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RMG · 10-30-2002, 12:36 AM

I'm wanting to try a new marketing technique on some of my sites...it would require me hosting my own movies. It would consist of 12 clips - 300kb each. Out of 10k visitors, I figure the pages will recieve anywhere from 2,000-6,000 hits a day. What kind of bandwidth can I expect to burn here?

m0rph3us · 10-30-2002, 12:39 AM

Not a lot of places will accept 300kb movies (many have a 500kb movie limit). I'd do 8 x 500kb or 6 x 800kb.

Bandwidth

For every 10k gallery hits a day expect about 2Mbits. (~600GB).

RMG · 10-30-2002, 12:44 AM

Its not for TGP submission. I would NEVER give those freeloaders movies on my bandwidth.

600gb on 10k movie gallery traffic? how the fuck do these people make their bills?

at 1.00 per gb, you'd have to convert 1 out of every 600 gallery VISITS just to make back what you're spending.

<IMX> · 10-30-2002, 12:46 AM

Fuck...

maxcom · 10-30-2002, 12:54 AM

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Originally posted by <IMX>
Fuck...

lol... didnt do the numbers before posting the gallery?

Hustlin Entertainment · 10-30-2002, 12:56 AM

RMG · 10-30-2002, 12:58 AM

I'm still having a hard time figuring out how this is profitable if you can burn 600gb per day...unless you pay like .43 per gb or something

<IMX> · 10-30-2002, 01:00 AM

LOL no, I'm thinking of the brass balls on those who post movie galleries.

quiet · 10-30-2002, 01:01 AM

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Originally posted by RMG
I'm still having a hard time figuring out how this is profitable if you can burn 600gb per day...unless you pay like .43 per gb or something

scale coupled with rebills. i'm going to shut up now...

MichaelH · 10-30-2002, 01:02 AM

Morph3us, that's not true at all - more than enough sites (about 200 in my db) allow minimum file at 300kb or don't even set a min. file size. Movieposts which request 1mb+ as min. file size don't pay for the bandwidth themselves, they rather ripp it off from those free ISPs and make sure that those cut jobs.

If most of the movieposts won't rip off aol and all the other free isps, they would finally REALIZE that posting 1mb+ movies is a financial game with the fire and simply NUTS! And it doesn't make a site bigger at all...

Look at videpost-post.com, somewhere in the top ten on sextracker, and he's just fine with almost any file size. Bigger movie files =! (is not) bigger sites.

Also, file size doesn't say a tiny bit about movie quality. You can have a 1mb movie which still sucks in audio/visual quality, but you can also have 10sec clips at 300-400kb with excellent quality.

It's all about original movie encoding quality not about file size alone.

RMG, you might want to check out : http://www.numion.com/Calculators/
where you can calculate anything you want in puncto bandwidth.

Also, i invite everyone to post embeded movies on my site on free-porn-review.com or nice looking galleries anyways.

Greetings, Michael

PS : Even at 20cents or less per gig, it's a risky game.

<IMX> · 10-30-2002, 01:03 AM

quiet--
You going to Vegas? If so let me buy you some drink(s).

m0rph3us · 10-30-2002, 01:04 AM

. I'll shut up also

quiet · 10-30-2002, 01:08 AM

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Originally posted by <IMX>
quiet--
You going to Vegas? If so let me buy you some drink(s).

i was planning on it - but not so sure anymore. if i do, that would be cool...

SleazyDream · 10-30-2002, 01:11 AM

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Originally posted by MichaelH
Morph3us, that's not true at all - more than enough sites (about 200 in my db) allow minimum file at 300kb or don't even set a min. file size. Movieposts which request 1mb+ as min. file size don't pay for the bandwidth themselves, they rather ripp it off from those free ISPs and make sure that those cut jobs.

If most of the movieposts won't rip off aol and all the other free isps, they would finally REALIZE that posting 1mb+ movies is a financial game with the fire and simply NUTS! And it doesn't make a site bigger at all...

Look at videpost-post.com, somewhere in the top ten on sextracker, and he's just fine with almost any file size. Bigger movie files =! (is not) bigger sites.

Also, file size doesn't say a tiny bit about movie quality. You can have a 1mb movie which still sucks in audio/visual quality, but you can also have 10sec clips at 300-400kb with excellent quality.

It's all about original movie encoding quality not about file size alone.

RMG, you might want to check out : http://www.numion.com/Calculators/
where you can calculate anything you want in puncto bandwidth.

Also, i invite everyone to post embeded movies on my site on free-porn-review.com or nice looking galleries anyways.

Greetings, Michael

PS : Even at 20cents or less per gig, it's a risky game.

people used to say that about pic galleries too.

m0rph3us · 10-30-2002, 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RMG
Its not for TGP submission. I would NEVER give those freeloaders movies on my bandwidth.

