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Serge_Oprano · 10-22-2002, 03:50 PM

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Originally posted by gotys

That's about all they can own or claim to own.... Internet is not someone's house, interet is public-domain and always will be.

so, let me understand what's going on:

X submits gallery to XYZ

you on your TGP provide link to this gallery too

right?

if this is the case, I don't see "corpus delicti"

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no crime in that.

the Shemp · 10-22-2002, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gotys

I never did, and never will bro, no worries.

Thanks, but if you need a few, the top20, left column are good

shemp

gotys · 10-22-2002, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano

so, let me understand what's going on:

X submits gallery to XYZ

you on your TGP provide link to this gallery too

right?

if this is the case, I don't see "corpus delicti"

-
no crime in that.

Correct, just like google or yahoo.

Serge_Oprano · 10-22-2002, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gotys

Correct, just like google or yahoo.

I think people who complain about it can take salt and put it on your tail...

I feel sorry I started this thread...

want me to ask Admin to remove it completely?

Sly_RJ · 10-22-2002, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano

so, let me understand what's going on:

X submits gallery to XYZ

you on your TGP provide link to this gallery too

right?

if this is the case, I don't see "corpus delicti"

-
no crime in that.

Yes. And the copied link also often has a copied description/title.

As a TGP owner I would be pissed. As a gallery maker I would be happy.

Serge_Oprano · 10-22-2002, 04:45 PM

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Originally posted by Sly_RJ

Yes. And the copied link also often has a copied description/title.

As a TGP owner I would be pissed. As a gallery maker I would be happy.

Guys,
I know NOTHING about TGP, Galleries, etc...

Hun was a small guy with a big mouth and very cute blond wife just before I retired.

As I said before -
I DON'T KNOW EXACT MECANICS HOW THIS WORKS,
but still feel I was wrong starting this post...

Steve · 10-22-2002, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano

As I said before -
I DON'T KNOW EXACT MECANICS HOW THIS WORKS,
but still feel I was wrong starting this post...

Nah, he's doing it. I just went to Cliphunter and clicked the Amateurs section link:

Oct 22 Amateur 3 - taken from Pinkworld
Oct 22 Amateur 4 - taken from Pinkworld
Oct 22 Amateur 7 - taken from Greg Pix
Oct 23 Amateur 9 - taken from Greg Pix

That's four links out of the top 10. I don't think it's a crime, but it might not be the coolest thing to do. Notice how Shemp said don't take his links? And the matrix boys said they'd pull any Shemp galleries? Everyone will live, but to see this kid laugh it off, and just flat out deny it, is funny. It's not like it isn't obvious - but if nobody gives a shit, then I guess it is fair game on links - as long as the descriptions are changed?

Serge_Oprano · 10-22-2002, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Steve

Nah, he's doing it. I just went to Cliphunter and clicked the Amateurs section link:

Oct 22 Amateur 3 - taken from Pinkworld
Oct 22 Amateur 4 - taken from Pinkworld
Oct 22 Amateur 7 - taken from Greg Pix
Oct 23 Amateur 9 - taken from Greg Pix

That's four links out of the top 10. I don't think it's a crime, but it might not be the coolest thing to do. Notice how Shemp said don't take his links? And the matrix boys said they'd pull any Shemp galleries? Everyone will live, but to see this kid laugh it off, and just flat out deny it, is funny. It's not like it isn't obvious - but if nobody gives a shit, then I guess it is fair game on links - as long as the descriptions are changed?

guys, this is all over my head...I see angry TGP post owners and very happy webmasters...

If he found the loophole how to be legal but not cool,
more power to him
;-))

<IMX> · 10-22-2002, 05:49 PM

Steve--
Thanks that's all I want to know.
If it is fair game or not.

I do not care either way, I can see how gallery makers would like it, and how tgp owners would hate it.

So, the consensus is link harvesting is fair game.

Mutt · 10-22-2002, 06:03 PM

BWAHAHAHHAHHHAHHHAHAHH......... this is rich! Matrix in bed with a dude who rips off gallery listings. Matrix understands copyrights only when the copyrights belong to them.

Number One MatrixBoy, the text is not yours or this Gotys idiot's, it belongs to the person who wrote the text link and the TGP owner who received the submission.

