Mexico has told the USA to stop the execution of it's citizens - GoFuckYourself.com

GetSCORECash · 06-19-2008, 03:57 AM

If the US allows this, Mexicans can come over to the USA, rape and kill and only have to do a life sentence. No fear of being fried on an electircal chair for them.

Here is the Story:
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2008...cutions-in-us/

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By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
The Associated Press
Wed, Jun 18, 2008 (9:20 p.m.)

THE HAGUE, Netherlands (AP) -- Mexico made an emergency appeal to the U.N.'s highest court Thursday to block the execution of its citizens on death row in the U.S.

Mexico's chief advocate Juan Manuel Gomez-Robledo said the U.S. was ''in breach of its international obligations'' by disregarding a 2004 judgment by the U.N.'s International Court of Justice, which ruled Mexicans were denied the right to consular advice after their arrests, as guaranteed by an international treaty.

The court, informally known as the World Court, has ruled that the Mexicans were entitled to ''review and reconsideration'' of their trials and sentences to determine whether the violation of the 1963 Vienna Convention affected their cases.

President Bush accepted the judgment and asked state courts to review the cases.

Texas refused, and the issue went to the U.S. Supreme Court, which ruled last March by a 6-3 vote that Bush lacked the authority to compel state courts to comply with the judgment from The Hague. The Vienna Convention cannot be binding on the states unless Congress enacts legislation enforcing it as federal law, the Supreme Court said.

Mexico asked the World Court for an ''interpretation'' of its earlier ruling to clarify what it meant when it asked the U.S. to ''review and reconsider'' the cases of the condemned prisoners, and in the meantime to order the halt of the execution timetable.

Gomez-Robledo said that without urgent action now, five Mexican nationals ''will be executed before the conclusion of these proceedings.''

U.S. representatives were due to respond later Thursday before the 13-member tribunal.

Sandra Babcock, representing Mexico, said the World Court's decision four years ago referred to 51 Mexican nationals. Since then, 33 had sought reviews of their cases in state courts.

Only one request was granted, Babcock said. A second inmate accepted a life sentence in exchange for waiving his claim for a review.

''All other efforts to enforce the judgment have failed,'' she said.

Mexico listed five of its citizens slated to die. The first, on Aug. 5, is Jose Medellin, 33, condemned in the gang rape and murder of two teenage girls 15 years ago.

Texas authorities have said Medellin's case has been reviewed by state and federal courts and that he had been given the same right as any American citizen.

But Mexico said in its appeal to the World Court that the U.S. obligation to follow international law also applies to individual states. ''The United States cannot invoke municipal law as justification for failure to perform its international legal obligations,'' it said.

The International Court of Justice is the U.N.'s judicial arm for resolving legal disputes among member states. Its decisions are binding and not subject to appeal, and only rarely have they been defied. Though it has no power of enforcement, the court can report any failure to abide by its decisions to the Security Council.

crockett · 06-19-2008, 06:14 AM

Tell Mexico to stop letting it's citizens cross the boarder and they will no longer have a problem..

ChefJeff · 06-19-2008, 06:16 AM

Are there any other countries whose citizens enter the US illegally besides Mexico?

Zuzana Designs · 06-19-2008, 06:17 AM

That sounds just silly !!! I'm in NC and you have no idea how many Mexicans are here .. Everytime I go into a store they stalk me and babble shit to me ... Don't get me wrong I'm not racist at all but it gets old fast

crockett · 06-19-2008, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ChefJeff

Are there any other countries whose citizens enter the US illegally besides Mexico?

Well people come from other South American countries and come up through Mexico. So many of the so called "Mexicans are from other countries south of the boarder but most are Mexicans.

Then there are of course the illegal Chinese & Russians which are probably a bigger problem in big cities like New York but nothing like the Mexican problem.

crockett · 06-19-2008, 06:22 AM

Personally I'm all for letting anyone have a chance and work if they can find it. However they need to follow the laws and not abuse our system.

ChefJeff · 06-19-2008, 06:27 AM

And so what is the problem? Now that we have determined that people of many nationalities enter the US illegally. I don't think we should execute anyone.

