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Old 10-27-2002, 07:57 PM   #51
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I agree.

I learned my lesson last year with ClickCash.

I was counting on more than 3k that didnt come and it fudged me up a bit, now I know better.

Good advice, really.

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I know what you mean. When the going was good with Clickcash they rocked. I didn't want to promote any other sponsors because I was getting 1:50-1:100 with them.

But then early this year the conversions took a dive and haven't recovered. I still use them, but now I've diversified.
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Old 10-27-2002, 08:04 PM   #52
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getting back to your original post, dont you think having 15+ sponsors
might be spreading yourself too thin?
No you are lowering company risk by having more....it is better to have 30 sponsors paying you $100 per month than one paying $3000.....To make a $100 from 30 is one TGP post per day for each one....
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Old 10-27-2002, 08:35 PM   #53
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i need to diversify too, right now i primarily use ARS, FEB, and AFF. I need sponsors that have indian sites and pay weekly, feel free to spam me at ' aflex at comcast.net ' , thanks in advance!
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Old 10-27-2002, 08:41 PM   #54
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http://www.ukethnicmodels.com/

The bloke that runs this stie is a friend of mine called Joe A. He has a tons of Indian partner programs that are all based around his exclusive content....This could be somewhere for someone trying to find an Indian niche sponsor.
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Old 10-27-2002, 08:46 PM   #55
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hey Krome, his website doesnt mention his sponsor program. I'm very interested in it, because his indian content is quite fresh. Even if he doesn't have a program up, i'd like to buy content. Drop me some info aflex at comcast.net
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Old 10-27-2002, 08:53 PM   #56
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Hey Krome,

If you buy your content from photographers in the UK, then how did you manage to fuck over 40 of the girls from your sites?
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Old 10-27-2002, 09:05 PM   #57
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I thought the real path to riches was to start your OWN webmaster program...come on...everybody's doing it.

sure is... you gotta have a couple hundred k just to get goin though...
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Old 10-27-2002, 09:35 PM   #58
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I thought the real path to riches was to start your OWN webmaster program...come on...everybody's doing it.
that's half the problem today
look for all of that to thin out
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Old 10-27-2002, 09:45 PM   #59
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Old 10-27-2002, 09:50 PM   #60
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Rule number 3 and this is the most important going if you are going to start your own paysite.....MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A LAWYER WHO WOULD SELL HIS OWN MOTHER....
Don't they all?
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Old 10-27-2002, 09:58 PM   #61
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this thread is summed up by these statements

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damn... how many rules are there?
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"To be quite honest i am making it up as I go along..."
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Old 10-28-2002, 05:16 AM   #62
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Hey Krome,

If you buy your content from photographers in the UK, then how did you manage to fuck over 40 of the girls from your sites?
I fuck them after....

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I suppose.....but you need quality so fucking the models all day during the shoot is not good...fuck them after....allowing she has not just done bukake....
Plus I do get loads of them staying around my house...so it is all good...
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Old 10-28-2002, 05:21 AM   #63
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that's half the problem today
look for all of that to thin out
Thanks to Visa that problem is sorted.
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Old 10-28-2002, 10:50 AM   #64
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this thread is summed up by these statements

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damn... how many rules are there?
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"To be quite honest i am making it up as I go along..."

It may sum it up big boy...but then who should people look to for advice...someone like you who admires and rates my sites but then will only take sponsors if they pay cash up front or someone like me who knows my product is so shit hot that I will convert!

I would never sell traffic to someone cash up front. Also Sleazy you state that TGP's are the big earners in this business..the day that a TGP earns the biggest check from me is the day I quit this business....The TGP's have only ever earned pocket change.

Want to know who earns the big money? It is not the TGP's never has been never will be.

Sleazy I am not having a bash but you are wrong....I am just saying the truth. You know who earns the big money like I do.
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Old 10-28-2002, 11:49 AM   #65
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Actually just answer me this:

If the Hun is so powerful then why is he rubbing vaseline into his arse at the moment to calm down the damage done by drawnsex.com this week?
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Old 10-28-2002, 12:08 PM   #66
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It may sum it up big boy...but then who should people look to for advice...someone like you who admires and rates my sites but then will only take sponsors if they pay cash up front or someone like me who knows my product is so shit hot that I will convert!

I would never sell traffic to someone cash up front. Also Sleazy you state that TGP's are the big earners in this business..the day that a TGP earns the biggest check from me is the day I quit this business....The TGP's have only ever earned pocket change.

