Aren't there anymore REAL amateur girls in the biz?

[kisskatlyn]

DAMN.

When I had my amateur site back in 2002 most of the solo girl amateur sites were run by the girl's themselves, or their boyfriends/husbands. Now all these big webporn companies have all these "real" amateur solo girls but really these girls are just models and personalities for the sites which the big guys run.

Seriously, I have been searching this board "solo girl", "amateur site" etc etc and all I am finding are companies like Lightspeed who have nice sites for sure, and yes they are personality based but where are the owner-operators, the REAL amateur girls?

Is there no market for it anymore? Or are they all on AVSs and newtworks now? The $750 CCBill account and incorporating thing existed while I still had my site and lots of girls just went ahead and did it rather than moving to an AVS. But now I can't seem to find any.

I have a friend that wants to start her own amateur site, mostly for fun with her husband. I told her it was easy and lots of girls do it but now I feel like a liar because I can't find any examples to show her! Even KCat of kcatclub.com is on an AVS now and I see others on that same network that used to be standalone.


AHHH I feel like I have just got out of jail or something with the way everything has changed!

[SteveLightspeed]

Talk to Ashley from www.sendashleytocollege.com and Sandy from www.sandy-summers.com

[Evil E]

Check out www.mywifebucks.com

[miss_bellabellini]

I run my own site mostly, although I work with some good people and ask for help when I need to. It is hard and a huge learning curve, but I'm finding it enjoyable

Good luck with yours.

[venus]

I am still around, been here since 1997, seen LOTS of amateur sites come and go....I am not going anywhere.

[kisskatlyn]

Hey Steve thanks, that was quick

Do you know of any that are not teen?

edit: whoa, more replies in the time it took me to type that lol

Nice to see you girls, thank you!

[C_U_Next_Tuesday]

http://tastytrixie.com she runs her own site..send her an email

[SteveLightspeed]

Originally Posted by kisskatlyn

Hey Steve thanks, that was quick

Do you know of any that are not teen?

edit: whoa, more replies in the time it took me to type that lol

Nice to see you girls, thank you!

There is a certain solo girl board that you would find more information.

[Holly]

I remember talking to you years ago when you were trying to get your shit started on ProAdult (I think).

Didn't you freak out and close everything down because some guys from your school found your site?

[kisskatlyn]

Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

There is a certain solo girl board that you would find more information.

The only one I used to know about now forwards to a general board.

Originally Posted by Holly

I remember talking to you years ago when you were trying to get your shit started on ProAdult (I think).

Didn't you freak out and close everything down because some guys from your school found your site?

Almost, it was guys from work. I was 20 and worked in a call centre where the girl/guy ratio was 1:50, my photos spread like wildfire. I wasn't freaked, I just didn't want to deal with it. I never intended to make money, maybe made $200/mo because I didn't do any advertising, I just liked posting naked pictures of myself online lol So that $200/mo wasn't worth it.

Good to see you are still around Holly

Originally Posted by C_U_Next_Tuesday

http://tastytrixie.com she runs her own site..send her an email

I remember Trixie! Good to see she is still here!

[spooky181]

Ours is real and run by me and the missus...

[kisskatlyn]

Originally Posted by kisskatlyn

Almost, it was guys from work. I was 20 and worked in a call centre where the girl/guy ratio was 1:50, my photos spread like wildfire. I wasn't freaked, I just didn't want to deal with it. I never intended to make money, maybe made $200/mo because I didn't do any advertising, I just liked posting naked pictures of myself online lol So that $200/mo wasn't worth it.

Quoting myself here lol but also my biggest problem back then is that I was really sick with an undiagnosed stomach problem and I was VERY underweight. I had really awful body image issues and was ashamed of people I knew knowing what I looked like under my clothes. See that avatar of me? That is me now, I'm naturally quite thin, 105lbs...I was 80-85lbs back then! So yah actually in retrospect maybe I did freak, but not cause people saw me naked, it was because of this.

[SteveLightspeed]

Originally Posted by kisskatlyn

The only one I used to know about now forwards to a general board.

I will respect GFY's rules, but I'm sure a google search on "solo girl board" will help you locate it.

[kisskatlyn]

Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

I will respect GFY's rules, but I'm sure a google search on "solo girl board" will help you locate it.

lol thanks! How stupid of me not to get the hint the first time

Originally Posted by kisskatlyn

DAMN.

