collegefuckfest.com one reason we pay visa FEES

[hitman699]

I just joined this shit ass site's (www.collegefuckfest.com) trial for the hell of it. If you back button they give you a popup saying joing for a 3 day trial period for 5 bucks. I said what the hell Im bored so I joined. You get in there and theres maybe 30 pics and a couple video's. heres the kicker...the entire rest of the site is off limits until you "upgrade" to a full member. I wonder what this guys chargeback level must be especially since there is NO warning that your getting basically an avs style splash page in your trial instead of the complete real site. Fucking scammers like this are the reason we are paying fees to visa and mastercard .. affiliates should boycott this shitty site as they will prob be down soon and you wont collect anyway. just an FYI

[Sly_RJ]

Oh the stupidity...

[Morgan]

[Socks]

Wow, an affiliate webmaster who cares about the sites they promote.. what a concept! ;)

If you want to find GOOD sites to promote, use my site

this post has nothing to do with CollegeFuckFest, never seen it, so I have no idea.

[Snake Doctor]

What's the matter, you pissed off because you couldn't download the whole members area for 5 bucks with your broadband connection?

[Theo]

next time you will be bored start joining all the free ezines under my refferal

[pr0]

Seems like an interesting way to upgrade people to the full membership though. But yea i can see stuff like that upsetting certain members & causing chargebacks.

Wadda ya gonna do tho

[AaronM]

Originally posted by hitman699
I just joined this shit ass site's (www.collegefuckfest.com) trial for the hell of it. If you back button they give you a popup saying joing for a 3 day trial period for 5 bucks. I said what the hell Im bored so I joined. You get in there and theres maybe 30 pics and a couple video's. heres the kicker...the entire rest of the site is off limits until you "upgrade" to a full member. I wonder what this guys chargeback level must be especially since there is NO warning that your getting basically an avs style splash page in your trial instead of the complete real site. Fucking scammers like this are the reason we are paying fees to visa and mastercard .. affiliates should boycott this shitty site as they will prob be down soon and you wont collect anyway. just an FYI

Hey Newbie...How about if you ask them about it. The owners of that site happen to post here from time to time. They have been running very sucessful sites for awhile now.

Just because you are pissed that you could not get a nut from a five buck investment is no reason to trash their program. Buy a magazine next time ya cheap bastard.

[Mr.Fiction]

Does the affiliate get paid on the AVS membership you're talking about? Does the affiliate get paid if they upgrade from that to a full membership? I didn't totally understand your post.

[dickblast]

if u seriously think the content u get is not worth 5 bucks (i.e. 5 of their tgp galleries with 30 sec clips and 100 pictures) then by all means boycott them u have my support

but if they do provide u with decent length clips 1+ min, and basically what u'd get joining a platinum AVS site or whutever, then maybe it makes sense

why give out shitloads of downloadable content 4 a trial fee, after all ... bw hogs would leech it

[Snake Doctor]

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
Does the affiliate get paid on the AVS membership you're talking about? Does the affiliate get paid if they upgrade from that to a full membership? I didn't totally understand your post.

Well its a revshare program, so the affiliate gets paid a % of total billings. You think they'd be all for this type of thing if it means more $$.

I think he's just pissed that he didn't get to bust his nut or fill his HD with videos for $5

[hitman699]

My point is you dont advertise a 3 day trial for a site then give them a splash page with the rest of the site off limits. .. Its called FALSE ADVERTISING and its things like that cause people to chargeback causing visa and mastercard to regulate us. You people bitch when visa gets involved but don't want to use basic business ethics to prevent it in the first place..

[Snake Doctor]

Originally posted by hitman699
My point is you dont advertise a 3 day trial for a site then give them a splash page with the rest of the site off limits. .. Its called FALSE ADVERTISING and its things like that cause people to chargeback causing visa and mastercard to regulate us. You people bitch when visa gets involved but don't want to use basic business ethics to prevent it in the first place..

