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TheDoc 09-05-2008 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by robfantasy (Post 14713104)
u do know palins speech had more viewers than obamas speech

she is also more popular to the oprah demographic than obama

so business wise, palin is a better choice

Are you trying to pass lies and stupidity on GFY?

1) Palin pulled in more views than Biden. Which is logical because nobody knew who the hell Palin was or still is. I have known about Biden for a long time, like post people that follow politics. She did not pull more views than Obama.

2) You have no idea who is more popular to Oprah. You assume so, until Oprah starts to ask hard questions, about teen pregnancy, that will piss off half the stupid women that already planned on voting for McCain anyway. Your logic is so flawed.

3) Really business wise? Again, a lie. Most major U.S. Corps have already thrown support to Obama, they are ready for change so they can get back into the money loops that this Pres cut them out from.


Anymore bullshit you would like to spew?

Drake 09-05-2008 11:33 AM

I'd love to see Palin on Oprah. They're both religious kooks with polar opposite agendas, and believe God serves those agendas.

Britceleb 09-05-2008 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robfantasy (Post 14713104)
she is also more popular to the oprah demographic than obama

Please tell me where you get this information from? I dont understand how all of a sudden a person who was relatively unknown is now more popular than a man who pulled 200,000 people in europe for a speech. Please let me know how you think that Palin could even come close to this.

Cyndalie 09-05-2008 11:38 AM

Oprah should be concerned with ratings and nothing else.

robfantasy 09-05-2008 11:38 AM

im just making an observation.

oprahs fan base is middle aged white women.

the gop strategist are absolutely genius.

they know oprah would never have palin on her show.

CherryV 09-05-2008 11:40 AM

As a non-American I just really hope that Obama wins. Not that I care about Obama but you see what has happened in the world with the Republicans in power over the Democrats.

So if Oprah's censorship of the republicans takes the democrats to victory and the world can go back to normal I am all for it.

my :2cents

robfantasy 09-05-2008 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 14713260)
Are you trying to pass lies and stupidity on GFY?

1) Palin pulled in more views than Biden. Which is logical because nobody knew who the hell Palin was or still is. I have known about Biden for a long time, like post people that follow politics. She did not pull more views than Obama.

2) You have no idea who is more popular to Oprah. You assume so, until Oprah starts to ask hard questions, about teen pregnancy, that will piss off half the stupid women that already planned on voting for McCain anyway. Your logic is so flawed.

3) Really business wise? Again, a lie. Most major U.S. Corps have already thrown support to Obama, they are ready for change so they can get back into the money loops that this Pres cut them out from.


Anymore bullshit you would like to spew?

oprahs viewers are middle aged white women

business wise, palin would be a perfect choice to have on her show because of the RATINGS

baddog 09-05-2008 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Britceleb (Post 14713289)
Please tell me where you get this information from? I dont understand how all of a sudden a person who was relatively unknown is now more popular than a man who pulled 200,000 people in europe for a speech. Please let me know how you think that Palin could even come close to this.

Well, considering Obama has had 4 years to become known internationally, and Palin has had a week, I would think it is a pretty safe bet that the Republicans may have stumbled onto something.

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(ST. PAUL) Sarah Palin was unknown to the public just a week ago, but it's going to be hard to say that about her anymore. The ratings from her speech at the Republican National Convention are in, and it's now clear just how all the buzz about her translated big time into viewership for the Republican convention.

According to Nielsen, 37.2 million people watched the speech on six networks (ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, FOX News Channel, and MSNBC). That is just 1.1 million less than watched Obama's speech last Thursday night. Compare that to the estimated 24 million who watched Democratic VP nominee Joe Biden's speech last Wednesday night. You can also compare that to the about 34 million who watched the opening of the Beijing Olympics last month, 32 million who watched this year's Oscars and 31.7 million who watched last spring's American Idol finale.

According to Nielsen, Palin also attracted 19.5 million women, which is 4.9 million more than watched Biden. And 1.4 million Hispanic viewers watched, which is more than the 1.2 million who watched day 3 of the Democratic convention, even though Univision and Telemundo did not carry Palin's speech last night. In fact, it's also of note that Palin's speech was carried by four less networks than Obama's speech (BET and TV One also showed Obama).

pornguy 09-05-2008 11:53 AM

Orca is an ignorant cunt.