Want to know who earns the big money? It is not the TGP's never has been never will be.

Sleazy I am not having a bash but you are wrong....I am just saying the truth. You know who earns the big money like I do.
then who earns the big money? Maybe it's just that you don't have any big TGPs pushing your stuff???????
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Old 10-28-2002, 12:21 PM   #67
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Old 10-28-2002, 12:26 PM   #68
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then who earns the big money? Maybe it's just that you don't have any big TGPs pushing your stuff???????
I have big TGP's based across Europe sending traffic to me...ok you want to hear it lets say it..The boys sending out the big 'opt' in email lists make you the cash...


I have been going around buying the email lists from sites that have been shutting because of Visa and they are making more through sending out the lists for me then they were running their own sites.
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Old 10-28-2002, 12:28 PM   #69
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Mr Krome is feeling generous today.
I quite like your site...Cozy Academy is cool
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Old 10-28-2002, 12:35 PM   #70
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I quite like your site...Cozy Academy is cool
awww... you're just saying that
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Old 10-28-2002, 12:40 PM   #71
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I have big TGP's based across Europe sending traffic to me...ok you want to hear it lets say it..The boys sending out the big 'opt' in email lists make you the cash...


I have been going around buying the email lists from sites that have been shutting because of Visa and they are making more through sending out the lists for me then they were running their own sites.
there's a reason big sites want nothing to do with email lists...... you might make a quick buck now but the hammer will fall on that marketing venue. Too many grandmas that have never surfed porn in their lives are getting bombarded with porn spam. Most lists that say they are double opt in arn't.
Piss off a on old religious grandma and look out.
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Krome - good points.. I like your idea of getting feedback from test users.

As for how many sponsors an affiliate should have, shouldn't that be based on sending the level of traffic that gets you the highest payout? so sending to 10 sponsors getting their top payout instead of 20 getting the standard payout.

How about these features for affiliates:

1) Let tours be customizable. Have multiple tours to choose from.

2) Offer a link back on the tour

3) Let the affiliate choose consoles or not (with credit)

4) Offer the affiliate's own popup - total credit to affiliate

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Old 10-28-2002, 12:43 PM   #73
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I run between 20 and 30 sponsors every month and usually try out 2 to 4 new ones. Most programs only have a few sites that will convert with my traffic. I'd say I advertise 50 to 75 different sites.
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Old 10-28-2002, 12:55 PM   #74
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there's a reason big sites want nothing to do with email lists...... you might make a quick buck now but the hammer will fall on that marketing venue. Too many grandmas that have never surfed porn in their lives are getting bombarded with porn spam. Most lists that say they are double opt in arn't.
Piss off a on old religious grandma and look out.
Yes I totally agree the lists have to be opt in...that is why CEN now have people there who get the affiliates to sign contracts or some shit before they mail out...but the big money is made in mailers....
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Yes I totally agree the lists have to be opt in...that is why CEN now have people there who get the affiliates to sign contracts or some shit before they mail out...but the big money is made in mailers....
ever think that maybe TGPs are one of the largest places that mailers complie their lists from??????????????
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Old 10-28-2002, 01:41 PM   #76
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I send the same amount of traffic to about 8 sponsors. Nice start, need to take it up a notch. Good suggestion Krome.

Do you send to us? If not why don't you start?
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Krome - good points.. I like your idea of getting feedback from test users.

As for how many sponsors an affiliate should have, shouldn't that be based on sending the level of traffic that gets you the highest payout? so sending to 10 sponsors getting their top payout instead of 20 getting the standard payout.

How about these features for affiliates:

1) Let tours be customizable. Have multiple tours to choose from.

2) Offer a link back on the tour

3) Let the affiliate choose consoles or not (with credit)

4) Offer the affiliate's own popup - total credit to affiliate

???
I totally agree with all the points made here....I have probably signed up to hundreds of programs in my time and basically over the years I have trimmed it down to ones that I know pay month in month out...
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I agree try out all sponsors till you hit the golden egg

but always send to a few there are many good programs out there.

try us out u can't lose www.freefreeprogram.com
all the sites have a $1 trial membership for a month super easy to convert
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Do you send to us? If not why don't you start?
I don't think so... contact me tomorrow, 147479144. Maybe I'll start.
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Old 10-29-2002, 06:27 AM   #81
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Tara who is the hottest chick around that you promote?
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Very true and then expect them to pull out their card and do business with them.When I hit a site with popups I get gone. Im not going to buy anything a site is selling that puts me in pop up hell. I am amazed that people actually click on popups.
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