McCain is pretty much a known given and Obama is

[theking]

...is not. What are you going to go with...a guy with a known track record or a guy without a track record. Do you take a chance or not?

[fris]

you really want bush all over again?

[aico]

lol, Known track record...

Let himself get captured in a war, and burned down a ship... nice track record

[baddog]

Originally Posted by aico

lol, Known track record...

Let himself get captured in a war, and burned down a ship... nice track record

Burned down a ship. I hope you don't believe that.

[stickyfingerz]

Originally Posted by baddog

Burned down a ship. I hope you don't believe that.

Of course he does.

[aico]

Originally Posted by baddog

Burned down a ship. I hope you don't believe that.

Don't rock the boat

[theking]

Originally Posted by Fris

you really want bush all over again?

Senator McCain is not President Bush all over again...and has often gone against the President and other Republicans throughout his political career...though some are trying to sell him as a continuation of the Bush Presidency.

[Brad]

Why would you want a guy that needs his wife to use a computer. That just shows that he has no interest in knowing or understanding the world today. Also shows that he is useless when it comes to accessing information and relies too heavily on mainstream media to tell him what is going on in the world.

McCain is stuck in the past. No forward thinking. Why would you ever want that. I understand a fear of change. But the US population should fear stagnation much more.

[theking]

Originally Posted by aico

lol, Known track record...

Let himself get captured in a war, and burned down a ship... nice track record

Pigshit.

[NN_Matt]

oh politics are so tricky.

[nation-x]

I'm taking bets... McCain is toast...

[Voodoo]

It was setup that way on purpose. It's been planned from the beginning.

[IllTestYourGirls]

Originally Posted by Fris

you really want bush all over again?

Fris. McCain and Obama are the same.

Both will keep Bush's policies in place.

Keep our troops in Iraq
Look to expand the "war on terror"
Threating Iran
Obama has said he will "go into Pakistan" to "get Osama" I am sure we will be warmly welcomed.
Keeping the patriot act (no matter how much its changed its still a shitty bill)

and so on...

There is no real choice this election cycle.. just like every other one.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by theking

...is not. What are you going to go with...a guy with a known track record or a guy without a track record. Do you take a chance or not?

Honestly McCain has totally trashed his track record the past few years. McCain has jumped shit on just about everything he believed in before just to get the Republican nomination

[directfiesta]

"On January 14, 1969, the USS Enterprise, steaming 75 miles southwest of Pearl Harbor, suffered a major fire. In that episode, similar unstable 1000-pound bombs detonated, killing 27 sailors and injuring more than 100. At the time of the Enterprise disaster, the Commander-in- Chief of US Pacific Forces was Adm. John S. McCain, Jr.,Sen. McCain?s father. At the time of the Forrestal disaster, Admiral McCain was Commander-in-Chief of US Naval Forces Europe (CINCUSNAVEUR) and was busy covering up the details of the deadly and pre-meditated Israeli attack on the NSA spy ship, the USS Liberty, on June 8, 1967. The fact that both McCains were involved in two incidents just weeks apart that resulted in a total death count of 168 on the Forrestal and the Liberty, with an additional injury count of 234 on both ships (with a number of them later dying from their wounds) with an accompanying classified paper trail inside the Pentagon, may be all that was needed to hold a Sword of Damocles over the head of the ?family honor?-oriented (McCain?s persona is supported by his book about his father and grandfather, both Navy admirals, titled ?Faith of My Fathers?) and the ?straight talking? McCain."

Now, chose between a given ( senile flip-flopper warmonger ) or an unknown ( eloquent well intentioned ) ... hard choice ...

I personally hope that McSame gets in, so that the republicans have to manage the mess created, instead of shovelling it to a democrat ...

[Brujah]

Vote McBama!

[Kudles]

Yeah lets just keep having a war thats not needed. Great idea!

[Tom_PM]

McCain is a perfect candidate. For the year 2000. It's known to be a pretty widely held opinion.