TheDoc 09-05-2008 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by robfantasy (Post 14713326)
oprahs viewers are middle aged white women

business wise, palin would be a perfect choice to have on her show because of the RATINGS

The women she will piss off are the people that will already vote for McCain, everyone else could give a shit less.

Ratings isn't always about getting viewers. She may get people to watch, but if she asks the wrong questions, she may piss off more people than she makes happy. If that was the case her ratings would go down.

So, if it's about ratings, she would avoid Palin. Now if she asks for Bidin to come on and not Palin, that's fucked. But Palin isn't running for President and Obama is. Maybe that is the difference? McCain should ask to go on Oprah.

LiveDose 09-05-2008 11:56 AM

She's the boss. She can do whatever she wants. Who gives a flying fuck?

Barefootsies 09-05-2008 11:57 AM

Oprah is a talk show host. Not a politician.

:2 cents:

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 09-05-2008 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by robfantasy (Post 14712812)
BIG DILEMMA: OPRAH BALKS AT HOSTING SARAH PALIN; STAFF DIVIDED
Fri Sep 05 2008 08:55:46 ET

Oprah Winfrey may have introduced Democrat Barack Obama to the women of America -- but the talkshow queen is not rushing to embrace the first woman on a Republican presidential ticket!

Oprah's staff is sharply divided on the merits of booking Sarah Palin, sources tell the DRUDGE REPORT.

"Half of her staff really wants Sarah Palin on," an insider explains. "Oprah's website is getting tons of requests to put her on, but Oprah and a couple of her top people are adamantly against it because of Obama."

One executive close to Winfrey is warning any Palin ban could ignite a dramatic backlash!

It is not clear if Oprah has softened her position after watching Palin's historic convention speech.

Last year, Winfrey blocked an appearance by Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, timed to a promotional tour of his autobiography.

Oprah and executive producer Sheri Salata, who has contributed thousands of dollars to Obama's campaign, refused requests for comment.

Developing...

Oprah is not a sell out.
She didnt do Clearence THomas either as pointed out in that. It is more about her political views more than the money. Oprah has made a wise decision if ya ask me. Think I will have to watch her show now.

ABout time the Liberal base raises a hand and say's STFU to Conservatives.
Oprah is a core liberal, putting Palin on the show would do nothing but bolster Republican support and mislead house wives to believe Palin is some sort of Liberal when she is anything but a liberal.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 09-05-2008 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 14713376)
Oprah is a talk show host. Not a politician.

:2 cents:

Media and politics are tied to the hip dude just like bible beaters are tied to the hip of politics as well. Both segments of our social society should have no bearing on either and according to the constitution in one of cases is to be separate in regards to church and state.

Media is supposed to be unbiased and the Church is supposed to be separate from politics.
But we know thats all bullshit these days.

TheDoc 09-05-2008 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ (Post 14713397)
ABout time the Liberal base raises a hand and say's STFU to Conservatives.

I agree with this idea.

However, being a Conservative does not mean you aren't a Liberal. They are two totally different things that the right tries to merge into one due to personal stupidity.

I'm very Conservative when it comes to the Gov. I actually don't see how anyone could be anything but Conservative, it's how you run a business, it makes total logic.

Being Liberal, is a personal thing, not a Gov view it's a state level thing. I'm personally Liberal and think people should be allowed more Liberal rights.

Savage ranks #1 on personal stupidly calling Liberalism a mental disorder. Just the title alone yells volumes at how disillusioned the right can really be on such a basic subject. To these people, if you don't agree on abortion (ie: all views), you are left ie: liberal. Even if all other views are right, that's the real mental disorder going on.


Don't let the words fool you. It's okay to be a Conservative Liberal. Wanting a small gov, with less control, more power to the state, to help individual rights. I feel that is the basic idea of our Country.

Snake Doctor 09-05-2008 12:15 PM

Ok so first Obama is done because you liked McCain's speech...and now Oprah, a woman who has a higher net worth than alot of countries in the world, is supposedly done because she doesn't want to book Palin?

So basically everyone you don't like or disagree with is "done"?

sortie 09-05-2008 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14713330)
Well, considering Obama has had 4 years to become known internationally, and Palin has had a week, I would think it is a pretty safe bet that the Republicans may have stumbled onto something.

Get a grip. Everybody tuned in hoping to get a glimpse of the sweet plump teen
that got pregnant. :1orglaugh

TubeTitans_SusieQ 09-05-2008 01:05 PM

wow, i dont even watch oprah

Gouge 09-05-2008 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 14713260)
Are you trying to pass lies and stupidity on GFY?

