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timoxxl2 08-22-2008 09:52 AM

To promote cams is a different thing indeed!!! The strategy much more depends on the kind of traffic you have.

There are two arguments you have to look at:
1. are you able to contact your traffic again ... so do you have their email addresses or do you run a community?
2. is it porn traffic or not?

1- yes + 2- yes
These users mostly do not come to the internet for the first time. They have visited many sites before. Probably you have many small fish and some nice big whales among them. The problem is, they already have accounts with many of the interesting webcam communities. So neither the revshare nor the PPS will bring you any results. But some webcam sites invented the perfect solution for this kind of traffic. Visitors over there, do not belong to one webmaster, but they only belong to them for a certain period of time. After that time, either the webcam company does not pay anything to the affiliate any more (which is good for the company but bad for the affiliate) or the visitor can be referred again by another affiliate. So every affiliate has a new chance on this big whale.
One of the biggest programs is <a href=http://www.awempire.com/ws/referral_rs=123webcams/wsmain2.php target=”_blank”> this</a> one. Even I don’t consider this procedure as really fair towards the affiliates, it is a fact and if your traffic comes from the category stated above, you will be able to send your traffic there again and again, because you know your visitors personally. This way you can make use of your big whales, which you cannot on other revshare sites as the whales are registered already with them. (If you agree with me, please use <a href=http://www.awempire.com/ws/referral_rs=123webcams/wsmain2.php target=”_blank”> this ref link</a> … even I only get something for a certain period of time.)

1- no + 2- yes
These users are the same as the ones above, you just don’t have any personal information about them. So you probably can only send them away once. If you use the same strategy as mentioned above, you get only paid for a few weeks and afterwards the company keeps all the profits and you won&#180;t get a cent. And believe me the profits from the big whales can be enormous. That’s why the company above is so successful, because many webmaster don’t understand the principle. At the same time many of your users are registered with many of the other webcam communities as well. So you won&#180;t neither earn revshare nor PPS from them. The solution is, to send them to rather new webcam communities like http://www.cupidocam.com . Even the visitors won&#180;t find so much performers online there, they will want to try something new and find performers they did not find somewhere else. From past experiences I can tell you, if it is not that crowded, it&#180;s much easier to fall in love with somebody. And that is what you want the whale to do, because than you will earn the big money. So send your anonymous traffic to this webcam community and earn big money with whales that have tried all other webcam sites and so won&#180;t bring you money there.

1 – no + 2 no
This traffic is difficult to judge. One this is clear, you can only send it away once. So do not apply the first strategy. You need to test it yourself. First go for revshare programs like <a href=”http://cams.com/go/g264749-brk“ target=”_blank”> this</a> one or even better <a href=”http://www.cupidocam.com“ target=”_blank”> this</a> one. If you realize that the traffic does not bring many whales but only small fish, just switch the program to a PPS and earn much more money with that. But please do not expect to catch a whale in a week. You should give that try at least half a year.

1 - yes + 2- no
Here you can apply the same strategy as in the last group. But you have a second chance. First try a plain revshare program like http://www.cupidocam.com. If you realize that your traffic does not bring whales, you can use the same traffic / users and send them to another webcam community and use the PPS program there. You know you will not loose something as they are mostly small fishs but you still get the high PPS profit.

If you mainly have business traffic, you should try http://www.cupidocam.com as well, because we pay up to 30&#37; for webmaster referrals.

Does anybody share my point of view? I am happy about any comments here or just contact me on ICQ.

And one last tip … be carefull with this webcam community advertising here with the name visi….. never send them big whales. Big whales only send to reliable sites.

Redmanthatcould 08-22-2008 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timoxxl2 (Post 14647128)
Big whales only send to reliable sites.

Thanks for all those pearls of wisdom...I'm sure they'd go even better in your own thread :winkwink:

But I do agree that affiliates should send big whales to reliable sites...especially those that have been around the longest, and know how to treat their big customers best. :2 cents:

seeric 08-22-2008 01:13 PM

tim is my daddy.

EmpireAutopilot 08-22-2008 01:47 PM

Why would you ever suggest that your affiliates take a &#37; if you will make more money on PPS?

Just be up front about things. ;)

timoxxl2 08-23-2008 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EmpireAutopilot (Post 14648496)
Why would you ever suggest that your affiliates take a % if you will make more money on PPS?

Just be up front about things. ;)


we stopped our PPS completely on cupidocam.com because we do not think it is fair!
only if everybody is happy we can succeed. so if our affiliates are happy we will be successfull ... and PPS in the end is not fair for webcams! ... only under the conditions i pointed out above

Bojangles 08-23-2008 06:44 AM

Damn that's nice.

EmpireAutopilot 08-23-2008 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timoxxl2 (Post 14650701)
we stopped our PPS completely on cupidocam.com because we do not think it is fair!
only if everybody is happy we can succeed. so if our affiliates are happy we will be successfull ... and PPS in the end is not fair for webcams! ... only under the conditions i pointed out above

When I promoted cams hardcore I would have gone broke waiting on recurring cam money to come in. I used my PPS sales to expand quickly which worked out to being worth more in the end since it launched many things after.

timoxxl2 08-23-2008 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EmpireAutopilot (Post 14650990)
When I promoted cams hardcore I would have gone broke waiting on recurring cam money to come in. I used my PPS sales to expand quickly which worked out to being worth more in the end since it launched many things after.


the webcam company will have been very happy about that ;-)

thehand 08-23-2008 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EmpireAutopilot (Post 14648496)
Why would you ever suggest that your affiliates take a &#37; if you will make more money on PPS?

