How do you feel about webmasters submitting sponsor videos with their own watermarks? - GoFuckYourself.com

Black_Widow · 07-13-2008, 11:42 PM

So I have LEGAL tube site that takes webmaster submissions. Lately I see a pattern of webmasters submitting promo videos they got from affiliate programs with their own URL like /pussy.davidsporn.com When you look at that urs it becomes clear that its nothing but lame tgp or banner portal and they are just trying to get some traffic. How do you feel about this?

the Shemp · 07-13-2008, 11:48 PM

blacklist them

mynameisjim · 07-13-2008, 11:49 PM

Are you allowing those videos? If so it's not a legal tubesite anymore.

Evil E · 07-13-2008, 11:50 PM

yep blacklist them, this is not ebaum's world.

d-null · 07-13-2008, 11:54 PM

like someone else said, if it's a so-called 'legal' tube site, the tube site needs to respect that the content is bound by the copyright, and the copyright is held by the sponsor, not the affiliate

the watermark part of the equation is not the issue exactly, who owns the copyright and what they have allowed as use is the issue

After Shock Media · 07-14-2008, 01:27 AM

Um that would typically mean they would need to strip my watermark which is a no fucking way type deal. Then they would encode it again at a smaller size and well hell no fuck that. I am also no legal scholar but I think if they do that much altering to my work they would then put themselves on the legal 2257 hook and or if it needs to be taken as a whole.

papill0n · 07-14-2008, 01:28 AM

Thats not on.

WiredGuy · 07-14-2008, 01:33 AM

Are they keeping the sponsors watermark too or overriding it?
WG

BV · 07-14-2008, 01:34 AM

time to kill an account and call the lawyer

BV · 07-14-2008, 01:36 AM

btw

this is also a Usenet practise

SBJ · 07-14-2008, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by mynameisjim

Are you allowing those videos? If so it's not a legal tubesite anymore.

yup I don't want my videos watermarked with someones freesite and I will warn then kill any affiliate that I see doing it

MoreMagic · 07-14-2008, 02:42 AM

Logic they do that, keeping your name on it is just a traffic leak and you know it that's why you get pissed. But to put there own name on it is for me also a nono

Joe BrainCash · 07-14-2008, 06:05 AM

Every time I go around the latest tube sites looking for our stolen stuff, I come across these bastards not just stealing our material but adding their watermarks over... GRRRRR

Holy shit, what's next? Tubes will charge the surfer to give them access to my stuff?????

dready · 07-14-2008, 06:41 AM

If it was content originally from my store, it would be in breach of the licence agreement.

Matt 26z · 07-14-2008, 06:58 AM

What if the watermark is an affiliate URL that promotes only that sponsor?

dready · 07-14-2008, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z

What if the watermark is an affiliate URL that promotes only that sponsor?

Sponsor URL yes, affiliate URL, who's going to type that? It would also be in breech if originally from my store.

stickyfingerz · 07-14-2008, 10:02 AM

There is a way to do this to keep the sponsor happy and the affiliate happy. If you use a dedicated domain to that sponsors site for instance, and either have just content and links going only to that site, or a fast redirect going directly to the sponsors site. Personally I use mostly content that I've bought to do that with though. But I have done it with quite a few sponsors and got their permission first.

Grapesoda · 07-14-2008, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by jetjet

like someone else said, if it's a so-called 'legal' tube site, the tube site needs to respect that the content is bound by the copyright, and the copyright is held by the sponsor, not the affiliate

the watermark part of the equation is not the issue exactly, who owns the copyright and what they have allowed as use is the issue

seems to me that most programs don't register their content with the library of congress which is what it takes to own the copyright. -bmb

07-13-2008, 11:42 PM	#1
Black_Widow So Fucking Banned Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 381	How do you feel about webmasters submitting sponsor videos with their own watermarks? So I have LEGAL tube site that takes webmaster submissions. Lately I see a pattern of webmasters submitting promo videos they got from affiliate programs with their own URL like /pussy.davidsporn.com When you look at that urs it becomes clear that its nothing but lame tgp or banner portal and they are just trying to get some traffic. How do you feel about this?

07-13-2008, 11:48 PM	#2
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07-13-2008, 11:54 PM	#5
d-null . . . Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NY Posts: 13,724	like someone else said, if it's a so-called 'legal' tube site, the tube site needs to respect that the content is bound by the copyright, and the copyright is held by the sponsor, not the affiliate the watermark part of the equation is not the issue exactly, who owns the copyright and what they have allowed as use is the issue __________________ __________________ Looking for a custom TUBE SCRIPT that supports massive traffic, load balancing, billing support, and h264 encoding? Hit up Konrad! Looking for designs for your websites or custom tubesite design? Hit up Zuzana Designs Check out the #1 WordPress SEO Plugin: CyberSEO Suite

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After Shock Media It's coming look busy Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn". Posts: 35,299	Um that would typically mean they would need to strip my watermark which is a no fucking way type deal. Then they would encode it again at a smaller size and well hell no fuck that. I am also no legal scholar but I think if they do that much altering to my work they would then put themselves on the legal 2257 hook and or if it needs to be taken as a whole. __________________ [email protected] ICQ:135982156 AIM: Aftershockmed1a MSN: [email protected]

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mynameisjim Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 2,985	Are you allowing those videos? If so it's not a legal tubesite anymore.

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papill0n Unregistered Abuser Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 15,547	Thats not on.

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WiredGuy Pounding Googlebot Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 34,486	Are they keeping the sponsors watermark too or overriding it? WG __________________ I play with Google.

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BV wtf Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Bikini State, FL USA Posts: 10,914	time to kill an account and call the lawyer

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MoreMagic Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,848	Logic they do that, keeping your name on it is just a traffic leak and you know it that's why you get pissed. But to put there own name on it is for me also a nono Last edited by MoreMagic; 07-14-2008 at 02:44 AM..

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Joe BrainCash Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Boy, life is difficult... Posts: 2,092	Every time I go around the latest tube sites looking for our stolen stuff, I come across these bastards not just stealing our material but adding their watermarks over... GRRRRR Holy shit, what's next? Tubes will charge the surfer to give them access to my stuff????? __________________ [email protected] ICQ: 394.549.466

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dready Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 5,247	If it was content originally from my store, it would be in breach of the licence agreement. __________________ ICQ: 91139591

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Matt 26z So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: ¤ª"˜¨๑۩۞۩๑¨˜"ª¤ Posts: 18,481	What if the watermark is an affiliate URL that promotes only that sponsor?

07-14-2008, 10:02 AM	#17
stickyfingerz Doin fine Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 24,984	There is a way to do this to keep the sponsor happy and the affiliate happy. If you use a dedicated domain to that sponsors site for instance, and either have just content and links going only to that site, or a fast redirect going directly to the sponsors site. Personally I use mostly content that I've bought to do that with though. But I have done it with quite a few sponsors and got their permission first.