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Old 06-19-2008, 08:31 PM   #1
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I'm losing my job. :-(

Well it looks like I'm going to be let go. That makes 69 lay offs.

Starting July 1st, I am a free agent and am open to offers. I come from a marketing background second to none and have a lot of little tricks up my sleeve that any size company could benefit from.
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Old 06-19-2008, 08:32 PM   #2
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That sucks...fuck Zango (not you, the company).
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Old 06-19-2008, 08:39 PM   #6
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Old 06-19-2008, 08:47 PM   #11
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Wouldn't you be more employable if you would have had the ETHICS not to work for a bunch of THIEVES like Zango in the first place?
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Old 06-19-2008, 08:53 PM   #14
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Wouldn't you be more employable if you would have had the ETHICS not to work for a bunch of THIEVES like Zango in the first place?
With all due respect, it is webmasters / affiliates who sign up to Zango and trick the surfer into downloading our software. All we do is create the software and deliver media once the software is installed. We don't put it on websites for surfers to install.

Of course, you guys don't bust the balls of your bros when you see them, and the biggest bros out there promote Zango. The same as they support AFF. It's all about money at the end of the day and the people you currently do business with and your best friends are secretly promoting us and other sites like us. That's the cold hard truth.
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Old 06-19-2008, 08:55 PM   #15
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With all due respect, it is webmasters / affiliates who sign up to Zango and trick the surfer into downloading our software. All we do is create the software and deliver media once the software is installed. We don't put it on websites for surfers to install.

Of course, you guys don't bust the balls of your bros when you see them, and the biggest bros out there promote Zango. The same as they support AFF. It's all about money at the end of the day and the people you currently do business with and your best friends are secretly promoting us and other sites like us. That's the cold hard truth.
Then don't expect sympathy when the same scamming company hands you your pinkslip. Short-term thinking has fucked this entire industry, and Zango led the way.
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Despite the initiatives of 2005, 180solutions admitted that it is possible for malicious users to hack their install routines and thus cause fraudulent installs.[10] They claim that the percentage of fraudulent installs has dropped from over 10&#37; to under 1%. Critics claim that the business model is untenable because fraud against 180solutions (which therefore harms unknowing users via non-consensual installs) can never be completely removed.[11]

In early 2008, a malicious Facebook widget was discovered by Fortinet as luring users to install Zango under the pretence of identifying a “Secret Crush”.[12] This has since been proven to be untrue by an InfoWorld blogger.[13]

On June 17 2008, Zango announced it was laying off over 30% of its staff including senior executives Ken Smith and York Baur in an attempt to focus on its new product 'Platrium'. [14]
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What's your new nick gonna be?
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Old 06-19-2008, 09:10 PM   #22
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Short-term thinking has fucked this entire industry, and Zango led the way.
Yea, Zango is the reason the industry is failing. Nice try. THE INDUSTRY is the reason why the industry is failing. We were simply just a spoke in the wheel, and it's a big wheel with a lot of spokes.

Pre-Checked cross sales below the join line isn't hurting the industry? Sites that don't update don't hurt the industry? Free content on TGPs, MGPs and Tube Sites don't hurt the industry? WAREZ and torrents don't hurt the industry? $100 pay outs on $1 trials don't hurt the industry? Not policing content isn't hurting the industry? SPAM isn't hurting the industry? Felons and criminals who run sites and programs are not ruining the industry? Content theft isn't hurting the industry? Saturation of over used shit content hasn't hurt the industry? The list goes on and on.

Nobody can say ZANGO alone ruined the industry. Any webmaster who thinks otherwise simply needs to look in the mirror and check the name on the checks he is cashing. You can count on everyone getting at least one check from a shady company who is hurting the industry, and they cash that check with a smile on their face.
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Aren't you relieved ?

What's your new nick gonna be?
"The Biggest Stand Up Bro"

That way I can still be unethical, and as long as I'm cool to everyone and buy drinks at the shows and pose for a few gay looking pics, it's all good.



