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shermo 09-05-2008 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14714091)
You have a Nielsen box?
Thanks for pointing out the flaw in the Nielsen rating system. :thumbsup

Like all the polls, etc...Nielsen is just a sampling of the population and when numbers are as close as they are, it's hard to say who the clear winner is and WHY people were watching. Palin had truckloads of viewers because nobody knows about her, and I'm sure many men with a MILF fetish watched it to fap.

Do you really believe that the lead in from the NFL season opener didn't help it at all? Come on... Most people after a game, leave their TV's on while they drink with the boys. :2 cents:

The interesting part would be to see what the difference was between the 2 NBC ratings.

Regardless, who gives a rats ass. In November, we'll all see who the winner is, and we'll proceed to hear half the country bitch either way about how bad the president is. :Oh crap

Brujah 09-05-2008 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by sherm (Post 14714133)
Do you really believe that the lead in from the NFL season opener didn't help it at all? Come on... Most people after a game, leave their TV's on while they drink with the boys. :2 cents:
No, baddog lieberman is 100% right. You're the only one in the country who ever leaves their TV on after a show. Duh!

baddog 09-05-2008 03:46 PM
I thought I saw that the game was on at the same time as the speech.

EmpireAutopilot 09-05-2008 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14712966)
No agenda there I guess. At least she doesn't try to hide it.

I would think her sponsors would be pissed considering her speech at the RNC had 2 million more viewers than Obama's.
I would think the sponsors would not give a flying fuck since McCain won't let Palin do ANY interviews with anyone before the election is over.

baddog 09-05-2008 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 14714112)
It spoke volumes to me. He plans to fight for all types of things, including more war, clearly he thinks Russia is a problem, we already know about Iran, and Iraq.

What else did he mean?
This is where I think we disagree. You think he wants more war. I think he knows war and wants to avoid it if possible.

This is a major problem I have with Obama. I don't think someone with no military experience truly understands, and I really have a problem putting someone like that as the Commander-in-Chief of our military.

Brujah 09-05-2008 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14714191)
This is where I think we disagree. You think he wants more war. I think he knows war and wants to avoid it if possible.

This is a major problem I have with Obama. I don't think someone with no military experience truly understands, and I really have a problem putting someone like that as the Commander-in-Chief of our military.
Like George W. Bush?

baddog 09-05-2008 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 14714196)
Like George W. Bush?
To a certain degree, yes. I did not vote for him either.

Brujah 09-05-2008 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14714200)
To a certain degree, yes. I did not vote for him either.
You liked John Edwards as a Presidential candidate if I remember. He has no military experience.

baddog 09-05-2008 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 14714208)
You liked John Edwards as a Presidential candidate if I remember. He has no military experience.
I liked him because I felt he was more electable than Obama or Clinton. Is it my fault that the Democrats give so little in the way of options?

TheDoc 09-05-2008 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14714191)
This is where I think we disagree. You think he wants more war. I think he knows war and wants to avoid it if possible.

This is a major problem I have with Obama. I don't think someone with no military experience truly understands, and I really have a problem putting someone like that as the Commander-in-Chief of our military.
While Officers are trained in military battle tactics, much like the Combat guy learns those tactics on the ground directly, neither know each others tactics. Being in the Military, unless maybe you were a General that did these types of things, I don't think you are going to "really" get anyone qualified to lead our entire country into war.

They all have advisers, round tables of lots of people and if done legally - congress and the support of the entire Country.

notoldschool 09-05-2008 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14714191)
This is where I think we disagree. You think he wants more war. I think he knows war and wants to avoid it if possible.
this is where we disagree.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=hAzBxFaio1I

baddog 09-05-2008 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 14714233)
this is where we disagree.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=hAzBxFaio1I
Obama wants to go after Iran as well. In fact, last night I heard he voted 85/85 times with Bush on matters concerning Iraq.

baddog 09-05-2008 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 14714231)
While Officers are trained in military battle tactics, much like the Combat guy learns those tactics on the ground directly, neither know each others tactics. Being in the Military, unless maybe you were a General that did these types of things, I don't think you are going to "really" get anyone qualified to lead our entire country into war.