Just be up front about things. ;)

There is plenty left over for us because of volume. We are in it for the long haul, not just month to month or year to year. Our affiliates are serious about a long term income stream. . Its been our business model for 12 (TWELVE) years.

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ultra100 08-23-2008 02:16 PM

I guess that this thread: https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/849873-earn-revshare-pic-inside-stats.html ; perfectly goes with this one. :pimp

TubeSubmitters 08-23-2008 02:48 PM

50 cams ......

Redmanthatcould 08-23-2008 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ultra100 (Post 14652383)

I saw that you mentioned in that thread that you still have a guy rebilling, even though it's not much per month.

Please email us, and we can go over some of our new promo tools on the horizon...perhaps we can get some more long-term customers for you. :)

Roald 08-24-2008 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VS_Jeff (Post 14653196)
.......perhaps we can get some more long-term customers for you. :)

I want more long term customers too!!!!!!!!!

Help a brother out yo ;))))

fuzzylogic 08-24-2008 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timoxxl2 (Post 14647128)

And one last tip ? be carefull with this webcam community advertising here with the name visi?.. never send them big whales. Big whales only send to reliable sites.

how come you didnt mention webcams.com? they are a big, reliable site with revshare, no?

speaking of reliable, camazon (dating) has been paying me revshare (recur billing) on some guys for 4-5 years now even though i stopped traffic years ago. i think thats pretty cool :thumbsup

thehand 08-24-2008 02:50 PM

Sunday Bump

fuzzylogic 08-24-2008 06:12 PM

no one cares about these stats

thehand 08-24-2008 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzzylogic (Post 14657143)
no one cares about these stats

Then why are you spamming my thread with you ref codes?:321GFY

Imortyl Pussycat 08-25-2008 10:15 AM

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Redmanthatcould 08-25-2008 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 14656125)
I want more long term customers too!!!!!!!!!

Help a brother out yo ;))))

I think I help you out more than my own brother lol :)

You should be seeing an email from me this week, and you will also see the red 'fro in a month.

V_RocKs 08-25-2008 11:34 AM

I can't even fathom PPS..

fuzzylogic 08-25-2008 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thehand (Post 14657173)
Then why are you spamming my thread with you ref codes?:321GFY

oh, i didnt mean i dont care about them. i do, thats why i opened this thread. i actually asked a question on page 1 which was never answered. thats the reason i came back a 2nd time and this 3rd time to see if it was answered.

in the five years i have been promoting cams i have never used revshare (today i started). so i am just poking around using search to see if i am missing anything :)

thehand 08-25-2008 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzzylogic (Post 14662155)
oh, i didnt mean i dont care about them. i do, thats why i opened this thread. i actually asked a question on page 1 which was never answered. thats the reason i came back a 2nd time and this 3rd time to see if it was answered.

in the five years i have been promoting cams i have never used revshare (today i started). so i am just poking around using search to see if i am missing anything :)

I don't see any question on page 1 :helpme

thehand 08-25-2008 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sosa (Post 14642033)
just signed up, do you happen to have any peel ads?

I'm sorry, but I missed this . We just stared a project to develop these for you, please hit me up. :thumbsup

Nicky 08-25-2008 06:01 PM

Revshare all the way on cams. Especially HIGH revshare ;)

HomerSimpson 08-25-2008 07:00 PM

I want stats like those :)

timoxxl2 08-26-2008 12:40 AM

http://www.CupidoCam.com even offers you a REVSHARE on the models you refer ... send new models and earn on each sale the model makes in our system ... so in the end you can earn a double revshare ... if the visitor and the model both have been refered by you ... isnt that a reason to give it a try?
contact me for further options!!!

MediaManiac 08-26-2008 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thehand (Post 14643565)
Remember these whales Keith ?

You posted it here a while back:

http://www.anaheimducks.info/tmp/vs-top10.png

( From https://gfy.com/13408264-post16.html )

wtf.. very nice stats.. !

Redmanthatcould 08-26-2008 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HomerSimpson (Post 14663147)
I want stats like those :)

Then it's time we talk :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by MediaManiac (Post 14664142)
wtf.. very nice stats.. !

Your stats aren't too bad either, my friend. ;)

See you next month...hopefully with a warm reception, a bottle of liquor, and a hot Dutch chick for each of us :winkwink:

thehand 08-26-2008 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VS_Jeff (Post 14666079)


and a hot Dutch chick for each of us :winkwink:

now you're talkin' Jeff:thumbsup

SykkBoy 08-28-2008 01:37 PM

You guys need more clown cam feeds....

kidding...thanks for the big checks, VS! :)

Redmanthatcould 08-28-2008 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SykkBoy2 (Post 14678982)
You guys need more clown cam feeds....

kidding...thanks for the big checks, VS! :)

If you're interested in providing the clown content...we'll send over the 2257s :1orglaugh

Thanks for the continued support :thumbsup


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