I want to learn Flash - GoFuckYourself.com

Trenton · 10-25-2002, 10:09 PM

How can I learn this shit? Is there like any good online tutorials? Or like a video seminar I can order?

How did you negros learn Flash? Did ya go to skool for it? I aint down with skool because I got other things to be doing.. so like a video I could watch while sitting at my computer would be cool.

Any recomendations?

Thanx

Brown Bear · 10-25-2002, 10:12 PM

Here is what I suggest:

Instead of learning flash, just spend your time making more money, then you can just hire some designer and get them to make the shit for you.

That's the Brown Bear tip of the day!

Marcus · 10-25-2002, 10:21 PM

And if anyone know something like this for video editing i'd like to know.

I'm trying to do shit with adobe premiere and having troubles here and there and noone knows how to edit videos and can help me out.

I'm looking for a crash course, either in a class (In Boston or NYC) or some good video tutes.

I can't learn anything from reading books...I zone out.

Trenton · 10-25-2002, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brown Bear
Here is what I suggest:

Instead of learning flash, just spend your time making more money, then you can just hire some designer and get them to make the shit for you.

That's the Brown Bear tip of the day!

Yeah... but I sort of like the artistic aspect of Flash. Some of those sites are really nice looking.

I do a lot of stuff in the non-adult world (I know...blasphemy) and would like to add some flash sites to my portfolio.

Thanx for the tip though

pine · 10-25-2002, 10:23 PM

lol @ brownbear. Some of us like to learn stuff, too.

Trenton:

http://www.flashkit.com/

http://www.ultrashock.com/

http://www.flashcomponents.net/

http://www.ingeniun.com/ :you'll need to know a little Spanish:

http://www.were-here.com/

...of course, there's lots of resources at macromedia.com, too.

Trenton · 10-25-2002, 10:24 PM

Ahh yeahhhh Niggga!!!

thanks!!!

kenny · 10-25-2002, 10:44 PM

I have a copy of Flash I think I use it to keep a table level now

Trenton · 10-25-2002, 10:46 PM

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Originally posted by kenny
I have a copy of Flash I think I use it to keep a table level now

yeah me too, that's why I want to figure it out. I spent the money for it, might as well use it.

Mutt · 10-25-2002, 11:11 PM

pretty steep learning curve to Flash. Think it helps alot if if you have a solid background in programming in at least one language.
Artistic skills aren't enough.

I stick to nothing more than animated text effects. Maybe one day i'll go to a week seminar.

Unless you are a designer full time I think your time is better spent doing something else. Porn surfers don't care about Flash. They really don't. They don't really appreciate much. You could make a site with nothing but {center} and {p}'s and it might even convert better than a $2,500 design.

Flash, fancy graphics, are more about a webmaster's ego and pride, plus some potential affiliates correlate cool design with professionalism and big playa status so it does help get you affiliates, smaller ones but affiliates just the same.

Trenton · 10-25-2002, 11:21 PM

I would never use Flash on an adult site.

As for the learning curve...fuck yeah it's steep! That's why I need some help. I can do some cool shit in photoshop, dreamweaver, javascript, DHTML.... but I cant figure out that Flash stuff!

UnseenWorld · 10-25-2002, 11:22 PM

Flash is suicide. Surfers hit the BACK button in droves when they encounter Flash.

Spoonie Luv · 10-25-2002, 11:22 PM

first, get a trenchcoat

pine · 10-25-2002, 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mutt

Flash, fancy graphics, are more about a webmaster's ego and pride

...he says. Rockin' a cool Flash sig-button, and some flashy Flash on his site.

Flash can be very, very useful to create eye-and-ear catching presentations. Isn't that what it's all about? I think surfers perceptions of Flash are changing...and Flash MX makes designing easier for non-programmers.

As for surfers hitting the back button...well, with OEM systems shipping out with 1.8ghz processors and 512megs of RAM, broadband connections becoming more commonplace, the times they are a changin'...Flash is a tool that can be used judiciously to enhance the surfers experience.

Damn, I sound like a Macromedia ad, so I will now STFU.

Trenton · 10-25-2002, 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by UnseenWorld
Flash is suicide. Surfers hit the BACK button in droves when they encounter Flash.

Thats been my experience for the most part too. However, when I come across a well done site...man does it look good! Seems the simple flash sites are better. The really fancy ones witht the long loading intros and stuff are a pain.

(we're still talkin non-adult sites here?)

RedShoe · 10-25-2002, 11:48 PM

I think Flash should be used as a tool, not the main backbone to a site.

