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Kard63 · 08-10-2008, 08:19 PM

This is 100% opt in mailing and not porn. Is a penny a mail about right or should I get more quotes?

marketsmart · 08-10-2008, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Kard63

This is 100% opt in mailing and not porn. Is a penny a mail about right or should I get more quotes?

is this your db or theirs?

Kard63 · 08-10-2008, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart

is this your db or theirs?

My list. 40,000 mails.

klaze · 08-10-2008, 08:27 PM

spam is spam is spam is spam.

Kard63 · 08-10-2008, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by klaze

spam is spam is spam is spam.

Nope all opt in

marketsmart · 08-10-2008, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Kard63

My list. 40,000 mails.

400 is a little steep... but, if you trust the mailer than its not that bad...

make sure you seed your list with many random email addys and dont use dupes...

marketsmart · 08-10-2008, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Kard63

Nope all opt in

btw.. if you are the source for the emails collected and not buying co reg data, you should set up your own mailings....

96ukssob · 08-10-2008, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Kard63

This is 100% opt in mailing and not porn. Is a penny a mail about right or should I get more quotes?

it depends on if they can get past spam filters and AOL and their previous open rates. if so, then thats not a bad price. you really wont see a price break until you get into the 500,000+

Kard63 · 08-10-2008, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart

btw.. if you are the source for the emails collected and not buying co reg data, you should set up your own mailings....

Do it myself so my list isnt stolen?

xxweekxx · 08-10-2008, 11:09 PM

so what if you buy coreg emails.. what are your options for mailing em

marketsmart · 08-10-2008, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Kard63

Do it myself so my list isnt stolen?

that is one reason... also, more control, cheaper, and a few other things..

xxweekxx · 08-11-2008, 12:06 AM

so? marketsmart..

if you buy coregs what are you options?

Thanks man

marketsmart · 08-11-2008, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by xxweekxx

so? marketsmart..

if you buy coregs what are you options?

Thanks man

it depends on what you are trying to accomplish... my friends that mail co reg are telling me that deliverability is getting worse and worse..

if you arent afraid to lose a good % of ther data you buy, i would suggest using a service like aweber and sending a confirmation email to get people to close loop confirm to your list..

you may get a small return on people, but i guarantee you that you will have a good list and if you market the right product to that list you will do very well...

i am just scratching the surface here, but its a starting point..

Gaybucks · 08-11-2008, 03:51 AM

We've been using Jangomail.com which is a small company but seems to be very focused on high deliverability and has all sorts of tools to check deliverability of a given message, as well as detailed reporting. They charge somewhere around 1 to 2 cents/msg depending on volume. I know that we're getting through to the tough-to-deliver ISPs like AOL, because we get occasional remove requests from our AOL subscribers.

We switched from another company based in Montreal who was worse than awful, and used a couple of others before that. All of the prices were around the same.

Jangomail is also OK with adult, and is one of the few I've found with advanced database integration tools so you can actually keep your own database and have Jango write directly to your database with unsubscribes, etc. I'm sure there are others that are as good or better, and probably cheaper, but the combination of service and support has made us happy with them.

DamianJ · 08-11-2008, 05:24 AM

Seems to be a bit of confusion here on certain terms used in mailing.

Deliverability - this has nothing to do with the quality of the list. It is the term used to describe the effectiveness of your ESP to deliver mail. ie to get into AOL or Hotmail etc.

Open Rates - your ESP is not responsible for your open rates. Your subject line and the display name you use are. (Yes, recency and frequency of mailings along with the initial hygeine of the list will effect this, but the main thing is the subject line. Finding an ESP that offers decent A/B split testing to let you optimise your copy writing is essential).

Getting the email to the inbox is really the easy part if you work with a good ESP. What I would be looking for though is the quality of the reporting you get. There is NO POINT sending email without measuring it. Testing it. Tweaking it. Improving it.

1 cent per email is an OK price for that small a volume, as long as they have decent reporting software.

Damian

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08-11-2008, 05:24 AM	#15
DamianJ Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: A magical land Posts: 15,808	Seems to be a bit of confusion here on certain terms used in mailing. Deliverability - this has nothing to do with the quality of the list. It is the term used to describe the effectiveness of your ESP to deliver mail. ie to get into AOL or Hotmail etc. Open Rates - your ESP is not responsible for your open rates. Your subject line and the display name you use are. (Yes, recency and frequency of mailings along with the initial hygeine of the list will effect this, but the main thing is the subject line. Finding an ESP that offers decent A/B split testing to let you optimise your copy writing is essential). Getting the email to the inbox is really the easy part if you work with a good ESP. What I would be looking for though is the quality of the reporting you get. There is NO POINT sending email without measuring it. Testing it. Tweaking it. Improving it. 1 cent per email is an OK price for that small a volume, as long as they have decent reporting software. Damian