"Thou shalt not kill"

I like the Norwegian justice and punishment system. Look into it.

ChefJeff · 06-19-2008, 06:29 AM

Yes, I agree. Follows the laws and not abuse the system.

bushwacker · 06-19-2008, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ChefJeff

Are there any other countries whose citizens enter the US illegally besides Mexico?

hatians, cubans, dominicans.

Madame0120 · 06-19-2008, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ChefJeff

"Thou shalt not kill"

Not to mention how expensive it is to keep someone on death row.

60 MILLION DOLLARS to excute John Wayne Gacey

LeRoy · 06-19-2008, 07:12 AM

It's a fucking war. Who ever fucks the most wins. Seems the Mexicans can have 10 time more babies then the white peeps.

tranza · 06-19-2008, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ChefJeff

Yes, I agree. Follows the laws and not abuse the system.

Yes i agree too is just follow the laws!

escorpio · 06-19-2008, 07:14 AM

If you come to this country and break our laws you must suffer our consequences.

MichelleB · 06-19-2008, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by escorpio

If you come to this country and break our laws you must suffer our consequences.

I agree.

Dirty F · 06-19-2008, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Madame0120

Not to mention how expensive it is to keep someone on death row.

60 MILLION DOLLARS to excute John Wayne Gacey

Why? What happens with that money?

AnniKN · 06-19-2008, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by escorpio

If you come to this country and break our laws you must suffer our consequences.

Agree with this, however, the issue that the Mexican government is trying to point out, is that on occassion, convicts that were prosecuted for the exact same crimes as American citizens (as in both were taking part in the crime) got death sentence while the Americans got life sentence or even only a few years... due to the ability of the Americans to make a deal with the law or to get better legal deffense. And that appeals pretty much always get refuesed... This and also that there's a higher average of Mexicans getting death row for similar crimes than the White American Male - this sort of issue has been brought up often too regarding how African Americans are more likely to get death sentence too...

Sometimes guys that should get death row don't and sometimes guys who shouldn't, do get it. Justice and law are rarely the same thing.

TubeTitans_SusieQ · 06-19-2008, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett

Tell Mexico to stop letting it's citizens cross the boarder and they will no longer have a problem..

thank you...

pornguy · 06-19-2008, 08:02 AM

I always love to read when people say the " Mexican Problem " What about the Chinese problem. Thats the one you dont hear about. Or the Russian, Or those damn people form Canada in their speedo's

As for what mexico is requesting, one of the things they are saying is that the defendants are not allowed the same chances because they are mexican, Thats funny because the US spends BILLIONS on public defenders every year.

It's not the US's fault that the Mexican commited a crime that makes him face the death sentence.

Quagmire · 06-19-2008, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by pornguy

I always love to read when people say the " Mexican Problem " What about the Chinese problem. Thats the one you dont hear about. Or the Russian, Or those damn people form Canada in their speedo's

As for what mexico is requesting, one of the things they are saying is that the defendants are not allowed the same chances because they are mexican, Thats funny because the US spends BILLIONS on public defenders every year.

It's not the US's fault that the Mexican commited a crime that makes him face the death sentence.

so what are you trying to say? We're not allowed down in Florida anymore?

Kudles · 06-19-2008, 10:27 AM

Hey lets worry about another stupid thing in this country. God forbid we worry about our WAR that's going on!

Kudles · 06-19-2008, 10:27 AM

Hey lets worry about another stupid thing in this country. God forbid we worry about our WAR that's going on.

fris · 06-19-2008, 12:56 PM

dont do the crime then

payd2purv · 06-19-2008, 01:00 PM

Living in Toronto I must say I am fucking sick of immigrants.

I've spent a lot of time in mexico so I know how mexicans are.. I can only imagine what it's like for you americans..

crockett · 06-19-2008, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ChefJeff

And so what is the problem? Now that we have determined that people of many nationalities enter the US illegally. I don't think we should execute anyone.

"Thou shalt not kill"

I like the Norwegian justice and punishment system. Look into it.