Too much flash kills. A little bit for enhancements like banner ads or just little touches are good.

flashfreak · 10-26-2002, 02:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by UnseenWorld
Flash is suicide. Surfers hit the BACK button in droves when they encounter Flash.

yea? how do you know?
97% of active internet surfers have the plugin... where are the haters?

if it is as you said why top brands (let's say just: sony, philips) have their sites in flash or a lot of flash elements included (banners, intros, demos, panoramas...) ?

aaah .. I get it... they don't want surfers to eat their bandwith...

galleryseek · 10-26-2002, 03:26 AM

ah flash is definately something POSITIVE for a designer to learn. here is something too true when it comes to making eye catching flash

10% skill 90% creativity

most of all the impressive flash sites out there only consist of tweens, n' thats all it is. if you wanna design kickass flash, you first have to have an established base of design concept, if you don't have that.. then theres not really any use of attempting flash if your primary goal is to make impressive sites.

tony286 · 10-26-2002, 05:25 AM

This is for the guy, who wanted to learn video editing. There is an excellent video "getting started with Premiere 6" its short and to the point. You can get it at wwwgettingstartedvideo.com

Pornwolf · 10-26-2002, 08:13 AM

The great thing about Macromedia is their tutorials that are included with all of the products is top notch.

I learned how to use all of the products buy following the lessons in the tutorials in the help tab.

Check it out. After you are finish taking the lesson just imagine what you want a project to look like and try to make it. The Contents search index in help is extra useful when you get stuck.

I'm Slim · 10-26-2002, 09:11 AM

I wanna learn how to give a proper rimjob

tanco521 · 10-26-2002, 10:32 AM

Give this a shot...cheap as hell and easy as balls to operate. Does almost everything you'll ever need to do.
http://www.swishzone.com/

Machete_ · 10-26-2002, 10:40 AM

Just play with it man.. (heard that one before

)

You only learn by downloading and woorking with it.

here is some links:

Der Bauer - Best designers
Halo lounge - Der Bauer made that
Flashkit - Go here for help and downloads
CWD - A large index og GREAT design... look for inspiration

And look at this.. its my new project, should be done next week
New Project

Pornwolf · 10-26-2002, 10:42 AM

I use swish first sometimes and import it into Flash MX. The quality comes out better that way

Fletch XXX · 10-26-2002, 10:47 AM

I click 'no flash' on sites all day.

tanco521 · 10-26-2002, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
I click 'no flash' on sites all day.

so do i...if i have a choice. i actually think a little bit of flash will enhance certain sites, specifically affiliate program sites. i dont think they are necessary for pay sites or tgps or anything else because a lot of people still do no have flash.

Pornwolf · 10-26-2002, 10:56 AM

My 76 year old grandmother has flash on her pentium 133. Flash in moderation is visible by most people who have plumbing.

3Xguru · 10-26-2002, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Trenton
I would never use Flash on an adult site.

This means that you do not know the power of adult games.

I was thinking the same way as you did. I was very good in Flash so I started to make adult games. I was not sure that people would buy such games. But after making the first game(Strip Poker) and having a huge succes with it I realised that there is a market for such games. The reason there is a market is that surfers actualy love to play adult games.

So now I wouldn't say that I wouldn't use Flash on adult sites. Now I produce Flash stuff for adult games(Just check out the e-card on my site and you'll know what I'm talking about).

pine · 10-26-2002, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ebus_dk

Halo lounge - Der Bauer made that

The nav bar on that sites ROCKS

Machete_ · 10-26-2002, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by pine

The nav bar on that sites ROCKS

yep--- the best I've ever seen.... beats Gabocorps old "revolver"

Machete_ · 10-26-2002, 12:23 PM

Gabocorp
2Advvanc
This is a funny one..

flashfreak · 10-26-2002, 02:13 PM

a good resource site: http://www.actionscripts.org

swish is not flash... it's just an application that makes fancy effects.. I'd recommend it if you need flash effects done fast .. but if you know actionscript you can make the same effects and your file size will be cutted by half.
I'd recommend Flax if you're searching for text effrects.. way better than swish...

10-25-2002, 10:09 PM	#1
Trenton Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Albany Posts: 471	I want to learn Flash How can I learn this shit? Is there like any good online tutorials? Or like a video seminar I can order? How did you negros learn Flash? Did ya go to skool for it? I aint down with skool because I got other things to be doing.. so like a video I could watch while sitting at my computer would be cool. Any recomendations? Thanx

10-25-2002, 10:12 PM	#2
Brown Bear Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 4,982	Here is what I suggest: Instead of learning flash, just spend your time making more money, then you can just hire some designer and get them to make the shit for you. That's the Brown Bear tip of the day! __________________ Surrender all your independent thinking and Click Here for re-programming.

10-25-2002, 10:23 PM	#5
pine Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Falls, eh Posts: 1,373	lol @ brownbear. Some of us like to learn stuff, too. Trenton: http://www.flashkit.com/ http://www.ultrashock.com/ http://www.flashcomponents.net/ http://www.ingeniun.com/ :you'll need to know a little Spanish: http://www.were-here.com/ ...of course, there's lots of resources at macromedia.com, too. __________________ unattended error: ID 10 T. Check connection between keyboard and chair.

