uneducated and you can get away with murder.

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