1) Palin pulled in more views than Biden. Which is logical because nobody knew who the hell Palin was or still is. I have known about Biden for a long time, like post people that follow politics. She did not pull more views than Obama.

2) You have no idea who is more popular to Oprah. You assume so, until Oprah starts to ask hard questions, about teen pregnancy, that will piss off half the stupid women that already planned on voting for McCain anyway. Your logic is so flawed.

3) Really business wise? Again, a lie. Most major U.S. Corps have already thrown support to Obama, they are ready for change so they can get back into the money loops that this Pres cut them out from.


Anymore bullshit you would like to spew?

Actually both McCain and Palin drew in more viewers.

Palin had just over 40 million.

An audience of 37.2 million people watched Palin on ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, Fox News Channel and MSNBC, Nielsen Media Research said Thursday. PBS estimated its audience at 3.9 million, based on a less reliable sample of several big cities. Nielsen does not count the audience for C-SPAN, which also showed the speech.

Last week, Nielsen said 38.4 million people watched Obama speak at a Denver stadium on the six commercial networks, along with BET, TV One, Univision and Telemundo - four networks that didn't cover Palin's speech. PBS added an estimated 4 million to that total.

Palin - 37.2 + 3.9 = 41.1 Million viewers.

Sen. McCain?s speech ended the night with a 4.8 rating/7 share - 38.9 million viewers.
Sen. Obama?s speech ended the night with a 4.3 rating/7 share - 38.3 million viewers.

PBS has already predicted there number for McCain will be around 2.5 million, that bring the number up to 41.4 million viewers.

Someone has to ask the question of why cant Barack Hussein Obama seal the deal and why didnt the DNC get the 8-12 pts jump in the polls that was predicted.

Drake 09-05-2008 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Gouge (Post 14713740)
Actually both McCain and Palin drew in more viewers.

Palin had just over 40 million.

An audience of 37.2 million people watched Palin on ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, Fox News Channel and MSNBC, Nielsen Media Research said Thursday. PBS estimated its audience at 3.9 million, based on a less reliable sample of several big cities. Nielsen does not count the audience for C-SPAN, which also showed the speech.

Last week, Nielsen said 38.4 million people watched Obama speak at a Denver stadium on the six commercial networks, along with BET, TV One, Univision and Telemundo - four networks that didn't cover Palin's speech. PBS added an estimated 4 million to that total.

Palin - 37.2 + 3.9 = 41.1 Million viewers.

Sen. McCain?s speech ended the night with a 4.8 rating/7 share - 38.9 million viewers.
Sen. Obama?s speech ended the night with a 4.3 rating/7 share - 38.3 million viewers.

PBS has already predicted there number for McCain will be around 2.5 million, that bring the number up to 41.4 million viewers.

Someone has to ask the question of why cant Barack Hussein Obama seal the deal and why didnt the DNC get the 8-12 pts jump in the polls that was predicted.


McCain's speech drew more without the PBS estimate. Obama's drew more than Palin's by your own numbers.

Without the PBS estimate
http://blog.nielsen.com/nielsenwire/...aking-ratings/

Obama: 38.3 million
McCain: 38.9 million

With the PBS esimate you cited, Obama would come out on top:

Palin: 37.2 + 3.9 = 41.1 million
Obama: 38.3 + 4.0 = 42.3 million
McCain: 38.9 + 2.5 = 41.4 million

Obama can't seal the deal because he's a new face and people are rightfully apprehensive about a guy they know little about, has had questionable associations, whom 12% of voters still believes he's Muslim, and who doesn't have the long history and experience which would be ideal. The hard fought primaries and disaffected Clinton supporters probably play a role as well.

From what I recall, the DNC did give him a 10 point boost but this was muted by Palin which gave McCain an 8 point boost effectively keeping the gap identical.

Gouge 09-05-2008 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike33 (Post 14713857)
McCain's speech drew more without the PBS estimate. Obama's drew more than Palin's by your own numbers.

Without the PBS estimate
http://blog.nielsen.com/nielsenwire/...aking-ratings/

Obama: 38.3 million
McCain: 38.9 million

With the PBS esimate you cited, Obama would come out on top:

Palin: 37.2 + 3.9 = 41.1 million
Obama: 38.3 + 4.0 = 42.3 million
McCain: 38.9 + 2.5 = 41.4 million

Obama can't seal the deal because he's a new face and people are rightfully apprehensive about a guy they know little about, has had questionable associations, whom 12% of voters still believes he's Muslim, and who doesn't have the long history and experience which would be ideal. The hard fought primaries and disaffected Clinton supporters probably play a role as well.