10-25-2002, 11:11 PM	#9
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	pretty steep learning curve to Flash. Think it helps alot if if you have a solid background in programming in at least one language. Artistic skills aren't enough. I stick to nothing more than animated text effects. Maybe one day i'll go to a week seminar. Unless you are a designer full time I think your time is better spent doing something else. Porn surfers don't care about Flash. They really don't. They don't really appreciate much. You could make a site with nothing but {center} and {p}'s and it might even convert better than a $2,500 design. Flash, fancy graphics, are more about a webmaster's ego and pride, plus some potential affiliates correlate cool design with professionalism and big playa status so it does help get you affiliates, smaller ones but affiliates just the same. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly! Last edited by Mutt; 10-25-2002 at 11:13 PM..

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UnseenWorld Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Portland, OR, USA Posts: 5,279	Flash is suicide. Surfers hit the BACK button in droves when they encounter Flash. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

10-25-2002, 10:21 PM	#3
Marcus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 3,472	And if anyone know something like this for video editing i'd like to know. I'm trying to do shit with adobe premiere and having troubles here and there and noone knows how to edit videos and can help me out. I'm looking for a crash course, either in a class (In Boston or NYC) or some good video tutes. I can't learn anything from reading books...I zone out.

10-25-2002, 10:24 PM	#6
Trenton Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Albany Posts: 471	Ahh yeahhhh Niggga!!! thanks!!!

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kenny Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,245	I have a copy of Flash I think I use it to keep a table level now

10-25-2002, 11:21 PM	#10
Trenton Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Albany Posts: 471	I would never use Flash on an adult site. As for the learning curve...fuck yeah it's steep! That's why I need some help. I can do some cool shit in photoshop, dreamweaver, javascript, DHTML.... but I cant figure out that Flash stuff!

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RedShoe 赤い靴 call me 202-456-1111 Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: The Valley Posts: 14,831	I think Flash should be used as a tool, not the main backbone to a site. Too much flash kills. A little bit for enhancements like banner ads or just little touches are good. __________________ SPECIALTY COSTUMES • PROPS • FX Superheroes • Monsters • Robots PM for details For any manufacturing needs. Adult or otherwise. aka BonsHigh on Insta Bonsai weed plants

10-26-2002, 03:26 AM	#17
galleryseek Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 8,234	ah flash is definately something POSITIVE for a designer to learn. here is something too true when it comes to making eye catching flash 10% skill 90% creativity most of all the impressive flash sites out there only consist of tweens, n' thats all it is. if you wanna design kickass flash, you first have to have an established base of design concept, if you don't have that.. then theres not really any use of attempting flash if your primary goal is to make impressive sites.

10-26-2002, 05:25 AM	#18
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	This is for the guy, who wanted to learn video editing. There is an excellent video "getting started with Premiere 6" its short and to the point. You can get it at wwwgettingstartedvideo.com

10-26-2002, 08:13 AM	#19
Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	The great thing about Macromedia is their tutorials that are included with all of the products is top notch. I learned how to use all of the products buy following the lessons in the tutorials in the help tab. Check it out. After you are finish taking the lesson just imagine what you want a project to look like and try to make it. The Contents search index in help is extra useful when you get stuck. __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.

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10-26-2002, 10:32 AM	#21
tanco521 Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 130	Give this a shot...cheap as hell and easy as balls to operate. Does almost everything you'll ever need to do. http://www.swishzone.com/

10-26-2002, 10:40 AM	#22
Machete_ WINNING! Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 14,579	Just play with it man.. (heard that one before ) You only learn by downloading and woorking with it. here is some links: Der Bauer - Best designers Halo lounge - Der Bauer made that Flashkit - Go here for help and downloads CWD - A large index og GREAT design... look for inspiration And look at this.. its my new project, should be done next week New Project

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Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	I use swish first sometimes and import it into Flash MX. The quality comes out better that way __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.

10-26-2002, 10:47 AM	#24
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	I click 'no flash' on sites all day. __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

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Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	My 76 year old grandmother has flash on her pentium 133. Flash in moderation is visible by most people who have plumbing. __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.

10-26-2002, 12:23 PM	#30
Machete_ WINNING! Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 14,579	Gabocorp 2Advvanc This is a funny one..

10-26-2002, 02:13 PM	#31
flashfreak Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: cloud number 9 Posts: 4,396	a good resource site: http://www.actionscripts.org swish is not flash... it's just an application that makes fancy effects.. I'd recommend it if you need flash effects done fast .. but if you know actionscript you can make the same effects and your file size will be cutted by half. I'd recommend Flax if you're searching for text effrects.. way better than swish... __________________ SEO Mogul \| ICQ: 163671223