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jimmyf 10-25-2002 09:11 AM

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Originally posted by TheMan
This guy from drawnsex.com is a sneaky bastard. he has many domains and switches layouts to nice clean ass galleries. It's hard to keep track of his galleries. I know the first like 10 ips that checks his page will see the gallery and then after that every surfer will see his redirected page. He messes with me also and submits every damn day with a new url, new host, new domains, new e-mail and new sponsors. I just keep blacklisting him everyday after i catch him. he wont go away!
You people should get together... Lensman thehun and other's..if you have been black listing him you must have a lot of his domain's...
If he's the USA Lensman I think there is a law for what he did so go after his ass...RAT now

Sly_RJ 10-25-2002 09:12 AM

The whole "he did bad, I'mma image source him!" tactic is complete bull shit, IMO. Someone fucks with TGP, TGP decides to fuck back with someone and anyone doing business with someone. Not cool, and immature.

ControlThy 10-25-2002 09:12 AM

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Originally posted by The Hun
Oh, don't worry, I have no problem whatsoever resolving any fraction I might have with Lensman 'cause of this. He can mail me over his damages and I will have no problem taking care of it. I take responsibility for what I do. In this case I'm sorry GFY got the blow for a problem.
Good, this issue has been handled.

Just don't hurt Gofuckyourself.com again, you sadist.

Jon2 10-25-2002 09:14 AM

Like I said I am glad to see him taking responsibility...But I don't agree with the huns ways of handling things...By img scr people you could (again) hurt other sites and peoples business's...

How do you know if someone is on a dedicated or on a virtual with other users...Or do you care?

Jon

Mike69 10-25-2002 09:15 AM

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Originally posted by PersianKitty


Boy doesn't it ever use the resources.

hehe.. Mike... I didn't know that GOD was Canadian ;)

Hey PK,

You didn't know that?? lmao... its true, all Canadians are gods...:evil-laug


Isn't that right [Labret] ????


but yes it is a huge drain!!!! I'm sure you know all about it...

grumpy 10-25-2002 09:16 AM

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Originally posted by mika
Where did you get your ego, Hun?

If someone cheats your tgp how does that give you a right to cause even more severe damage to the cheater's isp, other people using that isp (if it's virtual) and as can - again - be seen, even totally 3rd party companies?

You dont get it do you?
Someone gets a link on the hun.
When the traffic is coming he redirect his traffic to GFY.
Who is to blame then????? Not the hun, he is sending his traffic to that gallerie. The guy who is rederecting the traffic is responsible. He is not imagsourcing the site.

Fletch XXX 10-25-2002 09:18 AM

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Originally posted by grumpy


You dont get it do you?
Someone gets a link on the hun.
When the traffic is coming he redirect his traffic to GFY.
Who is to blame then????? Not the hun, he is sending his traffic to that gallerie. The guy who is rederecting the traffic is responsible. He is not imagsourcing the site.

No I think his isnt 'just' redirecting. He is redirecting the Huns retaliation, is that whats hitting GFY since its showing him as the referrer?

Quote:

Originally posted by The Hun


In this case he was 'smart' enough to redirect the traffic to GFY, which 'caused it to go down. If I hadn't launch the initial attack he couldn't have done that. So I feel responsible for any damages that may come out of this 'cause I did have part in this all.


Jon2 10-25-2002 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by grumpy


You dont get it do you?
Someone gets a link on the hun.
When the traffic is coming he redirect his traffic to GFY.
Who is to blame then????? Not the hun, he is sending his traffic to that gallerie. The guy who is rederecting the traffic is responsible. He is not imagsourcing the site.

Perhaps not this time....But he has many times before...

Jon

Mike69 10-25-2002 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Hun
Oh, don't worry, I have no problem whatsoever resolving any fraction I might have with Lensman 'cause of this. He can mail me over his damages and I will have no problem taking care of it. I take responsibility for what I do. In this case I'm sorry GFY got the blow for a problem I had with drawnsex, but drawnsex is the one to blame for this, not me.



Ok, I'll forgive you for getting me up early and having to deal with this, if you list 10 of my galleries a day for the next year... OK??

:1orglaugh

RockDaddy 10-25-2002 09:20 AM

That's probably the same guy who caused me to just give up accepting submissions and go strictly to sponsor provided galleries.

