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Old 07-10-2008, 01:57 AM   #1
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WOW! Mohammed was a jew!

Seriously...


The early part of the Qur?an was written while Muhammad lived in Mecca, a town with very few Jews and no Jewish tribes. At the time, he presented himself to the Meccans as a Jewish prophet based on the stories that he learned from the Jews that he met on his travels ? and from his cousin Waraqa, a convert from Judaism (the Qur?an addresses this accusation, but responds merely by denying it).

When Muhammad relocated to Medina, there were three Jewish tribes living there already whose good graces he needed to stay in initially, since he and his small band of Muslim immigrants were in a position of relative weakness. He tried to convince the Jews that he was the last in the succession of their own prophets and even changed the Qibla (direction of prayer) toward Jerusalem, the center of the Jewish world.

The Jews at Medina were not impressed with Muhammad?s esoteric claims, particularly since there were obvious discrepancies between their Torah and his version of the same stories. In the Qur?an, history from the Bible is presented immaturely and sounds more like a series of fairy tales with the same redundant moral ? believe in Muhammad?s claims about himself or face earthly destruction and eternal torment.

When asked why he didn?t provide proof of his prophethood by performing some sort of miracle as the prophets of the past had done, Muhammad came up with a clever excuse by saying that there was not point in doing so since the Jews had rejected those past prophets anyway (Quran 3:183-184). Thus, Muhammad had nothing to offer but his own testimony.

The prophet of Islam did not handle the Jewish rejection well, particularly since his people had been heavily relying on the truth of his earlier claims to being a prophet in the same ?mode? as Moses, Abraham and Jesus. Muhammad "resolved" his dilemma by claiming that the Jews of Medina were heretics and he arbitrarily dismissed their ?version? of the Torah by claiming that they had corrupted it and ?hidden? the verses that supported his claims of being a prophet. (Interestingly, despite the many Jews who converted to Islam, either out of compulsion or free will, no one ever produced the ?uncorrupted? Torah that was supposed to have existed).

Following Muhammad?s victory against the Meccans at Badr, his wealth and power had increased to the point of being able to take care of his ?Jew problem.? The words of the Qur?an become noticeably harsher toward the ?People of the Book? in the Medina portion of the text, and his actions become confrontational.


I been studying alot lately about Islam on my off time there are alot fo sources and cross referencing sources and using this Koran I got things are p[iecing together in a very interesting way. Holy fuck it get's weirder and weirder!
The Jews basically told him to fuck himself as tried to claim he was a Jewish Prophet. When he couldnt do any Miracles nor ever did a Miracle the Jews Dismissed him.
From then on Mohammed was technically a Jewish heretic!
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Neat info, thanks for the read.
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Old 07-10-2008, 04:50 AM   #3
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Old 07-10-2008, 05:30 AM   #4
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All religions are based of the old testament.
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It goes much further..

Muslims and Jews have the same father (but other mother)
In the Koran is written that the Jews are the keepers of the books.
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It goes much further..

Muslims and Jews have the same father (but other mother)
In the Koran is written that the Jews are the keepers of the books.
Well you would think Mohammed was from some different tribe, or that perhaps that he would never goto Jewish Elder's and proclaim himself as Jewish Prophet.
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All religions are based of the old testament.

religion = afterlife insurance

and all culture is bacterial
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