600gb on 10k movie gallery traffic? how the fuck do these people make their bills?

at 1.00 per gb, you'd have to convert 1 out of every 600 gallery VISITS just to make back what you're spending.

uhm no, for every 10k per day for the duration of 30 days, you'd burn 2Mbits/month.

10k to gallery would burn like 20GB

MichaelH · 10-30-2002, 01:14 AM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream

people used to say that about pic galleries too.

Maybe it was at a time where the bandwidth prices were set at 5-6$/gig or more...

quiet · 10-30-2002, 01:15 AM

look, don't fuck with movie galleries. you'll lose your shirt!!

Pornwolf · 10-30-2002, 01:22 AM

Nice sig quote Quiet.

jollyperv · 10-30-2002, 01:30 AM

Stick to pic galleries, we've got the movie galleries taken care of.

RMG · 10-30-2002, 01:36 AM

No, i'm not submitting these hehe.

Aint got the balls for that. I just want to use this as a promotional tool for the movie traffic I have.

jollyperv · 10-30-2002, 02:16 AM

just pokin' fun

I wish you luck, you should definetely get someone to write a script to protect the movies from hotlinkers...it can be done with cookies, but then you'd be denying surfers who don't have them enabled.
Or you could get a script that randomly renames the files every 30 minutes, not sure if anyone offers this but it probably wouldn't be too hard for someone to code.

Good luck and don't believe the hype about cogent...

MichaelH · 10-30-2002, 02:24 AM

I use some kickass host which 100% protects my movies - htaccess + cookie support alone doesn't help.
They've got some very special and bulletproof module installed against movies hotlinking.

Hit me up on icq 146920758 for more details.

Greetings, Michael

<IMX> · 10-30-2002, 03:04 AM

where is that movie webmaster site?

RMG · 10-30-2002, 03:13 AM

Anyone know a good program (free preferably) for cutting full movies into clips?

jollyperv · 10-30-2002, 03:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by <IMX>
where is that movie webmaster site?

http://www.videosboard.com

jollyperv · 10-30-2002, 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RMG
Anyone know a good program (free preferably) for cutting full movies into clips?

Some people will tell you that you'll need premier, and if you want to do fancy shit with text and inserting graphic frames and the like, then premier is the way to go.

I, however, don't have any use for such a program.

Virtualdub(which is free) is the best program, hands down, to cut mpegs and avis. If want to do mpeg clips, You'll need to re-encode them afterwards with a different program called TMpegEnc, which is also free, and very very customizable (is that a word?)

http://www.virtualdub.org
http://www.tmpgenc.net/e_main.html

RMG · 10-30-2002, 04:24 AM

Hey jolly perv...can you contact me on icq?

141823362

BV · 10-30-2002, 05:50 AM

Current In: 82.9 Mb/s (81.9%)

Muff · 10-30-2002, 05:57 AM

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Originally posted by BV
Current In: 82.9 Mb/s (81.9%)

I hope you mean "out" otherwise you're pushing a gig/s

BV · 10-30-2002, 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Muff

I hope you mean "out" otherwise you're pushing a gig/s

That's what's leaving my box IN to the net.
Out is in In and In is out right?.

<IMX> · 10-31-2002, 10:29 PM

I got some more q's about movie galleries...
I'm trying to grow some brass nuts

How many clips to post?
3-10?

What size?
200-1500kb

What format?
wmv v. mpeg

Basically...what are the guidelines so you will get listed at MGPs?

FuzzBuzz · 11-01-2002, 01:27 AM

max 4 recips

id say 300k+

any compression apart from divx

10-30-2002, 12:36 AM	#1
RMG Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 542	Movie Gallery Submitters - Questions PLZ I'm wanting to try a new marketing technique on some of my sites...it would require me hosting my own movies. It would consist of 12 clips - 300kb each. Out of 10k visitors, I figure the pages will recieve anywhere from 2,000-6,000 hits a day. What kind of bandwidth can I expect to burn here?

10-30-2002, 12:46 AM	#4
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10-30-2002, 01:00 AM	#8
<IMX> Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 2,728	LOL no, I'm thinking of the brass balls on those who post movie galleries. __________________ $$$ Check out NICHE PAY the leader of Micro Niche Sites! They offer $1 Trials! $$$ $$$ Check out 10 FREE TRIAL SALES equals 1 FREE LAP TOP ! $$$

10-30-2002, 01:02 AM	#10
MichaelH Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ever heard of Grunnn??? Posts: 130	Morph3us, that's not true at all - more than enough sites (about 200 in my db) allow minimum file at 300kb or don't even set a min. file size. Movieposts which request 1mb+ as min. file size don't pay for the bandwidth themselves, they rather ripp it off from those free ISPs and make sure that those cut jobs. If most of the movieposts won't rip off aol and all the other free isps, they would finally REALIZE that posting 1mb+ movies is a financial game with the fire and simply NUTS! And it doesn't make a site bigger at all... Look at videpost-post.com, somewhere in the top ten on sextracker, and he's just fine with almost any file size. Bigger movie files =! (is not) bigger sites. Also, file size doesn't say a tiny bit about movie quality. You can have a 1mb movie which still sucks in audio/visual quality, but you can also have 10sec clips at 300-400kb with excellent quality. It's all about original movie encoding quality not about file size alone. RMG, you might want to check out : http://www.numion.com/Calculators/ where you can calculate anything you want in puncto bandwidth. Also, i invite everyone to post embeded movies on my site on free-porn-review.com or nice looking galleries anyways. Greetings, Michael PS : Even at 20cents or less per gig, it's a risky game. Last edited by MichaelH; 10-30-2002 at 01:07 AM..

