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Old 10-29-2002, 08:48 PM   #1
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oh shit check out this new GFY sponser

http://www.xites.com/demo.html


is this legal?
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Old 10-29-2002, 08:52 PM   #2
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Old 10-29-2002, 08:56 PM   #3
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Old 10-29-2002, 08:57 PM   #4
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I can see TGP owners doing this to all the galleries on their site, but I doubt it would be worth it. Random banners have an extremely low click-thru and they don't sell very well even when a surfer clicks through.
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Old 10-29-2002, 08:57 PM   #5
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Well it doesn't actually alter the google page. It sends the surfer through a proxy which in turn shows the banner on top while browsing a particular web site.
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Old 10-29-2002, 08:58 PM   #6
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I don't see anything illegal about it. But its definitely trouble. Just another reason for people to hate porn sites.
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Old 10-29-2002, 08:59 PM   #7
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Well it doesn't actually alter the google page. It sends the surfer through a proxy which in turn shows the banner on top while browsing a particular web site.
Indeed... just like how those anymous surf proxies add banners
to a page.. nothing illegal here..
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Old 10-29-2002, 09:05 PM   #8
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very compelling...

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Old 10-29-2002, 09:07 PM   #9
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dought it but i wish i came up with the idea.
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Hmm i dont even need a proxy, could do it with php. Anyone interested?
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Old 10-29-2002, 09:10 PM   #11
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good. the more annoying it is for people surfing for free porn the better.
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Old 10-29-2002, 09:13 PM   #12
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someone can steal space on your own website
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Old 10-29-2002, 09:15 PM   #13
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This is the next Gator
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Old 10-29-2002, 09:18 PM   #14
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3 out of 10 is a small percentage???
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Old 10-29-2002, 09:19 PM   #15
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The best investment for the geniuses who invented this would be a lawyer. The one internet trick that has been prosecuted by the FCC with some regularity is exactly what this program promises to do:

"when you try to follow a link to another site you are sent back to this page".
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Old 10-29-2002, 09:20 PM   #16
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good. the more annoying it is for people surfing for free porn the better.
Are you insane? It's not that simple. Just imagine surfing to Amateur Pages and seeing a big Chick Trick banner at the top. I bet Lens would LOVE that. And the affiliates too!
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Old 10-29-2002, 09:20 PM   #17
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illegal?? why?

you can also add f.e. a banner by a frameset... that's in fact the same result...
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Old 10-29-2002, 09:20 PM   #18
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is this legal?
google with the xit thing loads slow as shit for me.

Using XITES® you can insert your or your sponsor's banner code into the HTML code of other websites without the owners cooperation. Simply specify the location of your banner and the URL to link it to on our simple registration form and we will provide you with one simple line of code that you can add to the HTML code of your links.

After you add the XITES® code to your links the surfer will see your banner on top of every page he visits after passing through your website for the rest of his browsing session.

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Old 10-29-2002, 09:22 PM   #19
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illegal?? why?

you can also add f.e. a banner by a frameset... that's in fact the same result...
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Old 10-29-2002, 09:23 PM   #20
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is this legal?
Where did you find this ad?
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Old 10-29-2002, 09:26 PM   #21
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Where did you find this ad?
their advertsing on gfy
keep refreshing this page, youll see their banner
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Old 10-29-2002, 09:26 PM   #22
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WTF?? This type of shit is just getting worse every day. Goddamn parasites!
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Old 10-29-2002, 09:28 PM   #23
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Fight Geek with Geek.

Type in www.gibhar.com (my domain) into their box =)

http://www.xites.com/i?sssid=18&h=www.gibhar.com&url=/

More to come :P
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Old 10-29-2002, 09:28 PM   #24
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To summarize this...

Someone can send a surfer to our sites using this and
1. put their banner on top
2. remove our banners
3. disable our popups
4. people that click on our text links are sent back to their site
and, of course
5. filter adult content... LOL

Or am I missing something here?
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Old 10-29-2002, 09:28 PM   #25
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illegal?? why?

you can also add f.e. a banner by a frameset... that's in fact the same result...

its close and similar
but this shit hell of alot more intrusive
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it's different with frames. You can put a code to break out of frames automatically. If this xites things ends up getting pretty big, you'll see a lot of deep site hyperlinking laws being enforced.
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Old 10-29-2002, 09:32 PM   #27
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Are you insane? It's not that simple. Just imagine surfing to Amateur Pages and seeing a big Chick Trick banner at the top. I bet Lens would LOVE that. And the affiliates too!
that was in response to the re-direction - i was going to go on about CJ's etc.. banner replacing wouldn't really be annoying to the surfer only the webmaster who gets his ads replaced., so it doesn't really relate to what i said.. the banner thing is 100% fucked, thats a given... gator-like stuff is obviously wrong on many levels.

