Any Way To Tweak Upload Speeds ? - GoFuckYourself.com

DeanCapture · 07-27-2008, 09:22 AM

I have the Road Runner Extreme Cable package and I'm very happy with my download speed but my upload speed is shit....it's 120 kbps! Are there any devices that will help me get faster upload speeds or is this all controlled by the ISP?

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE · 07-27-2008, 09:26 AM

Buy a better pipe...

baddog · 07-27-2008, 09:29 AM

Talk to Roadrunner. If you have fiber in your neighborhood, you should be able to get speeds like this.

rowan · 07-27-2008, 09:31 AM

Is that 120 kbytes or kbit/sec? Where are you getting that measurement from?

If it's upload speed to a particular site/server then it may help to do two or more concurrent uploads, as TCP gets slower the further away (higher round trip time) the two ends are. It's also possible that it's just a local limitation of 1Mbit/sec upload speed.

DeanCapture · 07-27-2008, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Talk to Roadrunner. If you have fiber in your neighborhood, you should be able to get speeds like this.

Shit - that would be nice!!!

DeanCapture · 07-27-2008, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by rowan

Is that 120 kbytes or kbit/sec? Where are you getting that measurement from?

That's the number I'm seeing on my FTP software as it's uploading stuff. Is that an accurate number? I'm uploading a file to my server that is about 3gig. My FTP software is telling me it'll take over 6 hours

baddog · 07-27-2008, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DeanCapture

That's the number I'm seeing on my FTP software as it's uploading stuff. Is that an accurate number? I'm upload a file to my server that is about 3gig. My FTP software is telling me it'll take over 6 hours

www.speedtest.net

What are your results?

rowan · 07-27-2008, 09:36 AM

Putting it another way - between two servers in the USA I get 2-3Mbytes/sec (20Mit/sec) transfer speed, between USA-NL I get 300kbytes/sec (2.5Mbit/sec)

That's just a single stream speed limitation; by doing two or more transfers at the same time I can virtually double (two transfers) or triple (three transfers) etc the effective transfer speed.

StuartD · 07-27-2008, 09:39 AM

It's likely your ISP limiting it heavily. They don't trust torrent / p2p users so they limit that stuff. But they have accounts that will open that up to full speed for honest business users.

rowan · 07-27-2008, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

www.speedtest.net

What are your results?

speedtest.net is a synthetic and partial test, the real world speeds from Dean's FTP client are a much better measure of his speed in this specific situation.

baddog · 07-27-2008, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by rowan

speedtest.net is a synthetic and partial test, the real world speeds from Dean's FTP client are a much better measure of his speed in this specific situation.

It will give us a starting point since we both have the same ISP and live within 40 miles of each other.

DeanCapture · 07-27-2008, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by StuartD

It's likely your ISP limiting it heavily. They don't trust torrent / p2p users so they limit that stuff. But they have accounts that will open that up to full speed for honest business users.

I just sent them an email (Time Warner Cable) to see what my options are. I wasn't sure if there was some tweaking I could do on my end, buy a piece of software or if this was controlled by the ISP. Thanks for all the help guys!!!

DeanCapture · 07-27-2008, 09:45 AM

Here's my results:

Big difference in the upload speeds from this reading and the one in my FTP software :/

baddog · 07-27-2008, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DeanCapture

I just sent them an email (Time Warner Cable) to see what my options are. I wasn't sure if there was some tweaking I could do on my end, buy a piece of software or if this was controlled by the ISP. Thanks for all the help guys!!!

A phone call is quicker and more effective. An email will be lucky to be seen.

DeanCapture · 07-27-2008, 09:48 AM

Is there a better FTP program for upload large files? I've recently started using FileZilla...does this play a role in how fast my uploads will be?

baddog · 07-27-2008, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DeanCapture

Here's my results:

Big difference in the upload speeds from this reading and the one in my FTP software :/

Call them tomorrow. They can most likely bump your package over the phone.

baddog · 07-27-2008, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DeanCapture

Is there a better FTP program for upload large files? I've recently started using FileZilla...does this play a role in how fast my uploads will be?

I have never known one FTP client to be faster than another.

rowan · 07-27-2008, 09:53 AM

The speedtest.net upload speed is in kilobits per sec, your FTP client is probably reporting kilobytes per sec. 846kbit/sec = ~105kbytes/sec

DeanCapture · 07-27-2008, 09:56 AM

I'm wondering why my upload speed from SpeedTest.net is much faster than what I'm experiencing with my FTP software...and which one is more accurate.

Based on 846 kb/s from the SpeedTest.net set, how long should it take to upload a 3gig file?

rowan · 07-27-2008, 09:56 AM

Also given your ping is so high I presume you're still in the middle of the FTP upload, that will affect your speedtest.net results

DeanCapture · 07-27-2008, 09:56 AM

I'm wondering why my upload speed from SpeedTest.net is much faster than what I'm experiencing with my FTP software...and which one is more accurate.

Based on 846 kb/s from the SpeedTest.net set, how long should it take to upload a 3gig file?

DeanCapture · 07-27-2008, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by rowan

The speedtest.net upload speed is in kilobits per sec, your FTP client is probably reporting kilobytes per sec. 846kbit/sec = ~105kbytes/sec

What it actually says is... 120.3 KB/s

rowan · 07-27-2008, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by DeanCapture

What it actually says is... 120.3 KB/s

The relationship between kilobits per sec and kilobytes per sec is roughly 8:1. Don't forget speedtest is a synthetic test, it's pretty close. Be happy your practical upload speed is GREATER than that reported by speedtest.

drocd · 07-27-2008, 10:08 AM

Dean, let me try to clear up some confusion. There are bytes and bits. One byte equals about 8 bits. If the K is capitalized then it is referring to bytes.
For example 120.3 KB/s is 120.3 kilobytes per second.