I remember watching him on C-Span railing against government funding of "clean coal" experiments. This was during his maverick phase, and he was doing a nice job talking to, (but not ultimately convincing), his whacky party to cut this funding because it never had a snowballs chance in hell of actually producing clean burning coal. He used to always bitch about everyone jamming their pet funding projects into other completely unrelated bills and earned the label "maverick" for it.

But coal has gotten worse in the past 8 years, not better. When they were sued in west virginia for violating the clean water act, the then-republican controlled government decided to not fight it. Instead they *changed the law itself* to make it acceptable to dump their waste, including contaminated waste so that mountain top mining operations could continue! Mountain top mining is where they blast and strip the entire top of mountains, remove the coal, then dump the waste down the mountain side, filling in valleys. This was causing water to become contaminated to the point where residents were replacing their home filtration filters once every few days, instead of once every 6 months like normal people. They were getting sick. So they sued based on the clean water act being violated in plain sight. And the dickheads changed the laws, turning back the clock once again, and said FUCK YOU to the dying citizens in support of Big Coal.

McCain's in support of the coal companies again, he wants to drill for oil again, he's all about funding all this backwards bullshit. Gosh what happened? He's against his past self on so many issues, he's anti-straight talk, anti-maverick now. He's fall-in-line McCain now and he's stuck there. It's almost as if his entire party is beholden to some large energy concerns. But that couldn't be. That'd be nuts.

[J. Falcon]

Originally Posted by baddog

Burned down a ship. I hope you don't believe that.

Why do you support McCain baddog? I mean, come on, he's old enough to be your brother.

[Violetta]

Originally Posted by J. Falcon

Why do you support McCain baddog? I mean, come on, he's old enough to be your brother.

[czarina]

people who wouldnt vote for Obama, will vote against McCain, so Obama will get their vote. We simply dont want another Bush all over again.

[Axeman]

At best Obama will bring down the number of troops in Iraq but I guarantee he won't be out in two years. And the reality is a good number of those troops withdrawn will have to be relocated to Afghanistan where things are fading fast. That mentions nothing about his plans for Pakistan and what to do with Iran if things start to deteriorate more.

[spacedog]

As if there's really going to be an election this November.. You think Cheney & Bush will give up their power so easily after all the preparation and planning they put into giving themselves absolute power...

[BradM]

Originally Posted by spacedog

As if there's really going to be an election this November.. You think Cheney & Bush will give up their power so easily after all the preparation and planning they put into giving themselves absolute power...

Exactly. A black guy was just a nice way to really stick a cock in our faces while giving us more of the regime.

[TheSenator]

Originally Posted by PR_Tom

McCain is a perfect candidate. For the year 2000. It's known to be a pretty widely held opinion.

I remember watching him on C-Span railing against government funding of "clean coal" experiments. This was during his maverick phase, and he was doing a nice job talking to, (but not ultimately convincing), his whacky party to cut this funding because it never had a snowballs chance in hell of actually producing clean burning coal. He used to always bitch about everyone jamming their pet funding projects into other completely unrelated bills and earned the label "maverick" for it.

But coal has gotten worse in the past 8 years, not better. When they were sued in west virginia for violating the clean water act, the then-republican controlled government decided to not fight it. Instead they *changed the law itself* to make it acceptable to dump their waste, including contaminated waste so that mountain top mining operations could continue! Mountain top mining is where they blast and strip the entire top of mountains, remove the coal, then dump the waste down the mountain side, filling in valleys. This was causing water to become contaminated to the point where residents were replacing their home filtration filters once every few days, instead of once every 6 months like normal people. They were getting sick. So they sued based on the clean water act being violated in plain sight. And the dickheads changed the laws, turning back the clock once again, and said FUCK YOU to the dying citizens in support of Big Coal.

McCain's in support of the coal companies again, he wants to drill for oil again, he's all about funding all this backwards bullshit. Gosh what happened? He's against his past self on so many issues, he's anti-straight talk, anti-maverick now. He's fall-in-line McCain now and he's stuck there. It's almost as if his entire party is beholden to some large energy concerns. But that couldn't be. That'd be nuts.

