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ADL Colin · 06-09-2008, 04:36 AM

fucking farmers making record profits.

TAX THE FARMERS!

F-U-Jimmy · 06-09-2008, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ADL Colin

fucking farmers making record profits.

TAX THE FARMERS!

A lot of this has to do with transport costs going up and the lack of food crops due to government incentives to grow ethanol crops

Mutt · 06-09-2008, 08:10 AM

i'd rather be gouged by farmers than oil companies and fucking Arabs - farmers work, Arabs do nothing but cause shit and get away with it because of dumb luck sitting on top of oil.

i can choose to grow some of my own food or shop around for it from small farmers markets.

thunder99 · 06-09-2008, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ADL Colin

fucking farmers making record profits.

TAX THE FARMERS!

Farmers incomes have actually been falling in the last couple of years. Maybe the middle man is making more, but the farmer certainly isn't

geedub · 06-09-2008, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ADL Colin

fucking farmers making record profits.

TAX THE FARMERS!

you are a dick.

ADL Colin · 06-09-2008, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by thunder99

Farmers incomes have actually been falling in the last couple of years. Maybe the middle man is making more, but the farmer certainly isn't

What's your source? I'd like to see the opposite side of the story.

"American farmers are enjoying record incomes"
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/24/wa...24farm.html?hp

Also, the USDA gives this:
http://www.ers.usda.gov/Features/FarmIncome/
"In 2008, average farm household income is projected to be $89,434, up 6.3 percent from 2007 and 19.2 percent above the 5-year average of 2002-06. Average off-farm income of $75,805 in 2008, up 4.6 percent from 2007, accounts for nearly 85 percent of the average farm operator household's income."

TyroneGoldberg · 06-09-2008, 08:46 AM

I'm sure all their equipment runs on diesel and last time I checked diesel was around 5 bucks a gallon. when do you believe what's written in the newspaper. if they're making some profit more power to them. they sure deserve it

sniperwolf · 06-09-2008, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by F-U-Jimmy

A lot of this has to do with transport costs going up and the lack of food crops due to government incentives to grow ethanol crops

I have to agree!

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Originally Posted by thunder99

Farmers incomes have actually been falling in the last couple of years. Maybe the middle man is making more, but the farmer certainly isn't

That's fact!

ADL Colin · 06-09-2008, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by geedub

you are a dick.

A. You think I'm a dick because you didn't get my joke and think that oil companies should be taxed for "windfall profits"?

B. You think I'm a dick because you did get my joke but you are "anti-farming community"?

C. This is your part-time job. You own a farm in Nebraska and are frightened that your ethanol subsidies might disappear

D. You are just fucking with me

E. None of the above

ADL Colin · 06-09-2008, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by TyroneGoldberg

I'm sure all their equipment runs on diesel and last time I checked diesel was around 5 bucks a gallon. when do you believe what's written in the newspaper. if they're making some profit more power to them. they sure deserve it

Yeah, but ...

http://futures.tradingcharts.com/chart/CN/M
http://futures.tradingcharts.com/chart/CW/M
http://futures.tradingcharts.com/chart/SB/M

ADL Colin · 06-09-2008, 08:52 AM

"The nation's farmers, who raise everything from cows to cucumbers, saw their average household income climb about 7 percent last year to more than $83,000. But in grain-rich states, the results were dramatically higher. In Minnesota alone, the median income for crop farmers soared 80 percent to $95,000."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080527/...lation_winners

Hell, these days corn is energy for autos too.

nosey · 06-09-2008, 08:56 AM

very expensive indeed

Sosa · 06-09-2008, 09:37 AM

farmers work hard as fuck. They deserve it

Mutt · 06-09-2008, 09:40 AM

how many family type farms are there left anyway? most i bet are owned by big corporations.

ADL Colin · 06-09-2008, 09:58 AM

Just across the wire (July 9) ... SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- Corn futures rose on Monday to a record high for a third consecutive session

Man, popcorn is going to be more than $4.00/gallon soon!

ADL Colin · 06-09-2008, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

how many family type farms are there left anyway? most i bet are owned by big corporations.

Still mostly family. I looked it up earlier today wondering the same thing

http://www.ers.usda.gov/publications/EIB12/EIB12c.pdf?

Mr Pheer · 06-09-2008, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ADL Colin

What's your source? I'd like to see the opposite side of the story.

"American farmers are enjoying record incomes"
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/24/wa...24farm.html?hp

Also, the USDA gives this:
http://www.ers.usda.gov/Features/FarmIncome/
"In 2008, average farm household income is projected to be $89,434, up 6.3 percent from 2007 and 19.2 percent above the 5-year average of 2002-06. Average off-farm income of $75,805 in 2008, up 4.6 percent from 2007, accounts for nearly 85 percent of the average farm operator household's income."

thats great because we all know it doesnt cost a single dime to run a farm

ADL Colin · 06-09-2008, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

thats great because we all know it doesnt cost a single dime to run a farm

Net cash income is up about 10%

Just like the oil companies. Even though they have higher expenses many agricultural products are selling at 3 to 4 times what they were just a few years ago. An increase that has way more than overcompensated for the higher cost of doing business.

thunder99 · 06-09-2008, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ADL Colin

What's your source? I'd like to see the opposite side of the story.

"American farmers are enjoying record incomes"
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/24/wa...24farm.html?hp

Also, the USDA gives this:
http://www.ers.usda.gov/Features/FarmIncome/
"In 2008, average farm household income is projected to be $89,434, up 6.3 percent from 2007 and 19.2 percent above the 5-year average of 2002-06. Average off-farm income of $75,805 in 2008, up 4.6 percent from 2007, accounts for nearly 85 percent of the average farm operator household's income."