The speedtest.net results say 864 kb/s which is bits (you can tell by the lowercase k). So if you do the math 864/8= 108Kb/s.

mikesouth · 07-27-2008, 10:17 AM

Im pretty happy widdat

Bama · 07-27-2008, 10:18 AM

I'm using Comcast cable but I'm patiently awaiting until they get FIOS in my neighborhood.

Download isn't too bad now, but I want the 50 mbits/20mbits package they offer with FIOS.

I find more and more that upload speeds are as important as download when running paysites.

yahoo-xxx-girls.com · 07-27-2008, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by drocd

Dean, let me try to clear up some confusion. There are bytes and bits. One byte equals about 8 bits. If the K is capitalized then it is referring to bytes.
For example 120.3 KB/s is 120.3 kilobytes per second.

The speedtest.net results say 864 kb/s which is bits (you can tell by the lowercase k). So if you do the math 864/8= 108Kb/s.

It's still too slow... I'm on cable with a download of up to 10MB/second down, but sometimes it peaks to around 30MB/second... but again the download speed even on the fastest connection is limited to what the host server speed is, for example: I have up to a 10MB/second download speed connection, however, if I go to a website or use a Internet services the download speed will be only as fast as the Internet server I am downloading from... Sometimes when you are uploading such will effect your download bandwidth... for some reason which I don't understand...

peedy · 07-27-2008, 11:08 AM

If your on windows you can optimize your TCP settings and it will help. go to www.speedguide.net and download the TCP Optimizer.

woj · 07-27-2008, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Bama

I'm using Comcast cable but I'm patiently awaiting until they get FIOS in my neighborhood.

Download isn't too bad now, but I want the 50 mbits/20mbits package they offer with FIOS.

I find more and more that upload speeds are as important as download when running paysites.

nice connection there

NinjaSteve · 07-27-2008, 04:46 PM

I'd post mine, but I don't want to brag :D

07-27-2008, 09:22 AM	#1
DeanCapture Haters & Trolls SUCK! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 9,275	Any Way To Tweak Upload Speeds ? I have the Road Runner Extreme Cable package and I'm very happy with my download speed but my upload speed is shit....it's 120 kbps! Are there any devices that will help me get faster upload speeds or is this all controlled by the ISP? __________________ Twitter: @DeanCapture Instagram: @TheDeanCapture DeanCapture "at" Gmail.com

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DeanCapture Haters & Trolls SUCK! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 9,275	Here's my results: Big difference in the upload speeds from this reading and the one in my FTP software :/ __________________ Twitter: @DeanCapture Instagram: @TheDeanCapture DeanCapture "at" Gmail.com Last edited by DeanCapture; 07-27-2008 at 09:46 AM..

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DeanCapture Haters & Trolls SUCK! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 9,275	Is there a better FTP program for upload large files? I've recently started using FileZilla...does this play a role in how fast my uploads will be? __________________ Twitter: @DeanCapture Instagram: @TheDeanCapture DeanCapture "at" Gmail.com

07-27-2008, 09:56 AM	#19
DeanCapture Haters & Trolls SUCK! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 9,275	I'm wondering why my upload speed from SpeedTest.net is much faster than what I'm experiencing with my FTP software...and which one is more accurate. Based on 846 kb/s from the SpeedTest.net set, how long should it take to upload a 3gig file? __________________ Twitter: @DeanCapture Instagram: @TheDeanCapture DeanCapture "at" Gmail.com

07-27-2008, 09:26 AM	#2
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07-27-2008, 09:29 AM	#3
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	Talk to Roadrunner. If you have fiber in your neighborhood, you should be able to get speeds like this.

07-27-2008, 09:31 AM	#4
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	Is that 120 kbytes or kbit/sec? Where are you getting that measurement from? If it's upload speed to a particular site/server then it may help to do two or more concurrent uploads, as TCP gets slower the further away (higher round trip time) the two ends are. It's also possible that it's just a local limitation of 1Mbit/sec upload speed.

07-27-2008, 09:36 AM	#8
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	Putting it another way - between two servers in the USA I get 2-3Mbytes/sec (20Mit/sec) transfer speed, between USA-NL I get 300kbytes/sec (2.5Mbit/sec) That's just a single stream speed limitation; by doing two or more transfers at the same time I can virtually double (two transfers) or triple (three transfers) etc the effective transfer speed.

07-27-2008, 09:53 AM	#18
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	The speedtest.net upload speed is in kilobits per sec, your FTP client is probably reporting kilobytes per sec. 846kbit/sec = ~105kbytes/sec

07-27-2008, 10:08 AM	#24
drocd Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 128	Dean, let me try to clear up some confusion. There are bytes and bits. One byte equals about 8 bits. If the K is capitalized then it is referring to bytes. For example 120.3 KB/s is 120.3 kilobytes per second. The speedtest.net results say 864 kb/s which is bits (you can tell by the lowercase k). So if you do the math 864/8= 108Kb/s. __________________ 230-699 Last edited by drocd; 07-27-2008 at 10:10 AM..

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07-27-2008, 10:18 AM	#26
Bama Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Redmond, WA Posts: 2,727	I'm using Comcast cable but I'm patiently awaiting until they get FIOS in my neighborhood. Download isn't too bad now, but I want the 50 mbits/20mbits package they offer with FIOS. I find more and more that upload speeds are as important as download when running paysites.

07-27-2008, 11:08 AM	#28
peedy Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Indiana Posts: 866	If your on windows you can optimize your TCP settings and it will help. go to www.speedguide.net and download the TCP Optimizer.

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