They all have advisers, round tables of lots of people and if done legally - congress and the support of the entire Country.
I guess my point was lost on you. That's okay, was expected.

xxweekxx 09-05-2008 04:21 PM
baddog you are an old white man..

99&#37; of your "kind" are racist fucks... we know you dont want OBAMA cuz he is black.. quit with the BS about not sure about war, etc.. Obama's IQ is in triple digits.. MCcain is in double digits..

Im tired of people making excuses. ITS OK to be a racist old white fuck, 99% of you old white men are anyway..

Why anyone will leave their party and go vote for other party is beyond me..

Democratic ideals and republican ideals are completely opposite.. Any democrat shouldnt even be debating about what party to vote for..

ehh i give up

TheDoc 09-05-2008 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14714256)
I guess my point was lost on you. That's okay, was expected.
I got your point, you think a man that was in the military has experience over a man that has none. And I was saying, it doesn't make a difference because everything is fed to them, from the tactics, to when and how.

It takes a smart man that can see the entire picture, help guide and plan but listens to the people that specialize in the art of war. I really think both, can do the job equally as well.

McCain probably would have an edge with dealing with upper military, moving military, ect. But yesterdays war tactics are very different from todays - both will have to learn a lot.

More U.S. funded/backed Wars isn't going to help a damn thing. We need world support, we need world peace. We need to stop what we are doing before we can't fight anymore.

We are wide open to attack from anyone right now, we are more unprotected than ever!

We have to try diplomacy, we have to use world diplomacy, and use war as an absolute last resort. We started in a good path quickly abused our global power.

I'm for who is going to stop that abuse. Ron Paul! hehe..

acctman 09-05-2008 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by robfantasy (Post 14712766)
I hate oprah..

im glad she is finally being exposed for the ****** that she really is.

she has spit in the face of white women across america who have brought her fame and fortune.


non black obama supporters... WAKE UP CANT U SEE THE REAL AGENDA HERE

What does RACE have to do with anything. She's a Obama supporter, why would she have Palin on? Its her show, and her company... Maybe you're just racist yourself

Violetta 09-05-2008 04:26 PM
I hate her... But I still hope that obama wins!

acctman 09-05-2008 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by The Adult Broker (Post 14714070)
i don't usually remark on this topic but.... I have always thought that Oprah was a fake. giving money to schools elsewhere but not to the very people in America and our kids who helped her become the 'star' she is. So many examples, too little time to write them all.

and to be honest, she is a terrible interviewer. her brand is what keeps her going. I never cared for her. She is not real. never was.

Palin, she is one feisty woman who I think saved the Republican ticket. I never watch the RNC or DNC stuff, but I did this time and man-she rocked!
everyone has there own opinion of others but you dont have the entire picture. Oprah did offer money to US school "FIRST" but when she asked the students what they wanted she got responses like "ipods" and "digital cams" so she decided to give her money to kids that would appericate it more.

If I had oprah's money i'd do the same, most Americans are ungrateful no matter what you try to do there is always a majority of ungrateful people wanting more or saying you haven't done enough.

Manny_Kaye 09-05-2008 04:33 PM
I promiss you Obama will win . :BangBang:

xxweekxx 09-05-2008 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by acctman (Post 14714345)
everyone has there own opinion of others but you dont have the entire picture. Oprah did offer money to US school "FIRST" but when she asked the students what they wanted she got responses like "ipods" and "digital cams" so she decided to give her money to kids that would appericate it more.

If I had oprah's money i'd do the same, most Americans are ungrateful no matter what you try to do there is always a majority of ungrateful people wanting more or saying you haven't done enough.
yup true that.. im african AND american.. parents african, but was born here.. and you are 100% correct..

I go to Africa once in a while and people are JUST way more grateful... You could give someone a loaf of bread and they'll thank you OVER and OVER and thank you everyday.. give an american a loaf of bread.. :error

yeah i know its the conditions there but still... i would rather help some africans too

mikeyddddd 09-05-2008 04:35 PM

Drake 09-05-2008 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by EmpireAutopilot (Post 14714195)
I would think the sponsors would not give a flying fuck since McCain won't let Palin do ANY interviews with anyone before the election is over.
Good point and it would probably be a smart move for McCain. I wonder how much we'll see of her. Her favorable rating is very good among Repubs, Dems, and unaffiliated groups right now.