Its crazy that Republicans can't see how McCain is against himself on so many issues..... I call "PANDERING"...



Baddog why won't you consider voting for Obama? He comes from a working class family and is a product of the American system.

[SoloGirlsContent]

Originally Posted by baddog

Burned down a ship. I hope you don't believe that.

why shouldn't we believe it... you believe all the negative shit about Obama..but everything with Mcsame is all clean.. c'mon man, I know you're old, but you ain't that fucking old are u

[theking]

Originally Posted by crockett

Honestly McCain has totally trashed his track record the past few years. McCain has jumped shit on just about everything he believed in before just to get the Republican nomination

All politicians say or do whatever they think will get them elected...once elected how many even make an effort to fullfill even 10% of what they said they would do when they were elected. In my opinion not a single President in my life time has done it...and I don't expect anything different from McCain or Obama. In particular Obama as he has promised what would basically be a utopia if he is elected...pie in the sky speeches...since a President does not have the power to do well over 90% of what he says he will do.

[SoloGirlsContent]

Originally Posted by crockett

Honestly McCain has totally trashed his track record the past few years. McCain has jumped shit on just about everything he believed in before just to get the Republican nomination

bingo.. if McBush is a Maverick, then I'm screwing Carmen Electra tonight

[Holly]

Originally Posted by directfiesta

I personally hope that McSame gets in, so that the republicans have to manage the mess created, instead of shovelling it to a democrat ...

I REALLY hope he chooses Crist as his running mate.

And if they managed to get elected, I can't even fathom the fun we'd have with the GOP. I'm already laughing, just thinking about the stories and people who would come crawling out of the woodwork. It would be like a 4 year gay pride parade.

[J. Falcon]

Originally Posted by simonsyinister

bingo.. if McBush is a Maverick, then I'm screwing Carmen Electra tonight

[theking]

Originally Posted by simonsyinister

why shouldn't we believe it... you believe all the negative shit about Obama..but everything with Mcsame is all clean.. c'mon man, I know you're old, but you ain't that fucking old are u

You shouldn't believe it because an investigation proved that it is not true. The investigation determined exactly what happened and why it happened. McCain and his aircraft had nothing to do with the accident.

[SoloGirlsContent]

Originally Posted by Adult Lounge - Brad

Why would you want a guy that needs his wife to use a computer. That just shows that he has no interest in knowing or understanding the world today. Also shows that he is useless when it comes to accessing information and relies too heavily on mainstream media to tell him what is going on in the world.

McCain is stuck in the past. No forward thinking. Why would you ever want that. I understand a fear of change. But the US population should fear stagnation much more.

great comment

[BlackCrayon]

Hitler has a known track record too. Doesn't mean people should vote for him.

[Brujah]

Originally Posted by simonsyinister

why shouldn't we believe it... you believe all the negative shit about Obama..but everything with Mcsame is all clean.. c'mon man, I know you're old, but you ain't that fucking old are u

He's almost always choosing the republican side when he comments, but he swears he's a registered Democrat and has been since the 70s.

[theking]

Originally Posted by Brujah

He's almost always choosing the republican side when he comments, but he swears he's a registered Democrat and has been since the 70s.

He can speak for himself...but I suspect that he is a moderate Democrat which basically means one can swing both ways...just as a moderate Republican does and which McCain is a moderate Republican.

[SoloGirlsContent]

Originally Posted by theking

You shouldn't believe it because an investigation proved that it is not true. The investigation determined exactly what happened and why it happened. McCain and his aircraft had nothing to do with the accident.

so fucking what..You know what I think? I think the investigation is BULLSHIT.. how about that Mcbush Lover.. why don't you and Baddog and stinkyfingers go and suck on his wrinkled dick.

