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Old 08-28-2008, 09:43 AM   #1
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Veoh Porn Case Judge Rules in Favor of Tube Sites

Veoh Porn Case Judge Rules in Favor of Tube Sites
SACRAMENTO, Calif. ? In a decision that will affect every video-sharing site on the Internet, a U.S. District Court Judge ruled that just because a tube site encodes videos doesn't mean they control those videos.
The case involves the mainstream video-sharing site Veoh.com, which used to include an adults-only area. They got into legal trouble back in 2006 when the adult entertainment company IO Group, parent company of gay producer Titan Media, found some of their content on Veoh.

The IO Group sued, even though Veoh took down the videos when asked. The IO Group's case hinged on the claim that because the videos had gone through Veoh's encoding process, Veoh should therefore lose its right to protection under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act.

Judge Howard Lloyd threw out the IO Group's case on the grounds that the encoding process, which transforms the videos into the easy-to-use Flash format during upload, happens independently of the Veoh staff.

?Here, Veoh has simply established a system whereby software automatically processes user-submitted content and recasts it in a format that is readily accessible to its users," he wrote. ?Veoh preselects the software parameters for the process from a range of default values set by the thirdparty software,? the judge continued. ?But Veoh does not itself actively participate or supervise the uploading of files. Nor does it preview or select the files before the upload is completed. Instead, video files are uploaded through an automated process which is initiated entirely at the volition of Veoh?s users.?

The decision also includes language acknowledging the extreme difficulty in monitoring the vast amount of uploads that happen on sites like Veoh.

YouTube has been fighting with telecom giant Viacom for the past year in a $1 billion copyright infringement case; while the Veoh decision doesn't directly affect YouTube, the company's chief legal counsel praised the decision.

"It is great to see the court confirm that the DMCA protects services like YouTube that follow the law and respect copyrights," Zahavah Levine told TechCrunch.com. "YouTube has gone above and beyond the law to protect content owners while empowering people to communicate and share their experiences online. We work every day to give content owners choices about whether to take down, leave up, or even earn revenue from their videos, and we are developing state-of-the-art tools to let them do that even better."

The decision includes several guidelines for how video-sharing sites can make sure they're protected, including requirements that these sites:

? Tell users that uploading copyrighted material is prohibited.
? Comply with DCMA takedown notices.
? Take steps to control users who infringe on copyrights.
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Old 08-28-2008, 09:53 AM   #2
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Yes, DMCA is the law. Either you learn to live with that, or get it changed. Crying and whining in the meantime is not helping.
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Old 08-28-2008, 09:56 AM   #3
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we are creating laws in a new frontier here
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Old 08-28-2008, 09:58 AM   #4
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Veoh has tons and tons of illegal stuff like full movies, anime and tv shows.
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Old 08-28-2008, 10:06 AM   #6
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I have tube sites but I hardly believe that "1000's of uploads" is an excuse to
show copyrighted material.

All tube sites have the abilty to suspend uploads until they can approve them.
But some sites don't want to slow down the incomming content so they don't
give a shit. And that's they only reason they have copyrighted work on the site.

The judge just wants his free porn too an that's it.
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I have tube sites but I hardly believe that "1000's of uploads" is an excuse to
show copyrighted material.

All tube sites have the abilty to suspend uploads until they can approve them.
But some sites don't want to slow down the incomming content so they don't
give a shit. And that's they only reason they have copyrighted work on the site.

The judge just wants his free porn too an that's it.
also it can be the judge doesnt like porn and its a fuck you to the industry.
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Old 08-28-2008, 10:10 AM   #8
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The judge just wants his free porn too an that's it.
free gay porn in this case
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Old 08-28-2008, 10:18 AM   #9
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also it can be the judge doesnt like porn and its a fuck you to the industry.
Also it could be that the law is out of date but is still the law.

DMCA is the law of the land, suck it up or work to change it.
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Old 08-28-2008, 10:40 AM   #10
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These cases are clarification and have changed nothing for illegal tuber dickweeds.

? Tell users that uploading copyrighted material is prohibited.
? Comply with DCMA takedown notices.
? Take steps to control users who infringe on copyrights.


Nothing has changed.

Furthermore, a lot of the "users who infringe on copyrights" are the site's actual OWNERS. That would mean, under this ruling, they COMPLY with notices. They also stop, or "take steps to control users who infringe". In most cases, themselves in regards to illegal adult tubes.

So once again, no leg to stand on.

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Old 08-28-2008, 03:54 PM   #13
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for those of us keeping count that is 4/4
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