Other ideas: Honest Abe, Lars Reloaded, Cash Bucks Money, Big Bro Big Bucks, Cock Smootch or Zango Mango
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Old 06-19-2008, 09:30 PM   #27
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Why defend a company that dropped you into the unemployment line?
I'm not. Just stating the facts. Everyone blames Zango but NODBOY blames their webmaster friends for promoting it. Just the same as everyone will suck someone like Lars cock in a heartbeat, yet Various, Inc is a shady company who was doing business with Zango and made a KILLING, not to mention they host an insane amount of stolen content. That is my point. It's only unethical when you're not friends with them.

Take Zango out of the equation and the industry would still be failing. This is an industry that is unable to regulate itself, police itself or even band together to seriously fight against the opposition. Everyone is out for themselves and now it is time to reap what so many of you have sown.

There are a plenty of solid and honest people, such as yourself. But generally speaking, it's full of bottom feeders. This is not news to you or anyone else.
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I always thought you were a troll. I actually still think that. Why does everyone here believe you?
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Well it looks like I'm going to be let go. That makes 69 lay offs.

Starting July 1st, I am a free agent and am open to offers. I come from a marketing background second to none and have a lot of little tricks up my sleeve that any size company could benefit from.
I would like to hire you to let Donny Long suck your cock on film... let me know...
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he made me laugh for sure, between the lines he speaks truth, and how he said it was just dry and funny. Anyway, good luck with your.... whatever you do
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lol that sucks but seriously lol at mikeyDDD
Dude, I love the avatar... is that your rottie?
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I always thought you were a troll. I actually still think that. Why does everyone here believe you?
I'm only 5'5. Some would call that a troll.
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Massive layouts at popup advertizer Zango

Yup it was posted on another forum..

Zango, the controversial online advertising company whose business tactics have been consistently atttacked by privacy experts, has laid off 68 employees.

The cutbacks -- announced internally yesterday -- come as the Bellevue provider of pop-up ads attempts to transform into a casual games distributor. The layoffs also come a month after Zango was named one of the best companies to work for in the state by Washington CEO magazine.
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I'm not. Just stating the facts. Everyone blames Zango but NODBOY blames their webmaster friends for promoting it. Just the same as everyone will suck someone like Lars cock in a heartbeat, yet Various, Inc is a shady company who was doing business with Zango and made a KILLING, not to mention they host an insane amount of stolen content. That is my point. It's only unethical when you're not friends with them.

Take Zango out of the equation and the industry would still be failing. This is an industry that is unable to regulate itself, police itself or even band together to seriously fight against the opposition. Everyone is out for themselves and now it is time to reap what so many of you have sown.

There are a plenty of solid and honest people, such as yourself. But generally speaking, it's full of bottom feeders. This is not news to you or anyone else.
So you are saying Zango is doing business with companies who they know are not legit? Who would have thought
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Yea, Zango is the reason the industry is failing. Nice try. THE INDUSTRY is the reason why the industry is failing. We were simply just a spoke in the wheel, and it's a big wheel with a lot of spokes.

Pre-Checked cross sales below the join line isn't hurting the industry? Sites that don't update don't hurt the industry? Free content on TGPs, MGPs and Tube Sites don't hurt the industry? WAREZ and torrents don't hurt the industry? $100 pay outs on $1 trials don't hurt the industry? Not policing content isn't hurting the industry? SPAM isn't hurting the industry? Felons and criminals who run sites and programs are not ruining the industry? Content theft isn't hurting the industry? Saturation of over used shit content hasn't hurt the industry? The list goes on and on.

Nobody can say ZANGO alone ruined the industry. Any webmaster who thinks otherwise simply needs to look in the mirror and check the name on the checks he is cashing. You can count on everyone getting at least one check from a shady company who is hurting the industry, and they cash that check with a smile on their face.

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I'm not. Just stating the facts. Everyone blames Zango but NODBOY blames their webmaster friends for promoting it. Just the same as everyone will suck someone like Lars cock in a heartbeat, yet Various, Inc is a shady company who was doing business with Zango and made a KILLING, not to mention they host an insane amount of stolen content. That is my point. It's only unethical when you're not friends with them.