OBAMA 08

[fsudirectory]

Originally Posted by theking

Senator McCain is not President Bush all over again...and has often gone against the President and other Republicans throughout his political career...though some are trying to sell him as a continuation of the Bush Presidency.

What all of 5% of the time if that? I believe that was the number thrown out when they did a comparison of his voting records

[Zango]

Obama is just shuckin' and jivin' for the man. He answers to a white man, I would bet it all on that.

[theking]

Originally Posted by simonsyinister

so fucking what..You know what I think? I think the investigation is BULLSHIT.. how about that Mcbush Lover.. why don't you and Baddog and stinkyfingers go and suck on his wrinkled dick.

OBAMA 08

FYI...for your information I have never been a fan of President Bush...I have never voted Republican. In addition I am not a fan of Senator McCain but niether am I a fan of Obama...got it...sport.

[SoloGirlsContent]

Originally Posted by Brujah

He's almost always choosing the republican side when he comments, but he swears he's a registered Democrat and has been since the 70s.

Oh that explains it, he's a WEST VIRGINIA DEMOCRAT, the type of dumb fucks that don't even know what Democrat stands for, they just like the sound of it

[theking]

Originally Posted by fsudirectory

What all of 5% of the time if that? I believe that was the number thrown out when they did a comparison of his voting records

I am not aware of any 5% thrown out by anyone...but the fact is Senator McCain is a moderate Republican and always has been and is recognized as such by conservative Republicans.

[TurboAngel]

His wife is hot.

[Brujah]

Originally Posted by theking

He can speak for himself...but I suspect that he is a moderate Democrat which basically means one can swing both ways...just as a moderate Republican does and which McCain is a moderate Republican.

Or maybe he just likes to troll. If you read his comments, he actually never really says anything very specific to anyone. Mostly vague disagreements that say nothing.

[Brujah]

Originally Posted by simonsyinister

Oh that explains it, he's a WEST VIRGINIA DEMOCRAT, the type of dumb fucks that don't even know what Democrat stands for, they just like the sound of it

That's an interesting phenomenon on GFY at least. Quite a few supposed "Democrats" or maybe I should say .. "not a Republican" .. that seem to always support the Republican side of the equation with their comments. Democrat in name, Republican in stance. Maybe the beginnings of a new party? Confused Republicans. They just haven't realized they are yet?

[theking]

Originally Posted by Brujah

Or maybe he just likes to troll. If you read his comments, he actually never really says anything very specific to anyone. Mostly vague disagreements that say nothing.

Well it is difficult not to see his comments since he posts in many different threads if not most threads...no matter the subject.

[theking]

Originally Posted by Brujah

That's an interesting phenomenon on GFY at least. Quite a few supposed "Democrats" or maybe I should say .. "not a Republican" .. that seem to always support the Republican side of the equation with their comments. Democrat in name, Republican in stance. Maybe the beginnings of a new party? Confused Republicans. They just haven't realized they are yet?

Moderate Democrats are not confused...they just are not ultra liberal Democrats. Moderates in both parties are the majority...ultral liberals and ultra conservatives are in the minority.

[DaLord]

Yea vote for someone older than Jesus... that's really clever.


Mike

[Brujah]

Originally Posted by theking

Moderate Democrats are not confused...they just are not ultra liberal Democrats. Moderates in both parties are the majority...ultral liberals and ultra conservatives are in the minority.

Why wouldn't they choose to be Moderate Republicans if most of their views mirror the Republican candidates? Is there one major Democratic issue that prevents them from going with the party that reflects more of their beliefs in what government should be?

[kane]

Originally Posted by Brujah

Why wouldn't they choose to be Moderate Republicans if most of their views mirror the Republican candidates? Is there one major Democratic issue that prevents them from going with the party that reflects more of their beliefs in what government should be?

Primarily it ends up being morality issues. Moderate democrats and republicans are often very much alike when it comes to issues of government spending, taxes and things of that nature. Where they tend to differ is in areas like abortion and gay marriage.

[papill0n]

take your political spewtum and fuck right off with it you geriatric old brain washed fool