From what I recall, the DNC did give him a 10 point boost but this was muted by Palin which gave McCain an 8 point boost effectively keeping the gap identical.

I'm sure once Nielsen and PBS come out with the official numbers which will be a few days away it will show the RNC > DNC. Until then ill stick with the good RNC numbers im seeing.

Barack Hussein Obama has had 4 uninterrupted years to seal the deal, if he cant get it done by now he never will. The overall DNC point jump was only by 5, almost everyone predicted it would be between 8-12 and hold steady for at least a week.

BVF 09-05-2008 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by robfantasy (Post 14713305)
im just making an observation.

oprahs fan base is middle aged white women.

the gop strategist are absolutely genius.

they know oprah would never have palin on her show.

Yeah they're geniouses all right....They gathered in a Republican strategist meeting and said:

"Let's pick Palin because Oprah would NEVER have her on the show"..

TheDoc 09-05-2008 02:42 PM

What if.... What if.... almost the same amount of people, a major group of the same people, all watched Obama, Palin, and McCain. It's very possible.

I know myself, Kristin and both sets of parents watched all 3 as well. Myself and Kristin watched all three online, so we aren't part of the numbers above but did watch. I watched Bidin on YouTube the day after he spoke. I skipped anything that had Clinton on the end of it.


Out of everything all three of them said. I remember one thing McCain said: Fight, fight fight, fight for this, fight for that, fight for country, stand up and fight, stand up stand up, fight fight fight. We are Americans, we never give up, we never quit, we never hide from history we make history!

I'm sure the Majority of those 40ish million people, know exactly what that means for America.

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE 09-05-2008 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 14712908)
Your own? Yes, I'd agree.

I also agree

its amazing how much ignorance and hatred has surfaced as a result of this election cycle.

The OP even states that oprah also blocked clarence thomas who is black

why on earth would she help to promote someone she completely disagrees with

OP put on ignore for being a little slow

SuzzyQ 09-05-2008 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14712966)
No agenda there I guess. At least she doesn't try to hide it.

I would think her sponsors would be pissed considering her speech at the RNC had 2 million more viewers than Obama's.

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

SuzzyQ 09-05-2008 02:52 PM

McCain Tops Obama?s Record-Breaking Ratings
September 5th, 2008 Posted in Media & Entertainment, Nielsen News, Politics

On Thursday night, John McCain?s acceptance speech at the Republican National Convention bested Barack Obama?s record-breaking viewership numbers from last week by 500,000 viewers.

More than 38.9 million people tuned in to coverage of the final night of the GOP convention. In comparison, Obama?s acceptance speech at the Democratic convention drew 38.4 million viewers.

For the third night in a row, more women (19.2 million) than men (17.9 million) watched the RNC coverage. Still, McCain?s speech drew significantly more men than Obama?s acceptance speech (16.2 million). In contrast, Obama drew more women (19.9 million) than McCain (19.2 million).

White viewers also flocked to their TV?s for McCain?s speech (32.2 million vs. 27 million for Obama). But among African Americans, the reverse was true: 7.5 million African Americans watched Obama?s speech last week, while just 3.1 million tuned in for McCain?s speech.

http://blog.nielsen.com/nielsenwire/...aking-ratings/

MattO 09-05-2008 02:56 PM

If the numbers for the RNC are more than the DNC it's probably because many Republicans can't bring themselves to watch the DNC without having a fit, while Dems will tune into the RNC for a chuckle.

Brujah 09-05-2008 03:00 PM

I'm confused. Do I vote for the guy who gets the most TV ratings now? Or do I vote for the speechwriters? The ones that actually write the speeches instead of the candidates? What's percentage of our political system is currently based on the issues? Things like; economy, defense, taxes, abortion, gay marriage, guns, health care, government spending, patriot act, supreme court justices, etc...

Brujah 09-05-2008 03:07 PM

How can I support my current President if I vote for McCain, when in 2000 they told me that McCain was a bad choice? You remember, stuff like; McCain is gay. Cindy is a drunk. McCain has a bad temper and a loose screw. He'll cause a nuclear war. McCain has a daughter from a black prostitute.