I signed up for a trial membership to get my credit report one time.
They showed me 1 of the 3 credit bureau reports, and hid my credit score. If I wanted to see all 3 reports plus my credit score, I had to "UPGRADE" my trial membership.

Stuff like this is done all the time, I don't see why you're so pissed off

[BradShaw]

On one hand, that is creative marketing to upsell the members area. But on the other hand, I do not think it will work long term and cancels and CB's will soar.

Why try to reinvent the wheel?

I joined the CFF site a while back, the content on the inside was decent, not great. I do not see it doing any record retention, more like the average 1.5 months.

[JJMedia]

It sounds like a smart move to get them in for a cheap price and then get them to upgrade if they want the real stuff.

I know babylon-x has been doing it for years .....

But I also think you are correct when you say it's a bit of a ripoff, if they give you as little content as you said.... Hmm tough one, might be worth a try though.

[<IMX>]

Okay, I can see why you are upset. They need to change their wording from

"3 DAY TRIAL TO THE WORLDS FIRST ORIGINAL COLLEGE WEBSITE FOR ONLY $5"
to "3 Day Trial Membership ... $5"

That would imply a "trial membership" is different from a regular membership, instead of acting as though the difference is the length of membership.

My two cents...

[Rory]

Originally posted by Lenny2


I signed up for a trial membership to get my credit report one time.
They showed me 1 of the 3 credit bureau reports, and hid my credit score. If I wanted to see all 3 reports plus my credit score, I had to "UPGRADE" my trial membership.

Stuff like this is done all the time, I don't see why you're so pissed off

I think he was just saying that maybe things like that are why Visa gives adult web business such shit. I have no idea what the collegefuckfest site has inside, iam just saying what I got from the post. He seemed to be more concerened with the fact that he felt mislead as a consumer based not on the content he recieved , but the content he thought he was paying his money for. I tend to agree with him here in the fact that right wrong or indifferent Visa has imposed a ton of fees based upon the chargeback ratio of the industry as a whole. Being an industry that is already under regulations based on chargeback ratios , wouldnt we as an industry benefit from being overly straight forward with what exactly customers get, not fine printing comsumers, etc.?

Rory

[macroguru]

CFF sells like wildfire for me, and a lot of those 5$ trials convert to full fledged recurring.

Don't know why you are bitching. It benefits you, as an affiliate for them to force the upsell.

Macro

[gallerypost]

Originally posted by hitman699
I just joined this shit ass site's (www.collegefuckfest.com) trial for the hell of it. If you back button they give you a popup saying joing for a 3 day trial period for 5 bucks. I said what the hell Im bored so I joined. You get in there and theres maybe 30 pics and a couple video's. heres the kicker...the entire rest of the site is off limits until you "upgrade" to a full member. I wonder what this guys chargeback level must be especially since there is NO warning that your getting basically an avs style splash page in your trial instead of the complete real site. Fucking scammers like this are the reason we are paying fees to visa and mastercard .. affiliates should boycott this shitty site as they will prob be down soon and you wont collect anyway. just an FYI

Let me guess, you planed to cancel your membership after that 3 or 5 days of trial, am i right ?
If so, i'm totaly agree with collegefuckfest, they give the trial so you see what you have, not just download all the content and the cancel it, for 5$ it's not just that they aren't earning any money, they are even losing money.

What i'm saying is that trial are to see if you like the site and if so upgrade it to a full membership, not for someone who wanna rip the site without paying atlist for 1 month the membership fee.

[ATL_Ryan]

CFF is killing it for me. The concept is original and it converts like crazy. Maybe not for everyone but certainly for me. They will upgrade to the full.

