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Old 08-26-2008, 10:04 AM   #1
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:mad Zorgman called me a scammer.... lmao

I hit this dude up to see about the files and how they go together and such so I could start skinnning his script for clients.... I have one on hold and several other interested in his script and ready to go.....

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JonClark ‎(12:52 PM):
Hey...
JonClark ‎(12:53 PM):
Are you around..?
Zorgman ‎(12:53 PM):
hello
JonClark ‎(12:53 PM):
I have a client that wants me to skin your script..
Does it use a smarty template system..?
Zorgman ‎(12:53 PM):
no, its raw php/html code
JonClark ‎(12:54 PM):
Anyway you can send me a zip of the template files to work with..?
Zorgman ‎(12:55 PM):
Your client will have that file
JonClark ‎(12:56 PM):
Ok, Thanks for being helpfull....
Zorgman ‎(12:57 PM):
who is your client?
JonClark ‎(12:57 PM):
I will keep that to myself..
Zorgman ‎(12:58 PM):
so now it looks like you just wanted a free copy. sorry that didnt work out for you.
JonClark ‎(12:58 PM):
lmao..
You are a clown..
JonClark ‎(12:59 PM):
I own a nice size design company and have a list of people waiting to get a tube site done...
If your script was going to be easy to use for use I would have sent you a ton of business...
I had no clue you were such a ass..
Zorgman ‎(12:59 PM):
then why not tell me who your client is. if they wanted you to design something they would have given you the script to code for them.
Zorgman ‎(1:00 PM):
makes you look like a scammer
sucks to be you.
JonClark ‎(1:00 PM):
I will be sure to tell my client he should use someone else's script.. Hell even the free nubiles script is better... Then dealing with you!
Zorgman ‎(1:01 PM):
ok. do it. your clients loss. and if they ended up in your services then you desire each other. assholes work together
JonClark ‎(1:01 PM):
You are the asshole..
You called me a scammer...
JonClark ‎(1:02 PM):
lmao
Don't you know who the fuck I am...?
Jesus fucking crise!













What is this industry coming too were design companies and script companies no longer work together...?
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Old 08-26-2008, 10:08 AM   #2
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He does seem like a dick, just from looking at his posts.
And yea, his conversation line here was pretty douche-arific.
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Old 08-26-2008, 10:10 AM   #3
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He does seem like a dick, just from looking at his posts.
And yea, his conversation line here was pretty douche-arific.


I like the part were he says it makes me look like a scammer... lmao
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Well, you're both douches in this instance. He acted like a douche (which is understandable having dealt with customers myself for a LONG time) and you should have just grabbed the files yourself if you actually had a client who wanted the script "skinned." There was no reason to even involve Zorgman.
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So he didn't want to give up the script to a designer? Not a big deal in my book. Couldn't you easily have your client provide those files for you? That is what I did, not that big of a problem.
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Do you realise how many people contact me daily asking for a free tevs copy? Way too many. Poeple saying their designers and they have clients so they need to "TEST" tevs to make sure they can skin it.

Please! If you don't know HTML then you will not be able to do it, for everyone -- you got no problems.

I don't know you, never meet you before and the first thing you do is ask for a free copy of TEVS. Were you expecting me to GIVE you $250 worth of a script for FREE for no reason except for that fact that you have a "CLIENT" which you can't tell me who that is.

Look at it from my point, it's very suss.
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Old 08-26-2008, 10:19 AM   #8
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Zorgman ‎(1:02 PM):
no, you must not be that good
i cant read minds you know.
Zorgman ‎(1:03 PM):
i asked you who your client was and you got shitty. that tells me your a scammer. if you had a client at all, they would give you the code. But like i said, nice try
JonClark ‎(1:04 PM):
You were short with me..
JonClark ‎(1:05 PM):
You only asked who my client was when I thanked you for being helpful...
lol..
You are on gfy begging for business with some crazy discount... When if you where nice to me I could sell ten copiues a week for you to my clients..
Zorgman ‎(1:05 PM):
short? you mean i wanted to know if your client was a registed license hold. im sure that not important to you, but that is to me. and that fact that you asked for a copy tells me there is NO client.
JonClark ‎(1:05 PM):
but you fucked up..
lmao at you..
JonClark ‎(1:06 PM):
https://gfy.com/14665399-post16.html
There is one client..
Asking me have I talked to you yet..
Zorgman ‎(1:06 PM):
you fucked up, if you had said your clients domain and it was legit then you would have got a copy. but nope. cant tell me that.
end of line. bye
Zorgman ‎(1:07 PM):
best of luck with your "clients"
JonClark ‎(1:07 PM):
https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/850579-zorgman-called-scammer-lmao-post14666222.html
Tell it to the board...
Maybe we will both get some extra business out of your stupity...
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I like the part were he says it makes me look like a scammer... lmao
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I'll be back in a few hours, I'm trying to roundup some ideas for the next revision and honestly I'm at a bit of a loss for what way I should go for making templating easier and would be interested in some real feedback.