Drake 09-05-2008 04:38 PM
With regard to military, security, and safety.

Why is America's southern border wide open? Fighting those terrorists across the Atlantic in Iraq (which was already an anti-Muslim stronghold under Saddam) makes more sense than defense on America's very own territory.

dav3 09-05-2008 04:54 PM
oprah and palin are both dumb cunts

Drake 09-05-2008 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike33 (Post 14714385)
With regard to military, security, and safety.

Why is America's southern border wide open? Fighting those terrorists across the Atlantic in Iraq (which was already an anti-Muslim stronghold under Saddam) makes more sense than defense on America's very own territory.
Edit: Not anti-Muslim, anti-terrorist/insurgent stronghold

shermo 09-05-2008 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14714175)
I thought I saw that the game was on at the same time as the speech.
Nope. It was immediately after, and NBC made use of the halftime show to show the festivities at the the GOP convention. It was pretty much force fed, since it couldn't be avoided if you kept the TV on during halftime, and strayed away after to crack open a beer with the boys. :1orglaugh

Snake Doctor 09-05-2008 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14714191)
This is where I think we disagree. You think he wants more war. I think he knows war and wants to avoid it if possible.

This is a major problem I have with Obama. I don't think someone with no military experience truly understands, and I really have a problem putting someone like that as the Commander-in-Chief of our military.
But if John Edwards were the Democratic nominee then you would vote for him?

I'm fairly certain that's what you said before....and I do know for sure you voted for him in the primary.


Also, if your main issue is someone wanting to avoid war, why not support the guy who was against the war from day 1 as opposed to the guy who was for it, said it would be easy and not take very long?

GatorB 09-05-2008 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by robfantasy (Post 14712906)
career suicide
Oh no! How will she live with no career and only $3 BILLION in the bank?

pocketkangaroo 09-05-2008 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14714191)
This is where I think we disagree. You think he wants more war. I think he knows war and wants to avoid it if possible.

This is a major problem I have with Obama. I don't think someone with no military experience truly understands, and I really have a problem putting someone like that as the Commander-in-Chief of our military.
But McCain is someone who voted for the war, who supported the occupation of Iraq. While I understand what you're saying, McCain and his military experience will go down as supporting one of the greatest blunders in our nation's history.

Sausage 09-05-2008 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by sortie (Post 14713071)
Do you really believe that Palin has the kind of pull on tv that Obama has.

That "show" is a business you know.

And how do you give a "fair" interview without ripping into Palin about promoting
abstinence as the only sex education and it failed on her own daughter.

Not really that good of an idea for Oprah, she either has to ignore all the negative
buzz during the interview and look like a phony or bring the issues up and look like
an attacker.

You also probably should remember that Ophra's show is in Chicago!
She knew about Obama for a long time. He's an illinois senator.
Good local promo for Oprah to have Obama on but I don't think she
is going to sweat all those billions of Alaska viewers. :1orglaugh

Chicago city population is about five times larger than the entire state of Alaska.


BTW : I'm sick of Ophrah too. But I don't make stuff up to make my point.
I think you missed the point ...

Oprah said she didn't want to use her show to push a political agenda, though she had Obama on and HAS been using her show and her status to push an agenda. Hypocrit much ?

pocketkangaroo 09-05-2008 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Sausage (Post 14715718)
I think you missed the point ...

Oprah said she didn't want to use her show to push a political agenda, though she had Obama on and HAS been using her show and her status to push an agenda. Hypocrit much ?
Perhaps, but it's her show, her rules. That's all that matters.

Odin 09-06-2008 03:54 AM
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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14714247)
Obama wants to go after Iran as well. In fact, last night I heard he voted 85/85 times with Bush on matters concerning Iraq.
You guys are tools. Do you think Obama even decides? lol. Honestly have a look at Obama's quotes only a year or so ago addressing Palestinian and Arab-American's regarding Jerusalem, peace, etc and than compare it to the line he promotes today. A President has some ability to push their agenda, but more or less that ability only remains, or comes to fruition, if the push the agenda that the powers that be (AIPAC and Zionists on this issue) decide on the issues they care about. Believe me Iran is a non-issue, because it is something the Zionist lobbies, etc aren't willing to budge on, and one way or another an attack on Iran will be sanctioned WHOEVER is President. You think the Zionists in the media and the lobbies hadn't sized up Obama long ago? And decided not to character assassinate him beyond return? Hell if he was heading towards being President and they knew he wouldn't attack or sanction an attack on Iran it is without a doubt some 'redneck' (but of course) would vote from the rooftops against him.