[dickblast]

maybe i am being naive but if the content is worth 5 bucks, then there shouldnt be a prob but apparently he thinks its not worth 5 bucks...which is what causes the cbs/refunds

but ya misleading shit on ur join just leads 2 trouble even on a cut and dried upgrade

[Kingfish]

I joined a month or so back and I got free access to the entire site with the trial. I thought they had a lot of nice feeds and access to other pay sites for their members. However, their own content was kind of thin I think they had 8 episodes or so. I remember in one of the episodes the party background noise keep looping and the phrase ?Notice the hand work? kept repeating which kind of blew the fantasy.

[gallerypost]

Originally posted by hitman699
My point is you dont advertise a 3 day trial for a site then give them a splash page with the rest of the site off limits. .. Its called FALSE ADVERTISING and its things like that cause people to chargeback causing visa and mastercard to regulate us. You people bitch when visa gets involved but don't want to use basic business ethics to prevent it in the first place..

This are just the bandwidth suckers, i'm sure that anyone can pay around 1$ a day for porn (30$ a month)... if someone is charging back it just bcz he ment to rip the site owner and download all the movies for 5$.

[hitman699]

Originally posted by gallerypost


Let me guess, you planed to cancel your membership after that 3 or 5 days of trial, am i right ?
If so, i'm totaly agree with collegefuckfest, they give the trial so you see what you have, not just download all the content and the cancel it, for 5$ it's not just that they aren't earning any money, they are even losing money.

What i'm saying is that trial are to see if you like the site and if so upgrade it to a full membership, not for someone who wanna rip the site without paying atlist for 1 month the membership fee.

Wrong, If they had quality site that was well updated they would maintain customers.. there is no use whatsoever for these below board tactics. They should say join today for 5 bucks for trial access to our preview page (not the whole site). That would have been a bit more honest. Just my opinion.

[FATPad]

Originally posted by gallerypost


Let me guess, you planed to cancel your membership after that 3 or 5 days of trial, am i right ?
If so, i'm totaly agree with collegefuckfest, they give the trial so you see what you have, not just download all the content and the cancel it, for 5$ it's not just that they aren't earning any money, they are even losing money.

What i'm saying is that trial are to see if you like the site and if so upgrade it to a full membership, not for someone who wanna rip the site without paying atlist for 1 month the membership fee.

Don't offer trials. Nothing says you have to.

[vik]

I guess it depends on how they worded their "trial-period" promo. I do that for my protected AVS area. It says "samples".

If you go to my paysite Photonudity.com I have a 5 day trial for $7.95 that includes everything I have to show, no upcharges except for a couple of the free video feeds (which don't produce shit anyway). I guess it all depends on how you want to market and how you want your site to be perceived.

But I don't take Visa anymore - it's not everywhere you want it be afterall, is it?



vik

[gallerypost]

Originally posted by hitman699


Wrong, If they had quality site that was well updated they would maintain customers.. there is no use whatsoever for these below board tactics. They should say join today for 5 bucks for trial access to our preview page (not the whole site). That would have been a bit more honest. Just my opinion.

How much % of the ppl would cancel their trial membership after this 3 days if they already finish downloading all the content after the first 3 hours ?

i guess someting like 75% or maybe even around 90% ...

So what the surfer did is ripping collegefuckfest, why would collegefuckfest would wanna let the surfer do someting like that ?

[gallerypost]

Originally posted by FATPad
Don't offer trials. Nothing says you have to.

what i'm saying that if the sufer liked the site he should pay the 25$ or 30$ monthly fee for it, if not so he doesn't.

So for 5$ he got a little bit, if we want everyting he WON'T get it for 5$.

[frankfortuna]

I like the site and the concept, however, the trials are not converting in my experience. Hence, I think the concept could be working against them.

[titmowse]

where is this 5 dollar trial link?

[Ramster]

Originally posted by AaronM



Hey Newbie...How about if you ask them about it. The owners of that site happen to post here from time to time. They have been running very sucessful sites for awhile now.

Just because you are pissed that you could not get a nut from a five buck investment is no reason to trash their program. Buy a magazine next time ya cheap bastard.