When I had my amateur site back in 2002 most of the solo girl amateur sites were run by the girl's themselves, or their boyfriends/husbands. Now all these big webporn companies have all these "real" amateur solo girls but really these girls are just models and personalities for the sites which the big guys run.

Seriously, I have been searching this board "solo girl", "amateur site" etc etc and all I am finding are companies like Lightspeed who have nice sites for sure, and yes they are personality based but where are the owner-operators, the REAL amateur girls?

Is there no market for it anymore? Or are they all on AVSs and newtworks now? The $750 CCBill account and incorporating thing existed while I still had my site and lots of girls just went ahead and did it rather than moving to an AVS. But now I can't seem to find any.

I have a friend that wants to start her own amateur site, mostly for fun with her husband. I told her it was easy and lots of girls do it but now I feel like a liar because I can't find any examples to show her! Even KCat of kcatclub.com is on an AVS now and I see others on that same network that used to be standalone.


AHHH I feel like I have just got out of jail or something with the way everything has changed!

A lot of us still run our own websites. Most of us are not amateurs though. A majority of the women I know that run and own their own sites were models for a few years before they started their websites. There are plenty of examples to show your friend.

[Warren]

Originally Posted by kisskatlyn

Quoting myself here lol but also my biggest problem back then is that I was really sick with an undiagnosed stomach problem and I was VERY underweight. I had really awful body image issues and was ashamed of people I knew knowing what I looked like under my clothes. See that avatar of me? That is me now, I'm naturally quite thin, 105lbs...I was 80-85lbs back then! So yah actually in retrospect maybe I did freak, but not cause people saw me naked, it was because of this.

You dont need to explain yourself here sweetheart.

[Holly]

Originally Posted by kisskatlyn

Quoting myself here lol but also my biggest problem back then is that I was really sick with an undiagnosed stomach problem and I was VERY underweight. I had really awful body image issues and was ashamed of people I knew knowing what I looked like under my clothes. See that avatar of me? That is me now, I'm naturally quite thin, 105lbs...I was 80-85lbs back then! So yah actually in retrospect maybe I did freak, but not cause people saw me naked, it was because of this.

Didn't you have some clothing thing? Or maybe it wasn't you. I remember somebody showing me clothes they were selling or making.

[kisskatlyn]

Originally Posted by Holly

Didn't you have some clothing thing? Or maybe it wasn't you. I remember somebody showing me clothes they were selling or making.

Might have been me, I have been designing and making clothes since I was a kid. I work as a pattern maker now. Though I don't remember showing them to anyone but that was a long time ago!

Now what I REALLY want to know is how I get a photo of a hot dick with my name on it!

[kisskatlyn]

Originally Posted by Warren

You dont need to explain yourself here sweetheart.

oh I know, just friendly conversation

[Paul Markham]

I think you answered your own question.

With the rate of "Amateur Solo Girls" who decide to quit, for what ever reasons, some people are reluctant to send them traffic. So start up sites always suffer with a lack of traffic, add this reason to the mix and the failure or quitting rate increases.

Result is fewer true amateur solo girl sites in the business. That statement is actually an oxymoron. From a moron. LOL

The next thread I read tells you why. http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=842376

[kisskatlyn]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

I think you answered your own question.

With the rate of "Amateur Solo Girls" who decide to quit, for what ever reasons, some people are reluctant to send them traffic. So start up sites always suffer with a lack of traffic, add this reason to the mix and the failure or quitting rate increases.

Result is fewer true amateur solo girl sites in the business. That statement is actually an oxymoron. From a moron. LOL

The next thread I read tells you why. http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=842376

Yah all makes sense...not sure I would ever work with a girl on her site. They all want something for nothing. Not willing to put in more than the 3 hours it takes to make the photos and then get bored with that too. Then there are the others who want to do their own site and have no real idea how much work it will be and tire of it quickly.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by kisskatlyn

Yah all makes sense...not sure I would ever work with a girl on her site. They all want something for nothing. Not willing to put in more than the 3 hours it takes to make the photos and then get bored with that too. Then there are the others who want to do their own site and have no real idea how much work it will be and tire of it quickly.

I must be dreaming. Someone on GFY said I made sense.

[Iron Fist]

Originally Posted by miss_bellabellini

I run my own site mostly, although I work with some good people and ask for help when I need to. It is hard and a huge learning curve, but I'm finding it enjoyable

Good luck with yours.

Love your site, right up until that stupid song started playing.... it's fucking 4 am here right now... ARGH. I HATE sites that feel a need to have a music background going without any option to turn it off...