Take Zango out of the equation and the industry would still be failing. This is an industry that is unable to regulate itself, police itself or even band together to seriously fight against the opposition. Everyone is out for themselves and now it is time to reap what so many of you have sown.

There are a plenty of solid and honest people, such as yourself. But generally speaking, it's full of bottom feeders. This is not news to you or anyone else.
You can say what you want about Zango, but these are some valid arguments
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Zango did hurt the industry and will continue to.

That is there business model.
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That is there business model.
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Yea, Zango is the reason the industry is failing. Nice try. THE INDUSTRY is the reason why the industry is failing. We were simply just a spoke in the wheel, and it's a big wheel with a lot of spokes.

Pre-Checked cross sales below the join line isn't hurting the industry? Sites that don't update don't hurt the industry? Free content on TGPs, MGPs and Tube Sites don't hurt the industry? WAREZ and torrents don't hurt the industry? $100 pay outs on $1 trials don't hurt the industry? Not policing content isn't hurting the industry? SPAM isn't hurting the industry? Felons and criminals who run sites and programs are not ruining the industry? Content theft isn't hurting the industry? Saturation of over used shit content hasn't hurt the industry? The list goes on and on.

Nobody can say ZANGO alone ruined the industry. Any webmaster who thinks otherwise simply needs to look in the mirror and check the name on the checks he is cashing. You can count on everyone getting at least one check from a shady company who is hurting the industry, and they cash that check with a smile on their face.
Two wrongs don't make a right.

Zango isn't that the spyware that was swapping affiliate codes?
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Old 06-20-2008, 05:49 AM   #44
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that's sad, but still good luck to any upcoming jobs you have.
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Old 06-20-2008, 05:57 AM   #45
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Old 06-20-2008, 06:00 AM   #46
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Well it looks like I'm going to be let go. That makes 69 lay offs.

Starting July 1st, I am a free agent and am open to offers. I come from a marketing background second to none and have a lot of little tricks up my sleeve that any size company could benefit from.
k. so let me understand you correctly.
you worked for a company that stole money and business from this industry and now you are coming back saying you are available to work for that same industry that you help take money and traffic from ?
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Old 06-20-2008, 06:05 AM   #47
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Two wrongs don't make a right.

Zango isn't that the spyware that was swapping affiliate codes?
He left out that part when making some valid arguements. This is a partial fact: "All we do is create the software and deliver media once the software is installed" - they forgot to mention they change affiliate codes, they opened windows in front of your join pages, they allowed companies to bid on your full urls (which apparently the courts got them to stop doing) - they did many a shady thing. The fact does remain though that 80% of the hardworkers got fucked along the line and continue to do so in the industry. You're paying more for traffic, the value of your own traffic is compromised and in the end, you're making less money for your traffic/efforts than you were say, 3-4 years ago.

But he did make some valid points - 98% of the industry is in someway supporting them by supporting the companies who lie in bed with them.


P.S. How have you been Kenny? Long time no chat
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Old 06-20-2008, 06:05 AM   #48
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k. so let me understand you correctly.
you worked for a company that stole money and business from this industry and now you are coming back saying you are available to work for that same industry that you help take money and traffic from ?
I'm not really looking for work. I come here because it's amusing. There is too much money to be made in mainstream and gaming that adult, with 95% less the hassle.

I am losing my job however. That is not a joke. But I already have a new one lined up.

I wouldn't work for an adult company no matter what the salary. At least at Zango we didn't fuck each other over every chance we got. Everyone got paid. We know what we sell and create and that is that. It has just come down that they need to downsize. But you guys, wow. I read this forum and all I read is about how X is fucking over Y and Z didn't pay A. Typical porno criminal shit.
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Old 06-20-2008, 06:06 AM   #49
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Thats a low blow
Sweet justice.
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Old 06-20-2008, 06:07 AM   #50
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that sucks hard...take care and see what are u gonna do next
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