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Old 08-28-2008, 02:55 PM   #1
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:stop Is Internet Explorer 8 privacy tools the *END* of affiliate programs? Serious Thread!

It seems that there's not enough discussion about the new Internet Explorer 8.0 that is coming out pretty soon, and it's new Privacy Tools, which is being called "porn mode" already, since surfers will be able to visit porn sites without keeping ANY records on their systems.

Some sources for you out of the loop: Computer World and Information Week.

Are affiliate programs already working something out because of this?

Affiliate software develops, such as NATS, MPA3, and even CCBill, Epoch and the other processors: are you guys doing anything about this?

Tube sites aside, this is something that I really believe that could KILL this whole industry as we know!

Any input would be appreciated!

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Old 08-28-2008, 02:57 PM   #2
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Let me go see if you answered in other thread yet.
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Old 08-28-2008, 02:58 PM   #3
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Old 08-28-2008, 02:59 PM   #4
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Let me go see if you answered in other thread yet.
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Old 08-28-2008, 03:00 PM   #5
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OK did not think you would, always better to start your own thread right?

How?
Affilliates themselves were selling eraser type softwares.
Browsers already commonly ask if you want to turn of cookies, erase cookies, turn of java, clear your history, you name it.
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Old 08-28-2008, 03:04 PM   #6
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How?
Affilliates themselves were selling eraser type softwares.
Browsers already commonly ask if you want to turn of cookies, erase cookies, turn of java, clear your history, you name it.
It's not the same thing. Are you really that dumb?

Do you think that for a second, affiliates selling eraser softwares could ever compete with Microsoft making this standard on all their browsers from now on???

Turning off cookies is not even close to what the new features will have.
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It's not the same thing. Are you really that dumb?

Do you think that for a second, affiliates selling eraser softwares could ever compete with Microsoft making this standard on all their browsers from now on???

Turning off cookies is not even close to what the new features will have.
Go look at the program first, then come back and tell me I am dumb.

Little button, on - off. Blocks third party content, blah blah.

You just glanced over the actual question though and went on a retarded attack again. So I will ask once again. How will this kill or hurt affiliate programs?
There is the exception that someone may browse first and come back later without your cookie and buy. Yet that assumes there was no other tracking via session, via ip, or other means as well.
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Old 08-28-2008, 03:28 PM   #8
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So what I see:
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When enabled, IE8 will not save browsing and searching history, cookies, form data and passwords; it also will automatically clear the browser cache at the end of the session.

Other new tools will include InPrivate Blocking and InPrivate Subscription, which notifies users of third-party content that can track browsing history and subscribe to lists of sites to block, respectively. Microsoft will also tweak its existing "Delete Browsing History" by adding an option to preserve bookmarked sites' cookies even when all others are erased
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Besides that it will be a bitch to truly track certain people, which is already a problem; I don't think it will really affect the industry too much. People will still want to surf and buy porn
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Old 08-28-2008, 03:31 PM   #9
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Basically, what this thing does in 3 easy steps:

Doesn't save history.
Makes all cookies session cookies.
Deletes file cache when you close the browser.

This is pretty damn close to what Opera does in a default install, and anybody whose gone ga-ga over Firefox have been able to do with Ctrl-Shift-Del for years. It's not going to affect things much; NATS still prefers affiliate data in a GET/POST to cookies, so, there's highly unlikely to be that many lost sales, since most NATS folks turn down the cookie TTL.

I also said this in the other thread: We keep our NATS cookies at the default 365 days.
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Old 08-28-2008, 03:45 PM   #10
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whether people want to believe it or not, this will hurt affiliate sales....
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Old 08-28-2008, 03:51 PM   #11
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whether people want to believe it or not, this will hurt affiliate sales....
Off course it will!

And it amazes me to see people saying that this is not a big deal!

We are talking about Microsoft here! Do I really need to tell real webmasters to take a look at their own stats to see what % of people use Internet Explorer? It's over 65% on my end!
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Old 08-28-2008, 03:55 PM   #12
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Old 08-28-2008, 04:48 PM   #13
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yeah seems logical prog owners would benifit but prog owners a wily bunch im sure there be a workaround. Gonna get my popcorn
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Old 08-28-2008, 04:57 PM   #14
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Still waiting on how Tranza, you did take the time to call me dumb after all.

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Who also does not think that there will be a quick work around just to use as a marketing tool to attract affiliates anyways?
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Old 08-28-2008, 06:25 PM   #15
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The simple end of this will be... we will adapt

If it means i'm developing tours to the join page then so be it. If i need to embed the script on a join page that's custom made on my server, then so be it. We will figure out a way to make it work.
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Old 08-28-2008, 06:39 PM   #16
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Jesus...we went through this yesterday in a lonnnnnggg boring thread. Here we go again. Firefox ALREADY has been doing that when you close the browser you get prompted to clear ALL data.

NATS doesn't rely on cookies that the CC Bill only programs do. The affiliate code is in the URL. Nothing changes. Now carry on with the drama thread that is a pale shadow of yesterdays' exact same thread.
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This will be great for program typein sales
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Old 08-28-2008, 06:54 PM   #18
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