Woman sentenced for Obscenity over the written word. - GoFuckYourself.com

PornNewz · 08-07-2008, 01:15 PM

PITTSBURGH ? A western Pennsylvania woman has been sentenced to probation and house arrest for posting graphic fictional stories about the torture and sexual abuse of children on the Web.

Karen Fletcher, of Donora, was sentenced Thursday in federal court in Pittsburgh after pleading guilty to violating federal obscenity law. She was sentenced to five years of probation, six months of house arrest and ordered to pay a $1,000 fine.

Fletcher says she was sorry and her intention wasn?t to hurt anyone. She posted the stories on her Web site and charged customers $10 a month to view them.

Her lawyer has said the stories were a way for Fletcher to cope with abuse she faced as a child.

Article Here

pornguy · 08-07-2008, 01:17 PM

That is the biggest bunch of fucking bullshit I have ever heard

Trixxxia · 08-07-2008, 01:18 PM

one http// too many in the link

PornNewz · 08-07-2008, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Trixxxia

one http// too many in the link

oops, thanks!
http://www.pornnewz.com/2008/08/pa-w...-tales-on-web/http://www.pornnewz.com/2008/08/pa-w...-tales-on-web/

Sands · 08-07-2008, 01:21 PM

If you watch the Xbiz legal seminar videos they have posted on their site then you'll be able to hear the interesting back story from Larry Walters on this. Essentially, Karen Fletcher is very mentally troubled... to the point where her agoraphobia would prevent her from sitting in a courtroom (let alone serve a prison term). Luckily for her the feds were sympathetic... very luckily for her. I guess it's still a W in the governments record, though.

Edit: oops, I see this is mentioned in the article. Oh well, check out the seminar video anyway!

SykkBoy · 08-07-2008, 01:22 PM

it's such a tough thing to do...
defending free speech, and still having to defend deplorable speech right along side it...

ADL Colin · 08-07-2008, 01:24 PM

This whole "distribution through interstate commerce" argument is such BS

PornNewz · 08-07-2008, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornNewz

oops, thanks!
http://www.pornnewz.com/2008/08/pa-w...-tales-on-web/http://www.pornnewz.com/2008/08/pa-w...-tales-on-web/

Damn, rough day over here!

TubeTitans_SusieQ · 08-07-2008, 01:25 PM

om goodnesss

czarina · 08-07-2008, 01:29 PM

I totally agree that stories about children are obscene. But the government has no right to condemn anybody for that. It's totally fictional and no real kids were involved so it doesn't really hurt anyone. This stupid government is getting out of control!

DAMNMAN · 08-07-2008, 01:42 PM

I don't even know how the written word can be judged as obscene under the constitution of the United States. Words are 100% percent covered in that Doc.

Even if the girl wrote some vial CP from hell I don't see how it can be prosecuted successfully. Yet it has!!!!!!

(Unfortunately I have to add the standard disclaimer here: I ain't with the CP thing and ain't defending that.)

She should be able write what she want's and the government should keep out of it.

If this is the case they need to do after the publishers of Julliette, 120 day in Sodom and Philosohpy in the bedroom by the Marquis DeSade too.

I must say that this obscenity BS that has come back recently is FUCKED.
They way that it stands the charge of obscenity is absolutely vague, it is a crime you can commit with out knowing you commited it. Where is the line and who is in charge of what is and is not obscene.... This shit puts the fear of god's henchmen in me......

testpie · 08-07-2008, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sands

Karen Fletcher is very mentally troubled... to the point where her agoraphobia would prevent her from sitting in a courtroom...

So her punishment of "house arrest" is equivalent to sentencing any other criminal to x months "real life"?

Way to punish the woman...

tony286 · 08-07-2008, 02:57 PM

When they start going after the written word that's scary.

DWB · 08-07-2008, 02:59 PM

So much for freedom of speech. Wow.

That is SCARY shit.

Libertine · 08-07-2008, 03:21 PM

Awesome.

They just made it possible to commit a crime by doing a search/replace on a text file.

xmas13 · 08-07-2008, 03:37 PM

The government makes me laugh, always hitting on the isolated defenseless citizen, not on Hollywood or New York for their ultra-violent music/cinema/video games called "entertainment".

Yeah right. Porn is wrong, saying nigga gets you fired, but murder-related content is fine.

What a joke.

Dems and Reps in the same basket.

Quentin · 08-07-2008, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAMNMAN

I don't even know how the written word can be judged as obscene under the constitution of the United States. Words are 100% percent covered in that Doc.

Unfortunately, this is not true.

The Miller test has been upheld as constitutional repeatedly by the courts, and stands as the legal definition of obscenity in the U.S., despite its being extremely vague -- and the Miller test does cover both depictions and descriptions.

It's true that there have been very few obscenity prosecutions targeting the written word since the early 1970's, but the statutory language that defines U.S. obscenity law makes it pretty clear that the government can indict text-only works as obscene... it's senseless to do it, IMO, but it's within the scope of the government's power (currently, at least), whether we like it or not.

xmas13 · 08-07-2008, 03:45 PM

Murder is not just fine in 2008, it's "COOL", but johns are still persecuted on CL by fat and lazy cops sitting behind their computers.

This society is so ridiculous.

xmas13 · 08-07-2008, 03:50 PM

Where are "human rights advocates"?

The beginning of the answer:

http://www.newstatesman.com/business...curity-company

According to the private espionage industry itself, roughly one in four of your comrades is on a multinational's payroll.

Russell Corn, managing director of Diligence, one of a growing number of "corporate intelligence agencies", with offices high in the Canary Wharf glass tower, says private spies make up 25 per cent of every activist camp. "If you stuck an intercept up near one of those camps, you wouldn't believe the amount of outgoing calls after every meeting saying, 'Tomorrow we're going to cut the fence'," he smiles. "Easily one in four of the people there are taking the corporate shilling."

PornNewz · 08-07-2008, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

When they start going after the written word that's scary.

very!!!!

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DAMNMAN Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,440	I don't even know how the written word can be judged as obscene under the constitution of the United States. Words are 100% percent covered in that Doc. Even if the girl wrote some vial CP from hell I don't see how it can be prosecuted successfully. Yet it has!!!!!! (Unfortunately I have to add the standard disclaimer here: I ain't with the CP thing and ain't defending that.) She should be able write what she want's and the government should keep out of it. If this is the case they need to do after the publishers of Julliette, 120 day in Sodom and Philosohpy in the bedroom by the Marquis DeSade too. I must say that this obscenity BS that has come back recently is FUCKED. They way that it stands the charge of obscenity is absolutely vague, it is a crime you can commit with out knowing you commited it. Where is the line and who is in charge of what is and is not obscene.... This shit puts the fear of god's henchmen in me...... __________________ email: zmaster (at) earthlink.net ICQ: 196678616 ZMASTER One less god!!! I contend that we are both an atheist. I just belive in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.

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