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Old 06-22-2008, 05:15 PM   #51
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I'll leave you with this to think about.

"Controlling the petroleum of the world is essential for total world domination, where all nations are subdued and impoverished."


On another note, chew on this for a moment..

What would happen to the US economy and the dollar value if Iran floods the global market with cheap oil posted only in Euro?
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Old 06-22-2008, 05:16 PM   #52
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Old 06-22-2008, 05:16 PM   #53
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Actually you can blame Bush for the speculative buyers. He was the one the decided to not regulate the way oil was traded and rejected an in work Clinton plan to regulate it. This allowed for people to control huge lots of oil with very little actual capitol. With speculation you only need to put 5% down. So you can control 1 million worth of oil for as little at 50K, this has helped drive the price way up.
Didn't WJC sign the Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000 into law about two months before he left office when it was attached as a rider to an appropriations bill? I'd love to hear more about this rejected Clinton plan to "regulate it".
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Old 06-22-2008, 05:23 PM   #54
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Didn't WJC sign the Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000 into law about two months before he left office when it was attached as a rider to an appropriations bill? I'd love to hear more about this rejected Clinton plan to "regulate it".
Yes Clinton signed it, it was placed in a 11k page appropriations bill. Phil Gramm sponsored it and its called the Enron looppole and his wife was on the board at the time. Its funny Gramm is Mccains financial adviser, he gets a free pass on that for some reason.
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Old 06-22-2008, 06:41 PM   #55
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Actually it hasnt been for 50 yrs.The first successful CIA ovethrow of a government was 1953 in Iran when they installed the Shah. So it might of given them a little attitude problem.
http://www.lobster-magazine.co.uk/articles/l30iran.htm
Yeah, Operation Ajax is where this all began. I've been saying that for years now.
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Old 06-22-2008, 06:54 PM   #56
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Actually it hasnt been for 50 yrs.
Does it matter if the figure I used is or isn't exact to the year? My point was it's been many years that Iran has had a piss poor attitude.

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http://www.lobster-magazine.co.uk/articles/l30iran.htm
There's always decades and centuries-old reasons with countries like Iran, Iraq, Syria, etc. Always. What happened in the 1950's and 60's etc can stay there, why should it be a legitimate thing to use as an excuse for what's going on today?

I'm sorry if I misunderstand your intent Tony, but it remains my opinion that no way in hell should this country be allowed to possess nuclear capability. It's not me that's standing in their way, but I support those who do. Israel is reactionary, they aren't going to start something unless the other side goes ahead with plans which Israel deems a threat to their existance.

Of course I would ultimately prefer that everyone over there just shut the hell up and get along and be at peace.
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Everyone should re-watch Mad Max and Road Warrior (forget Thunderdome) to see how the rising gas prices will turn out.
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Everyone should re-watch Mad Max and Road Warrior (forget Thunderdome) to see how the rising gas prices will turn out.
That's similar to what my father inlaw said the other day
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Didn't WJC sign the Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000 into law about two months before he left office when it was attached as a rider to an appropriations bill? I'd love to hear more about this rejected Clinton plan to "regulate it".
I guess I didn't explain it fully. Essentially the bill was pushed through and clinton signed. Clinton, near the end of his presidency, put into motion a series of rules/laws that would essentially limit companies ability to use these new regulation (or lack that there of) to control the energy markets and hide much of the profit in offshore accounts so that you couldn't tell who exactly was carrying out this manipulation. Bush scraped those plans as soon as he got into the white house. So he didn't really cause the deregulation, he did, however allow and endorse the transparency of it so that the people who do this can hide and not be questioned or taken to task for it. They actually call it the Enron Loophole.
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Old 06-22-2008, 08:13 PM   #60
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...and then the world will be ruled by damn dirty apes!
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...and then the world will be ruled by damn dirty apes!
Damn dirty apes!
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