If they commit a crime that has the death penalty what should we do.. let them go? put them in jail on our coin? or let them face the same penalty as anyone else in this country? No one held a gun to their head and told them to enter this country illegally, if they then commit a murder on top of that then they deserve what they get.

severe · 06-19-2008, 01:07 PM

right, because an american arrested in mexico would have all these right s afforded to them...

besides shouldn't mexico's embassy provide an attorney and aid to its own citizen in cases like these. i guarantee if i got locked up in another country id be calling the US embassy, for sure.

GatorB · 06-19-2008, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SCORE-Cash

If the US allows this, Mexicans can come over to the USA, rape and kill and only have to do a life sentence. No fear of being fried on an electircal chair for them.

Here is the Story:
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2008...cutions-in-us/

I'd rather be executed than spend life in a Mexican prison. US prisons are bad enough Mexicans are 10X worse. Be honest only an idiot would think a life sentence is actually better than death whether it be in the US or Mexico.

crockett · 06-19-2008, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Quagmire

so what are you trying to say? We're not allowed down in Florida anymore?

If there was anything that deserved the death penalty..

baddog · 06-19-2008, 01:56 PM

Kill them all, let God sort them out.

jollyperv · 06-19-2008, 02:00 PM

Fuck em', mess with the bull you get the horns. If they can't afford proper legal council, they should have thought of that before they commited the crime.

DaddyHalbucks · 06-19-2008, 02:18 PM

Mexico has told the USA to stop the execution of it's citizens
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No problem. Just tell your people to stop coming over here illegally and committing capital crimes.

RyuLion · 06-19-2008, 02:23 PM

I rather get the chair then be in jail for 30 yrs..

Rique · 06-19-2008, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ChefJeff

Are there any other countries whose citizens enter the US illegally besides Mexico?

Yes, America. Just ask the indians.

D-man · 06-19-2008, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SCORE-Cash

Mexico listed five of its citizens slated to die. The first, on Aug. 5, is Jose Medellin, 33, condemned in the gang rape and murder of two teenage girls 15 years ago.

Texas authorities have said Medellin's case has been reviewed by state and federal courts and that he had been given the same right as any American citizen.

this has nothing to do with Mexicans or Meican'ts or the border or anything else! - The one guy, gang raped and murdered 2 teenagers - FUCK HIM AND FRY HIM! Who cares if he's from Mexico or any place, If you rape and murder, you should die and if you do it in Texas well i guess your really fucked!

Voodoo · 06-19-2008, 03:03 PM

How about instead... We just allow legal U.S. citizens to shoot illegal immigrants on the streets? If they shoot someone who was not illegally here, then the shooters just gets the death penalty. OPEN SEASON!

AmateurFlix · 06-19-2008, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by escorpio

If you come to this country and break our laws you must suffer our consequences.

I never thought I'd say this to you escorpio in regards to a topic about illegal immigrants, but I agree

escorpio · 06-19-2008, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by AmateurFlix

I never thought I'd say this to you escorpio in regards to a topic about illegal immigrants, but I agree

I'm not about to cut violent criminals any slack, I don't care where they're from or how they got here.

Libertine · 06-19-2008, 06:10 PM

In this thread, Americans show themselves to be illiterate.

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Mexico's chief advocate Juan Manuel Gomez-Robledo said the U.S. was ''in breach of its international obligations'' by disregarding a 2004 judgment by the U.N.'s International Court of Justice, which ruled Mexicans were denied the right to consular advice after their arrests, as guaranteed by an international treaty.

And again:

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Mexicans were denied the right to consular advice after their arrests, as guaranteed by an international treaty

vidsta · 06-19-2008, 06:19 PM

what the hell´s goin´ on there, they´re flowing over the border as if a bag of beans exploded there...

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GrouchyAdmin · 06-19-2008, 06:32 PM

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baddog · 06-19-2008, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Libertine

In this thread, Americans show themselves to be illiterate.

And again:

I forgot, if someone alleges something, it must be true.