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Old 10-29-2002, 09:33 PM   #28
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this is so similar to that new microsoft thingie they was gonna add to the browser,, what was it called smart text or something like that,,,

all the negative press made them stop adding it to the browser
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Old 10-29-2002, 09:34 PM   #29
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believe me, these guys will end up getting sued to hell as soon as this program begins to take off
its quite simple really...you CANNOT alter the content of another website witout their permision, and that is what these guys are basically doing. Its a great idea, but it will never stand up in court. Any lawyer with half a brain can screw these guys over. It is only a matter of time.
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Old 10-29-2002, 09:37 PM   #30
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LOL
http://x1.bz/i?sssid=10&h=www.google.com

i am sure the google folks won't be to happy
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This is so unoriginal it's not funny... all they have is a page being requested through their page and a banner is being added to the top and the urls changed...

All I know is that it sucks to be them when it comes time to pay the bandwith bill...
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3 out of 10 is a small percentage???

hahahaha
it seems some people failed in maths!
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Old 10-29-2002, 09:39 PM   #34
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Are you insane? It's not that simple. Just imagine surfing to Amateur Pages and seeing a big Chick Trick banner at the top. I bet Lens would LOVE that. And the affiliates too!
check it out
http://x1.bz/i?sssid=20&h=www.amateurpages.com
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Only other advantage they have on inserting banners into other peoples site is that they'll be able to track as well, but i can never see it taking off...
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Again, the main point is being missed....the program can replace banners AND it can do this:

"when you try to follow a link to another site you are sent back to this page". This IS illegal and there are cases on record showing successful prosecution by the FCC.
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Their php script gets the page, inserts their banner (VERY crudely), and gives you the output.

1) All requests go through their server... which requests the document.... then displays to surfer (so x2 as sloooow minimum).

2) they can spoof the referer with this, (currently set to http://)

3) they can't spoof the IP they request the page from.

4) If you have their IPs, you can block this.

http://www.xites.com/i?sssid=18&h=www.gibhar.com&url=/

:-)

ta da.
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:-)

ta da.
haha,, is this some kinda of new niche?
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Again, the main point is being missed....the program can replace banners AND it can do this:

"when you try to follow a link to another site you are sent back to this page". This IS illegal and there are cases on record showing successful prosecution by the FCC.
You are correct. Someone is not very smart, (just fucking stupid ) 2 ever think they will get away with this. Who has reported them to the FCC? Man some people.... how much does an ad cost on GFY and were else do they have ad's.... Wasted money.. and most likly wil cost them a shit pot more after the FCC see's what that page does.. Stupid is stupid does.
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haha,, is this some kinda of new niche?
All the models are availible for custom work, but i cannot guarentee they are all 18 (human) years old .

;)



In my opinion, they have wasted $3k advertising on GFY, and God knows how much paying a programmer to write that piece of tripe.

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Old 10-29-2002, 10:22 PM   #42
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Doesn't work as cool in Netscape (the image is not replaced with my kinky one) as in IE. This is because my javascript here is not written to check for Netscape.

I've got an htaccess file in the www.gibhar.com root as follows:

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RewriteCond %{REMOTE_ADDR} 66.181.168.117
RewriteRule .* http://adult.gibhar.com/fuckxites.html
Where the IP address used is their server/s's IP, and the url is a url to redirect such requests to.

ie, all hits to www.gibhar.com from that IP get sent to the other URL.

On that URL, there is javascript to replace the image with my own image.

I've not seen their other 'features' like exit traffic stealing, but i'm pretty sure it would be possible to write Javascript to counter it.

Bottom line is you can either redirect all requests from Xites to another URL, or you can 'steal' their banner/features with your own.
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Type in www.gibhar.com (my domain) into their box =)

http://www.xites.com/i?sssid=18&h=www.gibhar.com&url=/

More to come :P
0wned!

But this Xites thing is seriously fucked up. Altering the content of someone else's website is just fucked up, whether it's done via proxy or not. You're basically taking a site's adspace and using it for your own advantage, without giving the webmaster a dime. No way in hell this shit is legal.

Also, this thing makes many sites simply <i>unuseable</i>.

For example: http://www.xites.com/i?sssid=18&h=ww...soft.com&url=/

Click on any link, and you'll get microsoft's custom 404 page. Totally fucked up.

So, not only does it insert banners onto other people's websites, it essentially makes them unuseable in the way they were intended. Fuck this program. Fuck the people that started it.

One can only hope you get sued ASAP.
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Kman, good to see you stick up to your friends. But do not kid yourself, it will not last. I am sure someone is already working on ways of protecting sites from it, and FTC may have something to say as well.

But who knows, Kman may be working for his friend next!
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"page cannot be found."
opening up NOV 1st

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I dont get nothing but 404s or a big "I LOVE XITES" image on a blank page for any of the links posted in this thread
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http://www.adultrevenueservice.com/n...tosupdate.html

"New Terms Of Service Addition to ARS

The site "xites.com" was brought to my attention last week by a concerned webmaster. Upon checking this site, it appears that by using this program, it will begin a session on the surfer?s browser that could place a banner at the top of every subsequent page that the surfer goes to after the session begins. It can also change links on the followed pages as well as referral codes. ARS WILL NOT accept traffic / signups that are generated using this program / method and/or by altering in any way the html code of other websites without the owner of that site?s cooperation. If you do this, your account(s) will be terminated.

Please review the terms of service, as they have been changed to incorporate the above restrictions."

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