[<IMX>]

titmouse--
Back out of the billing page and you will get a trial pop-up.

[Asthma]

Hey guys the technique were using is very effective we receive very little complaints and are chargeback ratio is 0.10 if a costumer complains we give him a refund no question ask. Our rebills have doubled and as we add more content it will get even better. Now when a 3 day membership is purchased they get access to our latest update which can very from 35-60 minutes in length and if they like what they see they have the option to active to a full member with a simple click of the mouse.

kevin

[420palace]

Yo,
I run a bong and glass pipe business called 420palace.com , and my office is right above the guys that run collegfuckfest and TRUST me, they must be doing something right cause I go in there and chill with them from time to time and they are making MONEY. I wont go into details, but if they had a problem with chargebacks, they would have all the shit they got, so sales must be good, I would recommend signing up for their affiliate program. Peace

[pr0]

Originally posted by 420palace
Yo,
I run a bong and glass pipe business called 420palace.com , and my office is right above the guys that run collegfuckfest and TRUST me, they must be doing something right cause I go in there and chill with them from time to time and they are making MONEY. I wont go into details, but if they had a problem with chargebacks, they would have all the shit they got, so sales must be good, I would recommend signing up for their affiliate program. Peace

You have a nice collection of glass, next time im in the market for a pipe/bubbler i'll hit you up

[rnicey]

When CFF came to us and asked us for this it did make me stop and think for a moment. However we put the code in place, the customer can upgrade to the full monthly price at anytime during their trial membership with simply the last 4 of their credit card number. They do not have to wait until the 3 days is up.
They are now not the only WSB sites using this and so far it's shown a few things very clearly.

1. Many customers cancel immediately, even before they have viewed the content. Then they go into the site, most likely to download everything they can. Many of these, when realising they can't soak the lot, upgrade (thereby resurrecting their membership), cancel again and go and download everything. At least the webmaster gets his full monthly fee for this.

2. Almost all of the customers who like the sites upgrade within an hour or so. This is a great revenue boost for webmasters who don't have to wait 3-5 days. Neither do their affiliates.

3. Give us an idea, give us a week, and if we like it we'll build it for our webmasters.

Plug plug plug

[vik]

Originally posted by rnicey
When CFF came to us and asked us for this it did make me stop and think for a moment. However we put the code in place, the customer can upgrade to the full monthly price at anytime during their trial membership with simply the last 4 of their credit card number. They do not have to wait until the 3 days is up.
They are now not the only WSB sites using this and so far it's shown a few things very clearly.

1. Many customers cancel immediately, even before they have viewed the content. Then they go into the site, most likely to download everything they can. Many of these, when realising they can't soak the lot, upgrade (thereby resurrecting their membership), cancel again and go and download everything. At least the webmaster gets his full monthly fee for this.

2. Almost all of the customers who like the sites upgrade within an hour or so. This is a great revenue boost for webmasters who don't have to wait 3-5 days. Neither do their affiliates.

3. Give us an idea, give us a week, and if we like it we'll build it for our webmasters.

Plug plug plug

There might be some merit to your methods. I'll have to consider that. I would think it should be very apparent before the purchase though? How does that work with your biller? I use CCBILL.



vik

[Pornkings]

Personally I think its a fucken great Idea.

[rnicey]

Originally posted by vik

How does that work with your biller? I use CCBILL.



vik

That's quite funny. Maybe you have sigs turned off.

[E-Randy]

You're absolutely right rnicey... what most webmasters don't realize is that a lot of surfers are very savvy and they try to get the most bang for their buck. Many customers will sign up for a trial and then cancel right away just to take your content. I think the way that CFF is handling this is probably the best way to keep down chargebacks while keeping rebills high. What would keep chargebacks down even more is if you don't rebill the customer for the monthly membership unless they actually put in their last 4 digits of their card number and authorize it. Of course then you'll have less renewals from trial to monthly, but I bet you would cut the chargebacks significantly.