Number Two, while it might not be illegal to steal gallery listings, it is unethical - people put a lot of time and effort, some hire people to do their submission reviews - taking somebody else's hard work makes you two look like dicks.

i'm hearing from some models that Matrix screwed them over. You know anything about it?

Serge_Oprano · 10-22-2002, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mutt
BWAHAHAHHAHHHAHHHAHAHH......... this is rich! Matrix in bed with a dude who rips off gallery listings. Matrix understands copyrights only when the copyrights belong to them.

Number One MatrixBoy, the text is not yours or this Gotys idiot's, it belongs to the person who wrote the text link and the TGP owner who received the submission.

Number Two, while it might not be illegal to steal gallery listings, it is unethical - people put a lot of time and effort, some hire people to do their submission reviews - taking somebody else's hard work makes you two look like dicks.

i'm hearing from some models that Matrix screwed them over. You know anything about it?

mutt,
ethics in porn????

c'mon, people will screw you for $5 in this business...

MaxxB · 10-22-2002, 06:14 PM

fiveyes · 10-22-2002, 06:25 PM

Fletch XXX · 10-22-2002, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ
As a TGP owner I would be pissed. As a gallery maker I would be happy.

Until you realize 4 major TGPs with Mega traffic have stolen your gallery link from lets say Persian Kitty and your gallery gets hit with a bunch of bullshit traffic from Dishonest webmasters gathering links.

When I make galleries they are designed TGP specific and Ill be damned if I want just any tgp dumping a fuckload of their worthless freeloading traffic, how can you all miss this?

Fuck the link rights, what about all the freeloaders these fuckers send.

Hah, you can keep your traffic.

Sly_RJ · 10-22-2002, 06:43 PM

Very good points Fletch. A new perspective.

Wiredoctor · 10-22-2002, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX

Until you realize 4 major TGPs with Mega traffic have stolen your gallery link from lets say Persian Kitty and your gallery gets hit with a bunch of bullshit traffic from Dishonest webmasters gathering links.

When I make galleries they are designed TGP specific and Ill be damned if I want just any tgp dumping a fuckload of their worthless freeloading traffic, how can you all miss this?

Fuck the link rights, what about all the freeloaders these fuckers send.

Hah, you can keep your traffic.

I totally agree. I don't want traffic from some of these thieving assholes sites. I could care less if they send a ton of traffic, I don't want their garbage. Volumes of high traffic is not always a good thing. I don't want a shitload of traffic from sites that get their traffic from cj's and only traded tgp crap. I choose where I get my traffic from and do not appriciate people stealing my listings from other peoples sites.

crack · 10-22-2002, 06:47 PM

Serge, that's the way it is:

"Good artists copy. Great artists steal" ? Picasso

repeated by Steve Jobs:
http://www.geek.com/readercomm/081999/comm85.htm

gotys · 10-22-2002, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mutt
BWAHAHAHHAHHHAHHHAHAHH......... this is rich! Matrix in bed with a dude who rips off gallery listings. Matrix understands copyrights only when the copyrights belong to them.

Number One MatrixBoy, the text is not yours or this Gotys idiot's, it belongs to the person who wrote the text link and the TGP owner who received the submission.

Number Two, while it might not be illegal to steal gallery listings, it is unethical - people put a lot of time and effort, some hire people to do their submission reviews - taking somebody else's hard work makes you two look like dicks.

i'm hearing from some models that Matrix screwed them over. You know anything about it?

Number One Retarded-Boy: Where do you see text?
Number Two Retarded-Boy: I guess Japanesse are dicks for stealing most of the world's best products and turning them into even better ones.

gotys · 10-22-2002, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wiredoctor

I totally agree. I don't want traffic from some of these thieving assholes sites. I could care less if they send a ton of traffic, I don't want their garbage. Volumes of high traffic is not always a good thing. I don't want a shitload of traffic from sites that get their traffic from cj's and only traded tgp crap. I choose where I get my traffic from and do not appriciate people stealing my listings from other peoples sites.

There is this thing called .htaccess that lets you prevent that. Maybe you should search that keyword on google

gotys · 10-22-2002, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano

I think people who complain about it can take salt and put it on your tail...

I feel sorry I started this thread...

want me to ask Admin to remove it completely?