If you have a steady flow of ideas for me right after I get back from vacation I have to bust my ass on overhauling things and getting a marketing push together. I've let my system die off due to "getting a real job" for a while and juggling family stuff.. But when I'm actively developing something it comes along FAST. Honestly I had run out of ideas and everybody I was talking to trying to get ideas from had become content LOL I had run out of ideas too...
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Do you realise how many people contact me daily asking for a free tevs copy? Way too many. Poeple saying their designers and they have clients so they need to "TEST" tevs to make sure they can skin it.

Please! If you don't know HTML then you will not be able to do it, for everyone -- you got no problems.

I don't know you, never meet you before and the first thing you do is ask for a free copy of TEVS. Were you expecting me to GIVE you $250 worth of a script for FREE for no reason except for that fact that you have a "CLIENT" which you can't tell me who that is.

Look at it from my point, it's very suss.
Took you a whole ten minutes to come up with that...?


















Look, I never asked for the whole script, I asked for template files... I have never had a script writer have a problem ever with giving me template files...



















The client ask me to get the files from you, he was not sure which ones they are...






































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hit me up on AIM: krohnathlonman
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I'll be back in a few hours, I'm trying to roundup some ideas for the next revision and honestly I'm at a bit of a loss for what way I should go for making templating easier and would be interested in some real feedback.

If you have a steady flow of ideas for me right after I get back from vacation I have to bust my ass on overhauling things and getting a marketing push together. I've let my system die off due to "getting a real job" for a while and juggling family stuff.. But when I'm actively developing something it comes along FAST. Honestly I had run out of ideas and everybody I was talking to trying to get ideas from had become content LOL I had run out of ideas too...

You must have read my mind... I was planning on hitting you up... I need a solution for my clients since oh zorgy here has pms...
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Don't you know who the fuck I am...?
Jesus fucking crise!
You're unreal dude. I'm can't even come up with anything else to say. I'm speechless.
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Took you a whole ten minutes to come up with that...?


Look, I never asked for the whole script, I asked for template files... I have never had a script writer have a problem ever with giving me template files...

The client ask me to get the files from you, he was not sure which ones they are...

lmao
Again, why not get the files from your client? Sounds to me like you either didn't have a client or the client didn't own the script.
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So he didn't want to give up the script to a designer? Not a big deal in my book. Couldn't you easily have your client provide those files for you? That is what I did, not that big of a problem.
The client requested that I talk to Zorgy, I usually do as my clients wish... And honestly, what my clients wish was is really the best option... Getting the correct default files is always much easier then working with the edited files clients have..







Zorgy just has a high horse and is used to looking down on people that are not handing him 250...


My client thought he was a nice guy and have no problem, but again, my client was giving him 250 at the time... Of course he is a nice guy when the money is going in his hand....







What was even funnier is how he tried to be nice and clean things up after he realized I was another source of revenue....
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Took you a whole ten minutes to come up with that...?
Unlike you, Im not on the forums even second of the day. I check in now and then to see whats going on with the industry.

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So what your saying is your client is so stuffed up he doesn't know what "DOWNLOAD" means. It's a big button at the top of the files page. It's really hard to miss.
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You're unreal dude. I'm can't even come up with anything else to say. I'm speechless.
You are the unreal one.... Got caught scammer years ago here and now.... All you do is troll!
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Again, why not get the files from your client? Sounds to me like you either didn't have a client or the client didn't own the script.
Again... Client requested of me to talk to Zorgman, told me he was nice guy and would be able to help me determine what we needed to do to skin the thing...
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Jon Clark, you COULD have told him who the client was, it's not like the client didn't purchase the script from him in the first place. It's no secret, especially if the client told you to get them from him.
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So who is your client? Are you man enough to say his name here? or is all this just a lot of shit!
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Again... Client requested of me to talk to Zorgman, told me he was nice guy and would be able to help me determine what we needed to do to skin the thing...
You could have looked at the files and determined what needed to be done yourself. Do you always let your clients tell you how to do your job?
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I can understand from both views. Designers need something to work with, but why not get from your client, they obviously have the files. As for zorgman, I've been in his same situation, and I got quickly tired of people trying to get stuff for "for a client". We begin to spend all our time to find out if you are trying to scam or are sincere. Easier to just say no.
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Jon, just checked out your design site, not sure why anyone would even hire you for design work, end of thread.
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Jon Clark, you COULD have told him who the client was, it's not like the client didn't purchase the script from him in the first place. It's no secret, especially if the client told you to get them from him.
Oh I could have...? After he was short with me...?




I would have, if I thought he would have been of help... Besides, I gave him a link in icq of a post on this board my client made asking me did I have news from Zorg yet...