If I had the traffic, I'd of taken his ass down myself.

funkmaster 10-25-2002 09:20 AM

" ... give you a right to cause even more severe damage to the cheater's isp, other people using that isp (if it's virtual) and as can ..."

... and in this case what about the boxes that share the router with the attacked domain at candihosting.com ???

Lensman 10-25-2002 09:22 AM

The attack is still underway, The Hun and I have been working together to shut down some theives, and I think this is a retalitory attack.

I haven't been able to bin down exactly where on his page the code is though.

Lensman 10-25-2002 09:26 AM

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Originally posted by funkmaster
" ... give you a right to cause even more severe damage to the cheater's isp, other people using that isp (if it's virtual) and as can ..."

... and in this case what about the boxes that share the router with the attacked domain at candihosting.com ???

A. GFY is in our own datacenter.

B. It doesn't effect anything else on our network, the server GFY is on can take a couple million hits a day, but it's the VBulletin scripts that can't. Mike's filter works great as you can see, but it has to deny 100,000 connections an hour!

Fletch XXX 10-25-2002 09:26 AM

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Originally posted by Lensman
The attack is still underway, The Hun and I have been working together to shut down some theives, and I think this is a retalitory attack.

You guys are the ones who are in power to do so.

Nice.

We will sit it out.

:smokin

redshift 10-25-2002 09:29 AM

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Originally posted by The Hun
Ok, here's the full explanation of this.

I've been bugged by someone running drawnsex.com. He builds good galleries which are usually listed, and then redirects part of his traffic to rape sites. I find out shortly after he changed it by reports from visitors, but still he annoys the shit out of me. We had an argument before. He hides behind everything he can, doesn't have the balls to talk to me directly, but is smart enough a programmer to redirect the traffic I was sending his way ;-)

Anyway, this guy is a pain in the ass. And he has not seen the last of me. I'd be watching my server very closely if I were him. There's a lot more arrows on my bow. This attack was redirected to FGY, and I'm sorry for that, but drawnsex.com is to blame for this one. There will be more to follow. If people can't just stick to the rules and deliberately cheat on others and keep doing it even when I simply request he stops cheating on me and my visitors it's time for some action.

I don't know if anybody is in contact with this irritating little kid. He doesn't want to listen... so I'll have to resolve to other methods of getting him to stop

It's pretty pathetic to see someone in this business that doesn't seem to be able to make money the honest way, but has to resolve on cheating on link-sites to make himself some doe... Very pathetic...


why dont you go ahead and make thehun a private submit only tgp?

I would even pay for this - like im doing with some other tgp's?

TheMan 10-25-2002 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lensman
The attack is still underway, The Hun and I have been working together to shut down some theives, and I think this is a retalitory attack.

I haven't been able to bin down exactly where on his page the code is though.

Like i said... He has some sort of thing that tracks the first 10 ip's. Then after that all the ip's will be redirected to the url of his choice. You will find nothing in his source.

Lensman 10-25-2002 09:41 AM

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Originally posted by Due
Use htaccess to setup a password for traffic comming from thehun.net.
Redirect 401 to a password protected area. And redirect that to a password protected area. etc etc.
Then visiting thehun would be very annoying since it will keep asking for a password all the time and mayby thehun will figure out some other way to deal with cheaters or whatever it is.

You're an idea man, I like that.

ServerGenius 10-25-2002 09:46 AM

If it's in your own datacenter why not block it in the router instead
of having a server to deal with it......? this can't be too hard to stop.

DynaMite :2 cents:

Mike69 10-25-2002 09:53 AM

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Originally posted by DynaSpain
If it's in your own datacenter why not block it in the router instead
of having a server to deal with it......? this can't be too hard to stop.

DynaMite :2 cents:

Hmmm, never seen a router block by referring URL.... IP, Mac Address ect but not by URL. I'd like to get a look at that router.

pornjudge 10-25-2002 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Hun
This attack was redirected to FGY, and I'm sorry for that, but drawnsex.com is to blame for

Hey the Hun, its GFY & not FGY, just in case you forgot:)

jimmyf 10-25-2002 09:56 AM

How come awhile ago I wanted to post a quote to someone and GFY poped a screen User: Password: and I think Domain... I had to reboot....