I don't know for sure what the situation in the US is like, but I do know that a European farmer was getting more for a litre of milk 10 years than he is today. The fact the 85% of income for US farmers, comes from off-farm activities would suggest that US farmers have also had to look for alternatives to make a living.

Accusing them of profiteering from the global rise in food prices is a bit unfair. By far the largest cut of the milk that you drink and the fruit and veg that you eat goes to the supermarkets.

Another important point is, farming can be hit and miss. I've seen farmers have a bumper year one year only to see every bit of that profit wiped out the following year. Most industries can plan their projected incomes for a couple of years in advance, but farmers dont have that luxury, bad weather, disease, sickness can totally knock them out for a couple of years.

thunder99 · 06-09-2008, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ADL Colin

Net cash income is up about 10%

Just like the oil companies. Even though they have higher expenses many agricultural products are selling at 3 to 4 times what they were just a few years ago. An increase that has way more than overcompensated for the higher cost of doing business.

And farmers aren't selling 3 to 4 times what they were selling before, that's part of the problem. The food volumes on the world market haven't increased that much, but as countries like India and China become wealthier they are buying more food, so there's less to go around.

But an acre of land can still only produce the same amount of crops that it produced 10 years ago.

tranza · 06-09-2008, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by sniperwolf

I have to agree!

That's fact!

Yeah I agree!

ADL Colin · 06-09-2008, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by thunder99

I don't know for sure what the situation in the US is like, but I do know that a European farmer was getting more for a litre of milk 10 years than he is today.

The US government sets a minimum price that must be paid to farmers for milk. Weird, huh?

TheSenator · 06-09-2008, 12:44 PM

I thought the farms are corporate owned nowadays.

ADL Colin · 06-09-2008, 01:15 PM

It's pretty obvious that the Bilderberg meeting is about fixing world food prices. No doubt the friends of those in high places are making immense profits from higher corn, wheat and
rice. Speaking of Rice, blame Bush! As soon as Bush is outta office your grocery bill will come crashing down.

thunder99 · 06-09-2008, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ADL Colin

The US government sets a minimum price that must be paid to farmers for milk. Weird, huh?

Didnt know that, any idea how much it is?

DateDoc · 06-09-2008, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ADL Colin

Just across the wire (July 9) ... SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- Corn futures rose on Monday to a record high for a third consecutive session

Man, popcorn is going to be more than $4.00/gallon soon!

ADL Colin · 06-09-2008, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by thunder99

Didnt know that, any idea how much it is?

I don't have a clue. I think it is a depression era law that is still on the books and still in use.

undersoul · 06-09-2008, 02:19 PM

dude everything has gone through the roof. just the way it is these days. people have to adjust.

payd2purv · 06-09-2008, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ADL Colin

fucking farmers making record profits.

TAX THE FARMERS!

You are joking right?

notoldschool · 06-09-2008, 02:34 PM

I dont really care how much profit a farmer makes but I have noticed that groceries are almost double what they cost not too long ago.

ADL Colin · 06-09-2008, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by payd2purv

You are joking right?

...... yes.

06-09-2008, 04:36 AM	#1
ADL Colin Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Tube Titans, USA Posts: 11,929	Record high food prices fucking farmers making record profits. TAX THE FARMERS! __________________ Adult Date Link - $50 PPS starting NOW! -- good and JUICY! skype = "adultdatelink"

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Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	i'd rather be gouged by farmers than oil companies and fucking Arabs - farmers work, Arabs do nothing but cause shit and get away with it because of dumb luck sitting on top of oil. i can choose to grow some of my own food or shop around for it from small farmers markets. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

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ADL Colin Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Tube Titans, USA Posts: 11,929	"The nation's farmers, who raise everything from cows to cucumbers, saw their average household income climb about 7 percent last year to more than $83,000. But in grain-rich states, the results were dramatically higher. In Minnesota alone, the median income for crop farmers soared 80 percent to $95,000." http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080527/...lation_winners Hell, these days corn is energy for autos too. __________________ Adult Date Link - $50 PPS starting NOW! -- good and JUICY! skype = "adultdatelink"

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Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	how many family type farms are there left anyway? most i bet are owned by big corporations. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

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TyroneGoldberg Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,081	I'm sure all their equipment runs on diesel and last time I checked diesel was around 5 bucks a gallon. when do you believe what's written in the newspaper. if they're making some profit more power to them. they sure deserve it

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Sosa In Tushy Land Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 40,149	farmers work hard as fuck. They deserve it

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ADL Colin Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Tube Titans, USA Posts: 11,929	Just across the wire (July 9) ... SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- Corn futures rose on Monday to a record high for a third consecutive session Man, popcorn is going to be more than $4.00/gallon soon! __________________ Adult Date Link - $50 PPS starting NOW! -- good and JUICY! skype = "adultdatelink"

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06-09-2008, 01:15 PM	#24
ADL Colin Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Tube Titans, USA Posts: 11,929	It's pretty obvious that the Bilderberg meeting is about fixing world food prices. No doubt the friends of those in high places are making immense profits from higher corn, wheat and rice. Speaking of Rice, blame Bush! As soon as Bush is outta office your grocery bill will come crashing down. __________________ Adult Date Link - $50 PPS starting NOW! -- good and JUICY! skype = "adultdatelink"

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undersoul Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: underground Posts: 1,212	dude everything has gone through the roof. just the way it is these days. people have to adjust. __________________ RIP TD

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notoldschool Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 5,687	I dont really care how much profit a farmer makes but I have noticed that groceries are almost double what they cost not too long ago. __________________ No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture. -- Learned Hand http://www.bjpenn.com