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m3nyc · 09-02-2008, 07:48 PM

looking for best DRM solution for wmv.
any input appreciated!

camgirlshide · 09-02-2008, 07:50 PM

I thought this was going to be about college dorms (being the beginning of September and all)

Indecent · 09-02-2008, 07:52 PM

Good question..

I have yet to find a good one that works on all platforms and firefox

Anyone have any suggestions?

m3nyc · 09-02-2008, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Indecent

Good question..

I have yet to find a good one that works on all platforms and firefox

Anyone have any suggestions?

yep having similar issues.

Tempest · 09-02-2008, 08:17 PM

Why not use flash? The new H264 is supposed to be kick ass...

m3nyc · 09-02-2008, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Tempest

Why not use flash? The new H264 is supposed to be kick ass...

at this point thats what im leaning towards.

Robbie · 09-02-2008, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Tempest

Why not use flash? The new H264 is supposed to be kick ass...

It does and I am using it and have stopped every new update for the last 2 months from being anywhere but the members area.

As a result we are seeing sales go up. And since sales already kicked pretty damn good...I'm real happy with it.

It was worth the money and time I've put in for damn sure.

After Shock Media · 09-02-2008, 08:42 PM

Robbie I typically like your posts. Have a big question with that one though. Do you really think that having it in there for 2 months worth of updates increased sales, presumably due to it not being leaked out - or is the increase in sales likely other factors and just has not harmed retention itself?

Robbie · 09-02-2008, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media

Do you really think that having it in there for 2 months worth of updates increased sales, presumably due to it not being leaked out - or is the increase in sales likely other factors and just has not harmed retention itself?

I can't say that with any certainty one way or another.

I can tell you it was white knuckle time the first 2 or 3 weeks. After the dust cleared I lost about 20 members. But again I can't even confirm that I really "lost" them. They wrote me all pissed off and said they were canceling.

But for all I know they were the ones stealing my shit anyway and/or may have planned to cancel anyway that month. So I basically had 20 emails from members who did not rebill. And that 20 number isn't accurate. I honestly didn't keep track. It may have been a couple less or a couple more.

I can also say, that the last update I did that was a .wmv (though it isn't anymore) was up on a tube AND a torrent site the same day I put it in the members area. That was my final straw. And I was seeing decreased sales as our entire paysite was pretty much available on the tubes and torrents.

But starting 7 updates ago...none of the new updates are on tubes or torrents. And I hired removeyourcontent.com to go after the old ones.

And they have kicked ass. Including today when they had a ton of serps removed from Google of sites like PB that refuse take down requests.

And now I'm seeing sales picking back up the way they used to be. I'm not a big believer in coincidence. And I've been working every day on this change-over as I have been personally rendering the entire members area. My high quality h264's take almost 8 hours to render a 25 minute clip using Premier CS3 with the Main Concept MPEG plug in. Then I make a lower bit rate version for people who don't have as much of a kick ass connection. That takes about 2 hours of rendering for that same movie.

It's been a lot of man hours and has kept my main workstation tied up for almost 2 months.

But yes, I do believe that is the reason I am seeing an upsurge in sales. Much more so than any of the hundreds of sites that I promote on my tgps. They are still pretty stagnant.

thebossxxx · 09-02-2008, 09:00 PM

Are there any people that consult or specialize in DRM?

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Tempest · 09-02-2008, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

It does and I am using it and have stopped every new update for the last 2 months from being anywhere but the members area.

As a result we are seeing sales go up. And since sales already kicked pretty damn good...I'm real happy with it.

It was worth the money and time I've put in for damn sure.

I recently redid a chicks members area and did all the videos in Flash. I don't really see why they need to be really high quality and I'm pretty good at getting the best quality out of the "standard" flv format... Haven't got x264 for ffmpeg working otherwise I'd use that one...

The only members area issue I really see is if you don't have streaming and so they have to watch the full thing.. But I got some crude php streaming working the other day and it's pretty decent so will be using that going forward.

Robbie · 09-02-2008, 09:15 PM

The h264 format using encrypted streaming has the ability to keep them from getting your vid for one thing. The flv can be snatched with free software.

And the h264 has the added bonus that you can grab the cursor and move it anywhere in the movie and it will start streaming from that point. So if you want to skip the blowjob and go straigtht to the anal you can.

Tempest · 09-02-2008, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

The h264 format using encrypted streaming has the ability to keep them from getting your vid for one thing. The flv can be snatched with free software.

I hate to burst your "bubble", but the only reason it's good to be using FLV right now is because there's so many WMV/MPG videos out there to download that no one wants to bother downloading FLV or H264... If FLV and H264 became the "norm" for porn, you can be sure there will be programs to rip them from the sites just like everything else. There will never be any method that can stop it from happening as everything can be cracked if the demand is high enough.

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Originally Posted by Robbie

And the h264 has the added bonus that you can grab the cursor and move it anywhere in the movie and it will start streaming from that point. So if you want to skip the blowjob and go straigtht to the anal you can.

Even if the entire video hasn't been downloaded yet? How is that even possible without proper streaming on the server side? You sure you're not using a streaming server or that lighthttpd one that has a streaming module built in?

Robbie · 09-02-2008, 09:47 PM

Hey anything can be hacked. But it hasn't been yet. It's encrypted and the files are not in a place that they can be snatched.

And yes, it can and does go to any spot in the movie and start streaming from that point in about 3 seconds or less (according to file size)

So don't worry...you haven't burst my bubble. I'm well aware that somebody will come up with a way to break it. But they haven't yet. And I'm not gonna lay down and let my hard work get stolen if I can help it.

And when and if it happens...I'll look for the next solution. I'm just not gonna let this happen to me.

EDIT: And again...it's not an flv Not at all.

Tempest · 09-02-2008, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

And yes, it can and does go to any spot in the movie and start streaming from that point in about 3 seconds or less (according to file size)

What webserver app are you using and what flash player?

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Robbie Leaner, Meaner, Faster Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Vegas Posts: 20,959	The h264 format using encrypted streaming has the ability to keep them from getting your vid for one thing. The flv can be snatched with free software. And the h264 has the added bonus that you can grab the cursor and move it anywhere in the movie and it will start streaming from that point. So if you want to skip the blowjob and go straigtht to the anal you can. __________________ -Robbie ClaudiaMarie.Com

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Indecent Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 156	Good question.. I have yet to find a good one that works on all platforms and firefox Anyone have any suggestions?

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Tempest Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Location: West Coast, Canada. Posts: 10,217	Why not use flash? The new H264 is supposed to be kick ass...

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Robbie Leaner, Meaner, Faster Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Vegas Posts: 20,959	Hey anything can be hacked. But it hasn't been yet. It's encrypted and the files are not in a place that they can be snatched. And yes, it can and does go to any spot in the movie and start streaming from that point in about 3 seconds or less (according to file size) So don't worry...you haven't burst my bubble. I'm well aware that somebody will come up with a way to break it. But they haven't yet. And I'm not gonna lay down and let my hard work get stolen if I can help it. And when and if it happens...I'll look for the next solution. I'm just not gonna let this happen to me. EDIT: And again...it's not an flv Not at all. __________________ -Robbie ClaudiaMarie.Com Last edited by Robbie; 09-02-2008 at 09:48 PM..