J B 10-25-2002 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheMan


Like i said... He has some sort of thing that tracks the first 10 ip's. Then after that all the ip's will be redirected to the url of his choice. You will find nothing in his source.

If that's all they do it shouldn't be too difficult to catch them. If somebody wants to discuss this just hit me up on ICQ (5210719).

Nasty 10-25-2002 10:01 AM

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Originally posted by Mutt
Excuse me?:eek7

You say he's pulled this shit on you before YET you still take his galleries cuz they're pretty good?

This makes no sense.

Why haven't you banned all submissions from him? Not like you are hard up for submissions Hun.

I had a bunch of these galleries slip past me on my tgp, he does not use drawnsex to post, he uses several different nameservers and 50+ domains to post with and his galleries are top notch

FATPad 10-25-2002 10:04 AM

Make people pay to submit galleries. Less cheaters.

Whatever happened with that idea anyways? I liked it.

421Fill 10-25-2002 10:10 AM

I'm with TGF.. shoulda just listed my galleries... 1 every 3 days, and I've never ever tried to cheat. :)

Seriously, though, it is kind of frustrating to never get listed inlieu of pricks like this drawnsex guy getting listed enough to be able to cause something like this. hrm.

Ron2k1 10-25-2002 10:25 AM

I find The Hun's action a little amateuristic, but I'm impressed by the power of The Hun.

Jer 10-25-2002 10:27 AM

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Originally posted by PersianKitty

hehe.. Mike... I didn't know that GOD was Canadian ;)

PK, that's because GOD IS BRAZILIAN

Ace-Ace 10-25-2002 10:30 AM

Interesting situation here...fun to follow.

foe 10-25-2002 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mutt
Excuse me?:eek7

You say he's pulled this shit on you before YET you still take his galleries cuz they're pretty good?

This makes no sense.

Have you heard the expression - "Fool me once shame on you, Fool me twice shame on me!" ?

Why haven't you banned all submissions from him? Not like you are hard up for submissions Hun.

Or as Bush would say it "Fool me once shame on"

Va2k 10-25-2002 10:33 AM

Well FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK KKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I did NOT know how much iam addicated to this place. SHIT Couldnt get on since I got up fucked my whole day up... HOLY shit I need to find where I left my life and go back and beg it to come back home. :helpme

The Hun 10-25-2002 10:35 AM

There was a discussion about paying for submissions and such a while back here on the GFY. I see one big problem with it that made me decide not to go through with it: it would create an obligation. I think when people pay to be able to submit that they'd be pissed off if I would decline their gallery 'cause I didn't think it was good enough. I could put this all in the rules and everything, but if I'd decline it money would be wasted.

The only way to clear that problem would be to accept the galleries first and then let the payment decide if an accepted gallery would indeed be listed or not. Problem with that is that if a cheater would know the submission would be placed he'd pay some money for it to let it go through. The fees wouldn't be too hight. I will have payment information for a submitter like that, that's true... 'cause ways of payment are harder to come by than IP-addresses...

I realise the whole IMG-Source thing (which is roughly what I did, it works a little differently) could take down people that are 'merely' on the same server with another virtual account. In this particular case that wasn't how it was. But I used this trick before. This is all about people that do not want to listen and fail to show any respect for me, my site and my rules (which I can set on my own site I think). It is a 'last resort'... well, not truely, there's some other tricks I have up my sleeve, but I never had to use those yet, it will be a lot of fun finding out if they would work.

I'm pretty sure the kid who runs Drawnsex reads this as well, so I won't go into detail. But don't worry, he'll be the first to know anyway ;-).

I had to make excuses to hosts and stuff before. They all don't like the results of the actions taken, but most of 'em respect the reason I did it. The host is warned about any violations or cheats someone is pulling. The img source is only used if this host fails to even give so much as a reply...

It's a very shady thing to do, I realise that 100%. But would you do nothing if people disrespect any of your rules and 'cause hundreds of your visitors to be caught in a site stuffed with rape pictures and dialer programs?

