aol is NOT blocking consoles.. if you would have continued reading what aol is doing they are no longer SELLING popup advertisements... you know.. the ones that show up as soon as you log in to aol?

Yeah thats already been pointed out hooper.
But you did hear about earthlink...right :)

As an affiliate.. I don't like it. I make over 10k a month from consoles, the longer it takes for them to be eliminated, the better.

Plus, your logic about most surfers not pulling out their credit card for porn really doesn't hold up. They will also not pull out their credit cards for this either. The cheap guys will have found a free version of a pop up killer.

According to your own program, pop ups are worth $8-$13 for each sale. This seems really short sighted to me.

Looks like I'm late to the party...

AOL and Earthlink? No real comparison in the number of users, especially porn users. I can search our client emails and find the proportion of one to the other.

I am not in favor of this, one of the ways that per join programs pay decent payouts to webmasters is and has been that they use their exit traffic to make it back up.

No, I don't think that Ken has the market reach to make a huge dent in the situation. However I do think that this is something that probably wasn't thought through clearly prior to launch.

And using it as the end console on a chain, that seems to relate to the guys that were tossing up the scripted page with the users hard drive on it in order to sell them the eraser products.

Wenchy SHIT! Long time no see... I see you got something interesting that you're promoting there. Wanna trade some traffic? We have a few console spots open. At least if Ken doesn't ruin it for everyone....

Uhm, Ken? This is really dumb you know. If you don't take that shit down, you're going to be taking ALOT more cold showers.... case closed dork :)

Anyway, Wenchy can you icq me tomorrow or later tonight?

In your ass frogboy :321GFY

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Thanks for the good words Wenchy! Good to see you around :)

earthlink? they have a popupblocker?

damn i'm behind the times ;-)

Its ok..your are a busy kidd :)

just dont let it happen again :thumbsup

what about this idea no coments?

Is there anyway you can make it so it only kills mainstream pops?

Now thats something I think we would all support. Something to think about.

they try to screw us we should build something to screw them

like a code word if it doesn't have the word sex in the exit it kills it or something to that effect. LOL

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Damn RRRed....I was just trying to earn enough money to pay for your never ending appetite for new shoes :)

I'm willing to take a little heat on the boards, but I'm NOT willing to take ANY more cold showers!!!!!

I guess the decesion has been made. KillThatConsole just got KILLED :)

Anything is possible!!! :)

good decision ken.

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Great Idea Roger! I'll talk to the programmers and see if that's possible.....

I run some TGPS, and hence don't use popups. I also believe that surfers who are treated to a popup hell when clicking a sponsor banner, are less likely to click a second time. This reduces CTR, and cuts into my bottom line.
That was my webmaster point of view, as a surfer they piss me off when more then 1 opens.

Yahoo uses 1 popup, ok I actually think 0-1 popup is ok. Do you see yahoo chain 12 together then unload the surfer to offshoreclicks or some bullshit?
Popups are a neat idea but they are being abused. If the choice is every site with loads of popups or none, I would select none. We ruined them, so I look forward to the day they are no more.

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Thanks Hooper......can't win them all :)

What bottom line gallery boy?

Thanks for the kind words Wenchy!

I haven't seen you around for quite some time! Where have you been hiding??

Well, there you have it folks....the masses have spoken and Ken has listened....

Now, any bets on what Ken will come out with next?? :eyecrazy

Damn man!!!

That's big balls.....all so RRRED can have more shoe's :)
Gotta say tho....
When cashquest affiliates talk...Ken listens.... :)

he should relaunch it and only kill mainstream pops

this way the adult webmasters would only use his program

There is one model that never changes. Put out a decent site with decent content that's not simply a conglomeration of plugins with a nifty new front end, price it reasonably, and update it regularly.

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Actually, the masses got my attention, but RRRed laid the law down and made it a no brainer :)

Truthfully, we also got quite a few e-mails today from our affiliates, which made the decision easy. I would say that more hated the idea than liked it by about 70/30, so we have to go with the numbers and do what our affiliates want.....

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I agree with that. One thing that's always been true with CashQuest sites, we really try to give the surfer a lot of value inside of our sites with lots of updates, exclusive pics, etc

LOL poor Gigi... Nice job taking the swings, woman. You're a class act. I'm a big baby when that happens to me.

Slits, all the better to kick you with my dear :)

Anyways I've thrown my own traffic at it doesn't convert for shit. I'm sure there are tons of ways to capitalize on newer surfers retardedness....

Ken, what time is it? *duck

Even though I pulled their ads months and months ago, I've got 2 JimmySurf recurring members that won't cancel and I've made a whopping $50 out of them so far!

Did anyone else actually make any money from JimmyBucks?

Woooohooooo!

I'm hoping for something new with wagering.com -- it's football season, hockey season, baseball is still going and basketball starts next week...

There is alot of adult traffic that should be crossover traffic for that type of thing, and shouldn't ruffle any feathers so long as it's legal.

I love when you talk about traffic! :)

How is that any better? Just because it doesn't affect YOUR bottom line? Christ...

Hey gigi, I haven't read all this thread, and don't have time too - but I was wondering how much money Cash Quest has made off exit consoles? Hundreads of thousands? Millions? Why in the world would you offer such a program? And you can't say you're loosing profits to the other exit killer programs, they are competition for you, in that they are taking away potential sign ups, not taking away potential revenue for having an exit killer.

Blah.

Cheers,
Matt

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Kimmy,

You had to remind me about good old wagering.com! We lost a fortune on that site when we had it up. Having a gaming resource site is a tough biz...

I would love to get into gambling, but I like to sleep at night :)

I'm open to all ideas though. Right now, we're just sending it to a search page :(

Well Ken my opinion may be worth shit but so be it.....3/4 of the people that post on this board are anons ,idiot, and if you cant take the heat from them then don?t have your marketing people announce dopey Adult product offerings that you haven?t thought through;)

In terms of traffic Ill bet your inbound #s will be the judge of that and I'll bet there is a distinct difference tomorrow;)

What are you talking about I have many mainstream sites
adult is not all we do.
we have a free ISP ,search engine etc. but those do not survive on exits.

I doubt it.

He already said he was pulling the program

Its amazing how grown people can act like children.

The real men stand up and put there names behind post.
Real men stand up for there friends and throw posoitive ideas around. Like PornKing...right on dude :)

Again, it doesn't affect YOUR bottom line. But it DOES affect those of others.

Fuck, I don't even use pop-ups (after 5 years of being in the Internet industry) and I don't promote LightSpeed (had issues with a new policy), but I still bitched like a mother fucker about both of them. Why? Principal.

Nysus,
Ken has pulled the plug on KillThatConsole....it will be removed from our line up.

Many others had feelings much like yourself and Ken felt it best we go with what our affiliates want...after all....they are who make us. :)

insidethegame,
Please see above....the 'game' is over....we care about our affliates and their opinions and have acted accordingly.

No need to get all nasty on us now :drinkup

rred,
<< LOL poor Gigi... Nice job taking the swings, woman. You're a class act. I'm a big baby when that happens to me. >>

Well, just let me collect my hair and bodily fluids off the ground and I should be okay. :1orglaugh

Jesus Christ just promote history kill. History kill stops popups and is rock solid.

Now heres an energetic marketing person...turning a complete failure and bollix of an announcement into a positive spin...I love this biz;)

Yeah homey I love when you talk about traffic too... AND fail to send any to me..... Homo!

:)

Ken, good call. I did not want to have to make a stop out in so cal this weekend on my trip to vegas!