[fitzmulti]

Originally Posted by sharphead

Love your site, right up until that stupid song started playing.... it's fucking 4 am here right now... ARGH. I HATE sites that feel a need to have a music background going without any option to turn it off...

Agreed...especially when dudes looking @ the sites are in a lot of cases "trying to get away with something"! Whether that be at home, or at work...

[JimmiDean]

We have been running our sites, husband and wife since 2002.
I would not say its been easy but it is well worth it and a lot of fun.
Feel free to hit us up if you need any help at all
Jim and Jenn

[bloggingseo]

Oh yeah, there's more than you thought! Your friend can do it if she applies herself

[Darrell]

I've been running Justine's Bedroom with my wife Justine for 10 years now. We are a real amateur site

[DutchTeenCash]

www.sweetnaturalgirl.com - Jillian shes 200% amateur works goes to school does the blog pics and all, no agency no inet just at a local market and she rocks

[Boobgirl]

www.dawnsplace.com - we have been around for a long time too!

[Spike D]

Celeste Fox is still online and has been for years, Claudia-Marie does her site with Robbie. In fact, all the girls in our program are still very involved in the running of their sites. If they have more specifics, my email is below and I would be happy to try and help out.

[wyldblyss]

There are plenty of amateurs, and some even partner with the bigger companies for more traffic and also to share resources. It is not always a "bad thing"

[fris]

naughtyallie (naughtybank)

[MRock]

We've been making a living since '99 with our amateur sites. Jill started with her bluefairy cam house, then launched her namesake site in 2001. We have seen many amaters move on too. For us it's more the lifestyle than the money. Do what you love, the money will follow sort of thing. Tell your friend she can do it, but tell her to expect a lot of work and devotion.

[Penny24Seven]

I have one that was just finished last week. PenelopeSky www.penelopesky.com She has been learning for almost a year how to run the site on her own and is doing a great job to say the least. I am as close to a boyfriend as you can be without being one if that helps and I am the only one that helps her with the site.

[Elli]

There are a few true amateur networks left like Dreamnet.com and Southern Charms, etc. My own site is still running quite happily. It is difficult to find true amateurs though. I think it was more a function of the budding internet, and now people are seeing it more as a business than a fun exhibition. There's flickr and such if you just want to show off your bits these days.

[commonsense]

Originally Posted by kisskatlyn

The only one I used to know about now forwards to a general board.



Almost, it was guys from work. I was 20 and worked in a call centre where the girl/guy ratio was 1:50, my photos spread like wildfire. I wasn't freaked, I just didn't want to deal with it. I never intended to make money, maybe made $200/mo because I didn't do any advertising, I just liked posting naked pictures of myself online lol So that $200/mo wasn't worth it.

Good to see you are still around Holly



I remember Trixie! Good to see she is still here!

This is EXACTLY one of the things that turns me off for promoting model-run sites. Then can and generally do shut down overnight, without care for affiliates or the time it takes to build things for promotion.


Finding a new boyfriend, Jesus or just something shiny in the street and they shut down AND think all traces of their past can be magically erased from the net.

[kisskatlyn]

Originally Posted by JimmiDean

We have been running our sites, husband and wife since 2002.
I would not say its been easy but it is well worth it and a lot of fun.
Feel free to hit us up if you need any help at all
Jim and Jenn

Hey thanks

Originally Posted by Spike D

Celeste Fox is still online and has been for years, Claudia-Marie does her site with Robbie. In fact, all the girls in our program are still very involved in the running of their sites. If they have more specifics, my email is below and I would be happy to try and help out.

Thank you as well

Originally Posted by MRock

We've been making a living since '99 with our amateur sites. Jill started with her bluefairy cam house, then launched her namesake site in 2001. We have seen many amaters move on too. For us it's more the lifestyle than the money. Do what you love, the money will follow sort of thing. Tell your friend she can do it, but tell her to expect a lot of work and devotion.

It's very true, it does take a TON of work and if you don't love it, it can get tiring quickly.

Originally Posted by commonsense

This is EXACTLY one of the things that turns me off for promoting model-run sites. Then can and generally do shut down overnight, without care for affiliates or the time it takes to build things for promotion.

Finding a new boyfriend, Jesus or just something shiny in the street and they shut down AND think all traces of their past can be magically erased from the net.

Yep, I don't think girls should offer affiliate programs until they have proven they can last at least a year.