No bro, I am getting quiete entertained

Thanks for the post

Rep · 10-22-2002, 07:37 PM

well if you didnt want traffic from other sites you can control which referrers you accept on your own server. its not like it's out of your control.

spanky · 10-22-2002, 07:54 PM

right on... I'm going to go grab a copy of yahoo for my web site. ;-)

Wiredoctor · 10-22-2002, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gotys

There is this thing called .htaccess that lets you prevent that. Maybe you should search that keyword on google

I dont have the time to block all the traffic that comes in from thieving fuck faces that are to damm lazy to run there sites without being thieves.

Why would I want the garbage hit bot and cj traffic you have??

TarPy · 10-22-2002, 09:29 PM

Actually, I'm not even sure that there would be an argument if he was. I know for a fact he's not, because I've never gotten his traffic in my logs from other sites, but beyond that, the compilation of links are only protected how they are compiled. So if he re-categorizes them, or even re-orders them, it's a transformative process, so I don't think you could complain.

Either way, serge, is he stealing from your site? What's with the big expose, just feel the need to play drama boy, or was their a point. BTW, did you even bother checking on the LAW on the subject?

TarPy

gotys · 10-22-2002, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TarPy
Actually, I'm not even sure that there would be an argument if he was. I know for a fact he's not, because I've never gotten his traffic in my logs from other sites, but beyond that, the compilation of links are only protected how they are compiled. So if he re-categorizes them, or even re-orders them, it's a transformative process, so I don't think you could complain.

Either way, serge, is he stealing from your site? What's with the big expose, just feel the need to play drama boy, or was their a point. BTW, did you even bother checking on the LAW on the subject?

TarPy

TarPy, he only posted an email he got from someone, he didn't come up with that, and he already appologized.

chAos-mAtrix · 10-22-2002, 10:17 PM

Hey MUTT i said do not say my company name again .. you know that we have left you alone on a couple of occasions. We are helping to run a great tgp and zilla is giving us tips.

Mutt i will not even respond to your rhetoric...LOL if you were someone that could say anything other than hey i shoot stuff better than Matrix i would consider you competition but since you cannot find a marketing plan other than that you are of no concern

Serge great thread..

Serge_Oprano · 10-22-2002, 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TarPy

Either way, serge, is he stealing from your site? What's with the big expose, just feel the need to play drama boy, or was their a point. BTW, did you even bother checking on the LAW on the subject?

TarPy

TarPy,
this whole thread shouldn't be here,
somebody has used me for piggy back ride on this one
;-(

10-22-2002, 05:49 PM	#59
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Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	BWAHAHAHHAHHHAHHHAHAHH......... this is rich! Matrix in bed with a dude who rips off gallery listings. Matrix understands copyrights only when the copyrights belong to them. Number One MatrixBoy, the text is not yours or this Gotys idiot's, it belongs to the person who wrote the text link and the TGP owner who received the submission. Number Two, while it might not be illegal to steal gallery listings, it is unethical - people put a lot of time and effort, some hire people to do their submission reviews - taking somebody else's hard work makes you two look like dicks. i'm hearing from some models that Matrix screwed them over. You know anything about it? __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

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TarPy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 758	Actually, I'm not even sure that there would be an argument if he was. I know for a fact he's not, because I've never gotten his traffic in my logs from other sites, but beyond that, the compilation of links are only protected how they are compiled. So if he re-categorizes them, or even re-orders them, it's a transformative process, so I don't think you could complain. Either way, serge, is he stealing from your site? What's with the big expose, just feel the need to play drama boy, or was their a point. BTW, did you even bother checking on the LAW on the subject? TarPy __________________ Not Working

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chAos-mAtrix Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: FUCKING Los Angeles Posts: 111	Hey MUTT i said do not say my company name again .. you know that we have left you alone on a couple of occasions. We are helping to run a great tgp and zilla is giving us tips. Mutt i will not even respond to your rhetoric...LOL if you were someone that could say anything other than hey i shoot stuff better than Matrix i would consider you competition but since you cannot find a marketing plan other than that you are of no concern Serge great thread.. __________________ chAos (Jeff) Director of Operations www.matrixcontent.com - Woody Winner www.matrixbucks.com - Earn 30 per Free Join www.matrixdollars.com - 50/50 PartnerSites Last edited by chAos-mAtrix; 10-22-2002 at 10:42 PM..