[titmowse]

okay. i had to open up IE to get that trial pop up to work. mozilla disables most pops btw.

so this is the wording for the trial:

"3 day trial and loyalty discount for $5.00"

whereas a better phrase would be:

"3 day limited trial and loyalty discount for $5.00"

this is by no means fraud or false advertising. false advertising would be this phrase:

"3 day unlimited trial and loyalty discount for $5.00"

[hitman699]

Originally posted by rnicey
When CFF came to us and asked us for this it did make me stop and think for a moment. However we put the code in place, the customer can upgrade to the full monthly price at anytime during their trial membership with simply the last 4 of their credit card number. They do not have to wait until the 3 days is up.
They are now not the only WSB sites using this and so far it's shown a few things very clearly.

1. Many customers cancel immediately, even before they have viewed the content. Then they go into the site, most likely to download everything they can. Many of these, when realising they can't soak the lot, upgrade (thereby resurrecting their membership), cancel again and go and download everything. At least the webmaster gets his full monthly fee for this.

2. Almost all of the customers who like the sites upgrade within an hour or so. This is a great revenue boost for webmasters who don't have to wait 3-5 days. Neither do their affiliates.

3. Give us an idea, give us a week, and if we like it we'll build it for our webmasters.

Plug plug plug

Thats fine, at least let the customer know that they are getting a 3 day trial to a watered down version of the site. let them make the decision to go with it if they want and don't con them into signing up as if there getting 3 days access to the site only to find that not what they get. ..as far as Im concerned that is illegal and unethical. I would have no problem at all with this billing method IF surfers were informed they were really only getting access to a preview page for their fee not "3 DAY TRIAL
TO THE WORLDS FIRST ORIGINAL COLLEGE WEBSITE FOR ONLY
$5 DOLLARS" It amazes me that websitebilling.com goes along with this....deceptive business practice

[vik]

Originally posted by rnicey
That's quite funny. Maybe you have sigs turned off.

Ooops - sorry about that rnicey. Guess I'm trying to multi-task a little too much here. Missed the sig and the plug.

[gallerypost]

Originally posted by pr0


You have a nice collection of glass, next time im in the market for a pipe/bubbler i'll hit you up

Man.. amazing site ;)

Content me on icq - 159514975

I can setup you alot of sales ;))))

[Lexxx]

Originally posted by E-Randy
You're absolutely right rnicey... what most webmasters don't realize is that a lot of surfers are very savvy and they try to get the most bang for their buck. Many customers will sign up for a trial and then cancel right away just to take your content. I think the way that CFF is handling this is probably the best way to keep down chargebacks while keeping rebills high. What would keep chargebacks down even more is if you don't rebill the customer for the monthly membership unless they actually put in their last 4 digits of their card number and authorize it. Of course then you'll have less renewals from trial to monthly, but I bet you would cut the chargebacks significantly.

That would make sense for low volume sites...

[420palace]

gallerypost

hey, I don't have icq...go ahead and email us..you can find the address in the site...looking forward to hooking up and doing business with you!

[Pipecrew]

This is no new concept........ Topbucks/truecash did this years ago.......


collegefuckfest needs actual REAL and better content, they wont retain anyways, so why all the bitching

[FlyingIguana]

'3 day trial period for 5 bucks'

note the trial. there has to be something in the terms for the trial that says its a limited trial and not full blown access. anyways i think its kinda risky considering how easy it is to chargeback. they must have a large % of chargebacks because most surfers are trained that a 3 day trial is full access.

[gallerypost]

Originally posted by 420palace
gallerypost

hey, I don't have icq...go ahead and email us..you can find the address in the site...looking forward to hooking up and doing business with you!

well.. i didn't find any support e-mail on the website.. what's your e-mail ?

[420palace]

info AT 420palace

thanks, Alex