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Old 08-20-2008, 07:20 AM   #1
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T-Mobile first carrier to with Google's Android mobile operating system phone.

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The mobile and wireless space erupts with talk of T-Mobile's rumored first smart phone based on Google's Android mobile operating system. The FCC has cleared the gadget for a Nov. 10 release. Meanwhile, Venture Beat claims Android will appear first in mobile devices, then in other gadgets, such as set-top boxes and MP3 players. This will open up new application development and Web services opportunities for programmers but only if they don't revolt against the Google Android team's secretive ways.


If we are to believe reports from the blogosphere, T-Mobile USA is expected to be the first carrier to offer the first Google Android-based mobile phone, which has been approved by the Federal Communications Commission to be released Nov. 10 this year.

The phone, called the Dream, will be made by HTC and could sell for $150 to $200.

Pictures of the Dream have been surfacing online for months now, but a recent video of the phone in action also popped up on pretty much all of the gadget lover's Web sites. I link to it here and the device schematics here.

The 3G-enabled smart phone will have a touch screen but will also slide out to produce a full five-row keyboard.

This form factor is causing some people to already pronounce the device as big and clunky compared to the devices it is expected to compete with, including the rabidly successful Apple iPhone and handhelds from Nokia, Research and Motion, Palm and Microsoft.

With those competitors as the backdrop, Google has some serious challenges in store for the Dream.

Google hopes users will buy the phone and leverage Google software, including Search, Gmail, Docs and other applications. With more users accessing Google's mobile apps, the company will aim to to further make money through mobile online advertising.


But that isn't what's so exciting about Android to me.

VentureBeat's Eric Eldon and Matthaus Krzykowski did some sleuthing and divined that Android will not only be Google's entry point for the mobile Internet, but a ubiquitous operating system that leverages not just the mobile Internet but other communication and media devices, from set-top boxes to MP3 players and more.

Android could be for the Internet what Microsoft hoped Xbox 360 and Xbox Live service would be for entertainment lovers everywhere: TV, gaming and computing platform in one device.

Android has a long, long way to go to get there. Creating a successful mobile operating system for a desktop or a mobile phone is challenging enough without having to make an uber-OS that works on any computing device.

But I like Google's approach to the Web in general and its early, open-source positioning of Android as being open to all is wise.

I tell you this: Google's Android plans won't come to fruition if they don't stop playing hide and seek with its developers, who are not only calling for fair distribution of SDKs, but better disclosure on Android development processes.

Google made a critical error in July when it sent out a new Android SDK to only the 50 winners of the Android Developer Challenge.

But Android programmers have long been asking for more disclosure about Android development processes. Android developer Nicolas Gramlich in June started a petition asking Google to release more updates to the SDK and to offer developers information about the development timeline of the SDK.

Google responded in an Android discussion group forum:
We appreciate the enthusiasm of our developers and we're excited that you're so passionate about the Android platform. Thanks for taking the time to send this.
This didn't exactly sit well with developers. Wrote one user:
This is a critical time for Android. I want to support it, but hesitate, when I am given a buggy SDK, and the company supporting the product refuses to provide updates. Google, its time to update the development community, and show some good will.
This won't have a bearing on how well Android phones do once they hit the shelves this fall, but it could eventually bite Google in the future. Aggravate enough programmers and they'll take their coding services to Apple's iPhone or other gadgets.
Link: http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Mobile-and-...hen-The-World/

The Iphone will soon have some competition.
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Old 08-20-2008, 07:27 AM   #2
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have seen yesterday the video aboutandroid, posted here
that really looks great and ther 'll be a market
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Old 08-20-2008, 08:21 AM   #3
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I'd just like to see T-Mobile use a 3G network...

They talk about how in the UK they are the shit and how they are kings of innovation over there but over here they have the shitiest network of all.
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Old 08-20-2008, 08:27 AM   #4
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nothing will compare to the iphone
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Old 08-20-2008, 08:55 AM   #5
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has anyone actually even seen android yet?
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Old 08-20-2008, 09:35 AM   #6
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has anyone actually even seen android yet?
I've run it on my phone. A an alpha version. Makes calls, browses the web and can keep contacts.

Here are a few videos of some UI one developer has been working on:





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Old 08-20-2008, 09:37 AM   #7
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Here's a tech demo video with the standard UI:

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Old 08-20-2008, 09:49 AM   #8
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I'd just like to see T-Mobile use a 3G network...

They talk about how in the UK they are the shit and how they are kings of innovation over there but over here they have the shitiest network of all.
I agree that the choice of using T-Mobile is the worst choice that Google could have made. I live in Atlanta and have used almost every carrier over the years and I would have to say that Verizon is the only carrier that could compete with AT&T in terms of quality of reception and coverage area.
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Old 08-20-2008, 09:53 AM   #9
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i think apple will not like this move from t-mobile as they are the only monopolistic partner they have in germany to sell the iPhone ... and they have a contract for the next 5 years ... so which phone will t-mobile promote in germany
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I agree that the choice of using T-Mobile is the worst choice that Google could have made. I live in Atlanta and have used almost every carrier over the years and I would have to say that Verizon is the only carrier that could compete with AT&T in terms of quality of reception and coverage area.
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This is just the first unit. The focus isn't the phone, it's the OS which is basically a mobile Linux that's backed no only by Google but about 30 other companies including T-Mobile, Sprint, Motorola, HTC, Qualcomm...

Plenty of potential.

http://www.openhandsetalliance.com

There's a thread here from yesterday that's a few pages of info.
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(Taken from engagetmobile- short news: 3g on oct 1 in 27 cities.. it's a start)

We were already pretty sure this would be happening, but it's looking real now, if 8.5 x 11-inch pieces of paper taped to windows is any indication: T-Mobile is rolling out its 3G service on October 1 to 27 select cities. The above poster was spotted by TmoNews "outside a meeting" and, as you can see, it says, "10.1.08 3G is Coming." As far as those launch cities, we have a handy little list for you after the break. By the way, it's entirely possible T-Mobile 3G is already live in your market, though, so don't let this confuse you too much. It could just mean you're next, or, at least by October 1.
New York City
Austin
NJ and Long Island
Las Vagas
Minneapolis
Miami
Dallas
Chicago
Houston
Philadelphia
Denver
Detroit
Orlando
Kansas city
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New England (whatever that means)
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Old 08-20-2008, 02:02 PM   #12
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I think Android could end up killing the iPhone. This coming from a very satisfied iPhone owner.

Apple seems to be very controlling. In order to use their operating system, you need to use their phone. In order to use their phone, you have to have AT&T service.

With android, from what I understand, any phone can install the OS, therefore, allowing you to use any carrier.

Plus, the android UI looks pretty sweet.
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i think apple will not like this move from t-mobile as they are the only monopolistic partner they have in germany to sell the iPhone ... and they have a contract for the next 5 years ... so which phone will t-mobile promote in germany
trust me apple will have nothing to worry about. its all hype, you're talking about an actual OS vs a PHONE + OS. iphone the phone itself was design specifically to work with the apple iphone software.

i'm not impressed with any of the phones that will be running googles OS. the phones are just blah, and the OS to be honest is just a windows mobile knock off. looks like WinMo with a skin on it. its an OS for google fanboy's, this new OS just does not WOW me.

BUT! if the touch screen rocks as well as touch typing then... i'll reconsider

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The phone is friggin ugly.
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