[MandyBlake]

i run two amateur sites
mandysplayhouse and herfirstfatgirl

[ArielRebel]

come check out my website www.arielrebel.com

I'm running the hole site myself but panchodog is doing the hosting.... ALL THE SITE IS :

Shot by me , Eddit by me, Design by me (the launch of my design will be soon) and manage, updates and promo all myself!!!!!

I'm always adding new features on it for the members but also for the affiliate!!! Come check out my blog to see where I am in my regular life!!!!

There is still girls who's managing their own shit ;) don't get too sad ;)

Any question... ask me!!!

Originally Posted by commonsense

This is EXACTLY one of the things that turns me off for promoting model-run sites. Then can and generally do shut down overnight, without care for affiliates or the time it takes to build things for promotion.


Finding a new boyfriend, Jesus or just something shiny in the street and they shut down AND think all traces of their past can be magically erased from the net.

Those are just the dumb ones. Not all solo girls are going to shut down their sites for a new man. Men are easy to find, they just need to find ones that are cool with their websites.

[the content guy]

Originally Posted by kisskatlyn

Might have been me, I have been designing and making clothes since I was a kid. I work as a pattern maker now. Though I don't remember showing them to anyone but that was a long time ago!

Now what I REALLY want to know is how I get a photo of a hot dick with my name on it!

did someone call my name? aww shit, just noticed your name, I only have room for "kiss" and that would make me a band groupie.

[the content guy]

Originally Posted by Brian837

I have one that was just finished last week. PenelopeSky www.penelopesky.com She has been learning for almost a year how to run the site on her own and is doing a great job to say the least. I am as close to a boyfriend as you can be without being one if that helps and I am the only one that helps her with the site.

Would you please clone her?

[the content guy]

The reason I am so into this thread is because I am contemplating launching a new "hit or miss" sologirl program. The problem is finding girls like Brian837 mentioned and not having to deal with the brain damage. Not sure if I really need that.

[kisskatlyn]

Originally Posted by ArielRebel

Shot by me , Eddit by me, Design by me (the launch of my design will be soon) and manage, updates and promo all myself!!!!!
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Your site design looks REALLY nice and your photos are great! Do you use a remote? You look so young, how did you manage to learn all this stuff?

Originally Posted by JaneB

Those are just the dumb ones. Not all solo girls are going to shut down their sites for a new man. Men are easy to find, they just need to find ones that are cool with their websites.

True dat! When I told my guy what I am thinking of doing, I knew he would be cool with it because he is open minded but I expected a little bit of "uh...really?" Instead he blew me away. Rather than simply being cool with it he told me he admired my strength and thought that I was an amazing person. Now THAT is the type of response you want.

Originally Posted by the content guy

did someone call my name? aww shit, just noticed your name, I only have room for "kiss" and that would make me a band groupie.

I don't use KK anyway, just on GFY here... Katlyn will do just fine ;)

[ArielRebel]

[QUOTE=kisskatlyn;14481389]Your site design looks REALLY nice and your photos are great! Do you use a remote? You look so young, how did you manage to learn all this stuff?

Sorry I'm not usre if I understand the meaning on this : Do you use a remote?

The Panchodog crew is amazing and they have help me to learn SO MUCH...For the rest... it's millions of hours in front of photoshop trying! lol!

For the design... the current one is not mine...My new design + another one will be launch pretty soon but you can see some example on another webmaster forum...

[kisskatlyn]

Originally Posted by ArielRebel

Sorry I'm not usre if I understand the meaning on this : Do you use a remote?

You said that you shoot all the photos yourself. How do you do that?

[Penny24Seven]

Originally Posted by the content guy

The reason I am so into this thread is because I am contemplating launching a new "hit or miss" sologirl program. The problem is finding girls like Brian837 mentioned and not having to deal with the brain damage. Not sure if I really need that.

make sure the girl can trust you and do what you can to show it. She should be willing to do the same for you. She should understand this is a big investment for everyone involved. Be fair when it comes to money and working. If the site does well you should both have lots of money in your pockets.
and if she does quit, well you did all you could

[kisskatlyn]

by the way, what do you mean "hit or miss" program?

[Biggy]

melissa from melissa midwest still does a hell of a lot of work on her site.

everything content and member-related is all her, and even though shes accomplished a lot, i would still consider her an amateur since her site is independently-owned and never had the backing of a big program.

[Lonely immortal]

Strange how many people don't realise that once you get established in the "biz" you're no longer an amateur even if you are running your own site from home, you're still a pro because let's face it amateurs don't survive in any business