Scroll up, the link is in this thread now..
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You could have looked at the files and determined what needed to be done yourself. Do you always let your clients tell you how to do your job?
Yup, clients are always right!
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Jon, just checked out your design site, not sure why anyone would even hire you for design work, end of thread.
How does Zorgy's cock taste..?
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What you seem to be too thick to understand is that you didn't need to ask him for the files. The client can log in and download a fresh copy whenever he wants. How do I know this, because I use the script myself. I'm not your average troll.
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So who is your client? Are you man enough to say his name here? or is all this just a lot of shit!
Are you really that stupid...? I already gave you a link to a post he made asking if I had a update.... Here is a series of links...

https://gfy.com/14656733-post13.html
https://gfy.com/14659350-post23.html
https://gfy.com/14665399-post16.html







When I finally do get ahold of you..... Well.... You know how that turned out!
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What you seem to be too thick to understand is that you didn't need to ask him for the files. The client can log in and download a fresh copy whenever he wants. How do I know this, because I use the script myself. I'm not your average troll.
SCAMMER ALERT!!!!!!!!!


YOU SIR ARE A KNOWN SCAMMER AND THIEF>>> ZORGMAN SHOULD NOT EVEN GIVE YOU ACCESS TO HIS SCRIPT FOR FEAR THAT YOU MIGHT REPACKAGE IT AND RESALE IT.... FITS RRIGHT IN WITH WHAT YOU GOT CAUGHT DOING!


NOW SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU SCAMMING PIECE OF SHIT CANDYFLIP AND TAKE ZORGMANS COCK OUT OF YOUR MOUTH!
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Are you really that stupid...? I already gave you a link to a post he made asking if I had a update.... Here is a series of links...

https://gfy.com/14656733-post13.html
https://gfy.com/14659350-post23.html
https://gfy.com/14665399-post16.html

When I finally do get ahold of you..... Well.... You know how that turned out!
Do you really think he has the guy saved in his database as "globofun from gfy"? You tried to hide the client name and you expected him to bend over backwards because you're Jon Clark. And then you try to slag him here on GFY. What a fucking joke.
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I can understand from both views. Designers need something to work with, but why not get from your client, they obviously have the files. As for zorgman, I've been in his same situation, and I got quickly tired of people trying to get stuff for "for a client". We begin to spend all our time to find out if you are trying to scam or are sincere. Easier to just say no.
If the script is developed by someone that knows what they are doing they do not have to worry about that.... And they will have a zipped up template system ready for designers...


Smartys and Zend work great....
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Old 08-26-2008, 10:52 AM   #39
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Do you really think he has the guy saved in his database as "globofun from gfy"? You tried to hide the client name and you expected him to bend over backwards because you're Jon Clark. And then you try to slag him here on GFY. What a fucking joke.
You are kidding me right...? I love the way these scammers do it.... Just ignore it and no one will notice...
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Fucking drama queen. I really lost all my respect for you (not that I had any but okay).
The feelings are mutual
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The only time any other than Fletch brings that up is when I point out to them what an idiot they are. Guess what, that shit has never effected me. I told my side and it's all out there for people to see. I'm still here as candyflip. Still running my business. Still doing business with plenty of others.

You're wanna be fly by nigher reselling outsourced design work, reselling cheap servers, just pretending to be a big shot. Everyone here has seen your character more than once before. You've got some hustle, but you just don't get it and you never will. In the grand scheme of things, you're just entertainment for most of us here.
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Im my opinion, templates are great, I have nothing against them. But you can do so much more custom work with raw code.
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The only time any other than Fletch brings that up is when I point out to them what an idiot they are. Guess what, that shit has never effected me. I told my side and it's all out there for people to see. I'm still here as candyflip. Still running my business. Still doing business with plenty of others.

You're wanna be fly by nigher reselling outsourced design work, reselling cheap servers, just pretending to be a big shot. Everyone here has seen your character more than once before. You've got some hustle, but you just don't get it and you never will. In the grand scheme of things, you're just entertainment for most of us here.
You do realize.... Most of your post describe yourself..
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Im my opinion, templates are great, I have nothing against them. But you can do so much more custom work with raw code.
If you know how to use smartys you can do all the smae and more..


Either way... I am not mad at you... Just wish you would have given me the dang files so I could start these project tonight....

Fuck, it is the client that is the victim here...

He has spent good money and gotten three copies of your script, but can't get them skinned because you and I can't get along...







We are both idiots
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You do realize.... Most of your post describe yourself..
Which part? Because I don't see where you're coming from, aside from the first paragraph, which IS about me.
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Well, thats not it. To install TEVS you need the license ID. So your clients needs to login and send you those details anyway, why not send you the file too?

Also, from what I read in that thread you posted. He's not hired you YET. He was asking you to contact me regarding TEVS.
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Zorgman, please discern the difference between worthless blowhard surfer, and scammer. There is a difference. He might be so high he thinks he's actually doing something.

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I love these drama threads....

Come on guys... let's get it over with and show some love.
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