I just can't vote for McCain. I don't want to let President Bush down.

shermo 09-05-2008 03:17 PM

Let's let the votes speak. TV ratings aren't what presidents are elected with. I wonder if republicans realize that a lot of the viewers have to do with the kickoff of the NFL coinciding with McCain's speech.

The only reason they had my viewership tally was because I forgot to turn off the TV in my living room. The same can be said for sports bars serving drink specials after the game that were too busy to change the channels, etc.

As far as democrats not gaining more points than they did, at least they had a surge after the convention. Mccain only gained 1%. The difference is, Obama is working to take votes from McCain, while Mccain is fighting not to lose his current supporters. That is big difference between the 2.

http://news.yahoo.com/election/2008/dashboard

The Adult Broker 09-05-2008 03:17 PM

i don't usually remark on this topic but.... I have always thought that Oprah was a fake. giving money to schools elsewhere but not to the very people in America and our kids who helped her become the 'star' she is. So many examples, too little time to write them all.

and to be honest, she is a terrible interviewer. her brand is what keeps her going. I never cared for her. She is not real. never was.

Palin, she is one feisty woman who I think saved the Republican ticket. I never watch the RNC or DNC stuff, but I did this time and man-she rocked!

baddog 09-05-2008 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 14713950)
What if.... What if.... almost the same amount of people, a major group of the same people, all watched Obama, Palin, and McCain. It's very possible.

I am sure it is.
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I'm sure the Majority of those 40ish million people, know exactly what that means for America.
I have a feeling you don't. :2 cents:

Chio 09-05-2008 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14712966)
No agenda there I guess. At least she doesn't try to hide it.

I would think her sponsors would be pissed considering her speech at the RNC had 2 million more viewers than Obama's.

Where do you get your information?

Obama's speech was seen by 38+ million (Sarah's was 37 million and I'm sure most of those were hoping they'd see the culmination of the train wreck she is).

I think you meant to say more viewers than Biden but even that's not surprising. I didn't even watch his. :1orglaugh

Chio 09-05-2008 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MattO (Post 14713999)
If the numbers for the RNC are more than the DNC it's probably because many Republicans can't bring themselves to watch the DNC without having a fit, while Dems will tune into the RNC for a chuckle.

Bingo. I did. PS How have you been?

DatingGold 09-05-2008 03:24 PM

oprah is a whore

baddog 09-05-2008 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sherm (Post 14714068)
The only reason they had my viewership tally was because I forgot to turn off the TV in my living room. The same can be said for sports bars serving drink specials after the game that were too busy to change the channels, etc.

You have a Nielsen box?

Drake 09-05-2008 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by The Adult Broker (Post 14714070)
i don't usually remark on this topic but.... I have always thought that Oprah was a fake. giving money to schools elsewhere but not to the very people in America and our kids who helped her become the 'star' she is. So many examples, too little time to write them all.

and to be honest, she is a terrible interviewer. her brand is what keeps her going. I never cared for her. She is not real. never was.

Palin, she is one feisty woman who I think saved the Republican ticket. I never watch the RNC or DNC stuff, but I did this time and man-she rocked!

Quoted for truth:2 cents:

commonsense 09-05-2008 03:28 PM

robfantasy .....







You are a diehard republican and don't like Obama









We get it

TheDoc 09-05-2008 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14714079)
I have a feeling you don't. :2 cents:

Oh, clearly we have different views. Enlighten me ol'young one.

Let me clear mine out of the way. I heard him say fight for rights, schools, children, ect social aspects, and we should fight for those - duh. I also heard him say defense, the people that attacked us, war, and we don't back down, we don't stop... ect.

It spoke volumes to me. He plans to fight for all types of things, including more war, clearly he thinks Russia is a problem, we already know about Iran, and Iraq.

What else did he mean?

juz 09-05-2008 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ (Post 14713397)
Oprah is not a sell out.
She didnt do Clearence THomas either as pointed out in that. It is more about her political views more than the money. Oprah has made a wise decision if ya ask me. Think I will have to watch her show now.

ABout time the Liberal base raises a hand and say's STFU to Conservatives.
Oprah is a core liberal, putting Palin on the show would do nothing but bolster Republican support and mislead house wives to believe Palin is some sort of Liberal when she is anything but a liberal.


I don't think Suzie Q Homemaker watches Oprah under the guise that its a conservative or liberal slanted show, so I fail to see how having Palin on would send some sort of message to the bon bon eating crowd that Palin is a liberal


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