In this case I wrote online-dialer, which is the company drawnsex.com is sending traffic to. Not even a single reply from them. Next time a gallery sneaks through I might have to pull this very stunt I did here directly on the host. Or I might want to find a better way first ;-)

Anyway, this whole cheating business every now and then pisses me off so much that I spend a lot of time trying to get these people down. My visitors get pissed off 'cause of drawnsex and I will do just about everything to keep my visitors happy. I'm sure this drawnsex kid does this to pretty much all link-sites out there. He goes by a lot of domains and a lot of names.

Cheaters do cause a lot of work. I blacklisted the whole of Cogent simply 'cause they were a haven for mostly Russian webmasters who cheated on every possible way. And they had accounts on pretty much all cogent's boxes. Blacklisting a domain-name wouldn't work. A couple of bucks buys you a new domain. It's not that webmasters are too lazy to blacklist only the cheaters instead of the entire domain, it's just almost impossible to filter out the rotten apples completely without blacklisting the whole IP-range. Another example of the good having to suffer for the bad. Unfortunately that's how things start to be...

DarkJedi 10-25-2002 10:40 AM

Hun, please make payed submissions.

1. Lots of bullshit posters will be eliminated
2. Quality would skyrocket
3. Honest webmasters will benefit
4. There will be much less cheaters

Ramster 10-25-2002 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by turbo
I'm with TGF.. shoulda just listed my galleries... 1 every 3 days, and I've never ever tried to cheat. :)

Seriously, though, it is kind of frustrating to never get listed inlieu of pricks like this drawnsex guy getting listed enough to be able to cause something like this. hrm.

I hear ya. I usually get listed at thehun. But only about 2, maybe 3 galleries per month. I follow the rules and submit every 4-5 days only. Never cheated, never will. (Thanks btw!)

The reason a guy like that asshole gets listed all the time is he is probably a good designer of galleries and he is buying new fresh content to build galleries with. When a sponsor lists new content, he buys, builds and submits. Then cheats like the rat asshole he is.

:BangBang:

421Fill 10-25-2002 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Hun


Cheaters do cause a lot of work. I blacklisted the whole of Cogent simply 'cause they were a haven for mostly Russian webmasters who cheated on every possible way. And they had accounts on pretty much all cogent's boxes. Blacklisting a domain-name wouldn't work. A couple of bucks buys you a new domain. It's not that webmasters are too lazy to blacklist only the cheaters instead of the entire domain, it's just almost impossible to filter out the rotten apples completely without blacklisting the whole IP-range. Another example of the good having to suffer for the bad. Unfortunately that's how things start to be...

woah. good thing my host uses Verio.

Jon2 10-25-2002 10:44 AM

The hun...

The whole img scr thing is complete bullshit...

You effect other people more then your target...You can slow down routers...You can slow down servers...You could put a grinding halt to a entire network...

Do you not feel bad about this?

Not to mention it is illegal...This isn't all about people that don't want to listen...Its about you thinking you can just use your traffic to take down entire servers because they didn't respect you...What about all the users who didn't even fucken know you? I doubt they would respect you after you caused their site to go down for no fucken reason....

This is the bad thing about people with alot of traffic...They think they are god or something....

Jon

X37375787 10-25-2002 10:45 AM

Hun, do you have any idea about the psychological damage you caused :sadcrying I don't think I'll ever recover... GFY can't ever be down ... :warning

X37375787 10-25-2002 10:46 AM

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Originally posted by qualitythumbs


This is the bad thing about people with alot of traffic...They think they are god or something....




They are. At least on the internet.

TDF 10-25-2002 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Hun
... impossible to filter out the rotten apples completely without blacklisting the whole IP-range. Another example of the good having to suffer for the bad. Unfortunately that's how things start to be...
so rape isnt allowed but beasts are?

Jon2 10-25-2002 10:48 AM

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Originally posted by Equinox




They are. At least on the internet.

Hell no they ain't...Its cool and all they got that much traffic...congrats and whatnot...But I don't fucken care if someone has 10 hits a day or 1,000,000 hits a day...I ain't gonna look at em or treat em any differently...

I understand the hun feels he is being disrespected...But...I don't think its worth effecting innocent people...

Jon

Pornwolf 10-25-2002 10:51 AM

He blocked the whole of Cogent!

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha !

Between that and being able to shut down the # 1 adult webmaster message board with a fraction of his traffic I'm starting to wonder if he should really change his name to Thor!


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