Owner 09-06-2008 04:04 AM
She should go on The View so they can talk about her retard baby and pregnant whore daughter.

commonsense 09-06-2008 04:05 AM
All you idiots need to remember that Obama and McCain are running against each other, NOT Palin. That fact seems to be lost in every discussion.

D Ghost 09-06-2008 04:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 14712785)
You watch Oprah?
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

xenigo 09-06-2008 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 14713451)
I agree with this idea.

However, being a Conservative does not mean you aren't a Liberal. They are two totally different things that the right tries to merge into one due to personal stupidity.

I'm very Conservative when it comes to the Gov. I actually don't see how anyone could be anything but Conservative, it's how you run a business, it makes total logic.

Being Liberal, is a personal thing, not a Gov view it's a state level thing. I'm personally Liberal and think people should be allowed more Liberal rights.

Savage ranks #1 on personal stupidly calling Liberalism a mental disorder. Just the title alone yells volumes at how disillusioned the right can really be on such a basic subject. To these people, if you don't agree on abortion (ie: all views), you are left ie: liberal. Even if all other views are right, that's the real mental disorder going on.


Don't let the words fool you. It's okay to be a Conservative Liberal. Wanting a small gov, with less control, more power to the state, to help individual rights. I feel that is the basic idea of our Country.

This is my perspective exactly. But the association of the label "conservative" is typically "Right-Wing Christian Psycho"... and I am most certainly anti-religion, and anti-brainwashing.

So I prefer the liberal label alone. :)

spanky part 2 09-06-2008 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by robfantasy (Post 14712978)
but obama was on
It's her fucking show and she can have whoever the fuck she wants on it. It's her show, with her name on it.

Not everyone is a mouthpiece for the republican party. You already have that fat fuck Rush, the fag in hiding Hannity, and that sex crazed fool Bill O.

Don't watch Oprah if you don't like it.

Shouldn't you be working when she is on anyway.:1orglaugh

GatorB 09-06-2008 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by commonsense (Post 14716101)
All you idiots need to remember that Obama and McCain are running against each other, NOT Palin. That fact seems to be lost in every discussion.
You forget that McCain is OLD and has CANCER and that 1 out of every 5 presidents has died/resigned from office early.

GatorB 09-06-2008 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by xenigo (Post 14716183)
This is my perspective exactly. But the association of the label "conservative" is typically "Right-Wing Christian Psycho"... and I am most certainly anti-religion, and anti-brainwashing.

So I prefer the liberal label alone. :)
The GOP has been hi-jacked by the Jesus freaks. Those that actually believe in true republicanism of less government etc should join the Libertarian party.

As long as the GOP can convince inbred rednecks that the Dems want to take away their guns, force them to have abortina dn into agay marriage and turn them into atheists then they will vote for teh GOP even if it means allowing the GOP to enocurage companies to move jobs to China and allow what few jobs are left to find to either hire you for minimum wage or turn a blind eye to companies hiring illegals for $3 an hour.

Of course white trash is poor for a reason. Perhaps they should think about that.

Joe BrainCash 09-06-2008 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14713214)
You have no room to talk. :2 cents:
Really? Because I'm Canadian? Baddog, you should know better. This election has huge repercussion in Canada and in the rest of the world. It's true I won't be voting, but we follow the campaign every day on the news here too. Not more, not less than in the USA ( even in the French news!!). This is a public forum and I can express my opinion, That's how it is.

If it's because you meant that I'm also biaised (following your quote), maybe I share the Democrats values (as most of the Eastern half in Canada:Ontario, Quebec, the Maritimes)more but I meant that Rob is being over-enthusiastic about the Republicans lately. It was not an anti-Republican reply. I mean as much as don't like Oprah all that much, saying she's done because she won't have Palin on her show before the election is just over-enthusiastic don't you think?


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