Compdoctor · 06-19-2008, 08:19 PM

There is an old song "If you can't do the time, Don't do the crime"

Spunky · 06-19-2008, 08:52 PM

Stay out of North America to begin with.most of the spanish that come here flog crack and contribute to the problem

GetSCORECash · 06-19-2008, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by D-man

this has nothing to do with Mexicans or Meican'ts or the border or anything else! - The one guy, gang raped and murdered 2 teenagers - FUCK HIM AND FRY HIM! Who cares if he's from Mexico or any place, If you rape and murder, you should die and if you do it in Texas well i guess your really fucked!

Correct! He gang raped and murdered two teenage girls. The guy has ben sitting in prison for 15 years.

qxm · 06-19-2008, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by D-man

this has nothing to do with Mexicans or Meican'ts or the border or anything else! - The one guy, gang raped and murdered 2 teenagers - FUCK HIM AND FRY HIM! Who cares if he's from Mexico or any place, If you rape and murder, you should die and if you do it in Texas well i guess your really fucked!

.... this pretty much says it all......... I endorse this post

Chauncy · 06-19-2008, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Voodoo

How about instead... We just allow legal U.S. citizens to shoot illegal immigrants on the streets? If they shoot someone who was not illegally here, then the shooters just gets the death penalty. OPEN SEASON!

great Idea or why don't we make illegally crossing the boarder a crime punishable by death our country our rules I bet that would stop the problem all together

spunkmister · 06-19-2008, 09:07 PM

I hope all the people saying "dont do the crime" arent the same people up in arms when some American is getting the death penalty in Thailand for having cocaine in his bag, or some guy getting jailed in Saudi Arabia cause he had illegal pills in his medicine kit...

wonder how many of you were outraged when that one guy in Singapore got caned years ago for defacing property...

always nice to see how some like to tell others how they should run their justice system yet take offense when others do the same to you.

I agree with the whole "cant do the time? dont do the crime" but you cant use that logic only when it suits you.

GetSCORECash · 06-19-2008, 09:20 PM

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Jose Medellin, 33, is set to die by injection on Aug. 5 for the 1993 murders of Jennifer Ertman, 14, and Elizabeth Peña, 16.

The girls were beaten, raped and killed after they happened upon a drunken midnight gang initiation rite in T.C. Jester Park in northwest Houston.

Medellin, who was born in Mexico but lived most of his life in Houston, had exhausted his appeals, but a legal struggle over international law had kept his case on appeal to the Supreme Court.

This guy is simply useing his Mexican citizenship as an excuse, as to why he shouldn't be executed.

CyberHustler · 06-19-2008, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by spunkmister

"cant do the time? dont do the crime"

Everything else you said is irrelevant...

Robatolla · 06-19-2008, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by D-man

this has nothing to do with Mexicans or Meican'ts or the border or anything else! - The one guy, gang raped and murdered 2 teenagers - FUCK HIM AND FRY HIM! Who cares if he's from Mexico or any place, If you rape and murder, you should die and if you do it in Texas well i guess your really fucked!

its amazing that anyone would want to protect a piece of shit like this!

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ChefJeff Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Arizona Posts: 1,499	And so what is the problem? Now that we have determined that people of many nationalities enter the US illegally. I don't think we should execute anyone. "Thou shalt not kill" I like the Norwegian justice and punishment system. Look into it.

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severe Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 331	right, because an american arrested in mexico would have all these right s afforded to them... besides shouldn't mexico's embassy provide an attorney and aid to its own citizen in cases like these. i guarantee if i got locked up in another country id be calling the US embassy, for sure.

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spunkmister Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,362	I hope all the people saying "dont do the crime" arent the same people up in arms when some American is getting the death penalty in Thailand for having cocaine in his bag, or some guy getting jailed in Saudi Arabia cause he had illegal pills in his medicine kit... wonder how many of you were outraged when that one guy in Singapore got caned years ago for defacing property... always nice to see how some like to tell others how they should run their justice system yet take offense when others do the same to you. I agree with the whole "cant do the time? dont do the crime" but you cant use that logic only when it suits you.