10-30-2002, 01:03 AM	#11
<IMX> Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 2,728	quiet-- You going to Vegas? If so let me buy you some drink(s). __________________ $$$ Check out NICHE PAY the leader of Micro Niche Sites! They offer $1 Trials! $$$ $$$ Check out 10 FREE TRIAL SALES equals 1 FREE LAP TOP ! $$$

10-30-2002, 12:39 AM	#2
m0rph3us Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Principality of Sealand Posts: 2,033	Not a lot of places will accept 300kb movies (many have a 500kb movie limit). I'd do 8 x 500kb or 6 x 800kb. Bandwidth For every 10k gallery hits a day expect about 2Mbits. (~600GB).

10-30-2002, 12:44 AM	#3
RMG Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 542	Its not for TGP submission. I would NEVER give those freeloaders movies on my bandwidth. 600gb on 10k movie gallery traffic? how the fuck do these people make their bills? at 1.00 per gb, you'd have to convert 1 out of every 600 gallery VISITS just to make back what you're spending.

10-30-2002, 12:56 AM	#6
Hustlin Entertainment So Fucking Banned Join Date: May 2002 Location: Nassau,Bahamas Posts: 2,326

10-30-2002, 12:58 AM	#7
RMG Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 542	I'm still having a hard time figuring out how this is profitable if you can burn 600gb per day...unless you pay like .43 per gb or something

10-30-2002, 01:04 AM	#12
m0rph3us Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Principality of Sealand Posts: 2,033	. I'll shut up also Last edited by m0rph3us; 10-30-2002 at 01:09 AM..

10-30-2002, 01:15 AM	#17
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	look, don't fuck with movie galleries. you'll lose your shirt!! __________________ we'll miss you our friend. RIP

10-30-2002, 01:22 AM	#18
Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	Nice sig quote Quiet. __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.

10-30-2002, 01:30 AM	#19
jollyperv Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NYC Posts: 3,927	Stick to pic galleries, we've got the movie galleries taken care of.

10-30-2002, 01:36 AM	#20
RMG Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 542	No, i'm not submitting these hehe. Aint got the balls for that. I just want to use this as a promotional tool for the movie traffic I have.

10-30-2002, 02:16 AM	#21
jollyperv Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NYC Posts: 3,927	just pokin' fun I wish you luck, you should definetely get someone to write a script to protect the movies from hotlinkers...it can be done with cookies, but then you'd be denying surfers who don't have them enabled. Or you could get a script that randomly renames the files every 30 minutes, not sure if anyone offers this but it probably wouldn't be too hard for someone to code. Good luck and don't believe the hype about cogent...

10-30-2002, 02:24 AM	#22
MichaelH Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ever heard of Grunnn??? Posts: 130	I use some kickass host which 100% protects my movies - htaccess + cookie support alone doesn't help. They've got some very special and bulletproof module installed against movies hotlinking. Hit me up on icq 146920758 for more details. Greetings, Michael

10-30-2002, 03:04 AM	#23
<IMX> Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 2,728	where is that movie webmaster site? __________________ $$$ Check out NICHE PAY the leader of Micro Niche Sites! They offer $1 Trials! $$$ $$$ Check out 10 FREE TRIAL SALES equals 1 FREE LAP TOP ! $$$

10-30-2002, 03:13 AM	#24
RMG Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 542	Anyone know a good program (free preferably) for cutting full movies into clips?

10-30-2002, 04:24 AM	#27
RMG Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 542	Hey jolly perv...can you contact me on icq? 141823362

10-30-2002, 05:50 AM	#28
BV wtf Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Bikini State, FL USA Posts: 10,914	Current In: 82.9 Mb/s (81.9%)

10-31-2002, 10:29 PM	#31
<IMX> Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 2,728	I got some more q's about movie galleries... I'm trying to grow some brass nuts How many clips to post? 3-10? What size? 200-1500kb What format? wmv v. mpeg Basically...what are the guidelines so you will get listed at MGPs? __________________ $$$ Check out NICHE PAY the leader of Micro Niche Sites! They offer $1 Trials! $$$ $$$ Check out 10 FREE TRIAL SALES equals 1 FREE LAP TOP ! $$$

11-01-2002, 01:27 AM	#32
FuzzBuzz Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Manchester Posts: 95	max 4 recips id say 300k+ any compression apart from divx