70 arrested in Australia in pornography sting

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CNN - SYDNEY, Australia (AP) -- Australian police have arrested 70 people and removed four child victims from homes in a six-month nationwide investigation of a global child pornography network.

Police said 20 other people have been summoned to appear in court. The 90 face charges of accessing child abuse images on the Internet.

Australian Federal Police Commissioner Mick Keelty said Thursday the investigation was conducted simultaneously by law enforcement authorities in 170 countries. Further arrests are expected.

The maximum penalty for possessing child pornography is 10 years imprisonment.

[Rochard]

Good for them. I hope the prisons there have the same "ass rape" policies we seem to have here in the US.

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Originally Posted by Rochard

Good for them. I hope the prisons there have the same "ass rape" policies we seem to have here in the US.

They are the same.

[Pics Traffic]

they didn't get arrested for porn, they got arrested for CP. I hope they all get assraped in prison.

[Socks]

[Sausage]

According to the local news the children ranged from babies to 18 year olds.

18 yr olds ?? wtf ?

[CuriousToyBoy]

Originally Posted by pimpwork

The maximum penalty for possessing child pornography is 10 years imprisonment.

And this is fucking wrong and where this country has it wrong.

10 years MAXIMUM (and rarely does anyone ever get the max, anywhere) is fucked up.

Should be 10 years MINIMUM and life without any chance of parole.

That being short of the death penalty of 10 minutes in a locked room with me.

Makes my fucking skin crawl. I despise rock spiders with every ounce of my being.

[bringer]

Originally Posted by Sausage

According to the local news the children ranged from babies to 18 year olds.

18 yr olds ?? wtf ?

18 NOW. im sure they have evidence of abuse from when they were underage

[libertygone]

Originally Posted by Socks

[VeriSexy]

fuckers.. but very good news, they got busted

[commonsense]

Child pornography and pornography are not the same thing. Good job lumping them together

[fluffygrrl]

Let's just hope the aussies aren't as ridiculously aside-the-law as the texans.

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Originally Posted by commonsense

Child pornography and pornography are not the same thing. Good job lumping them together

I am simply quoting straight from CNN

[papill0n]

Originally Posted by CuriousToyBoy

And this is fucking wrong and where this country has it wrong.

10 years MAXIMUM (and rarely does anyone ever get the max, anywhere) is fucked up.

Should be 10 years MINIMUM and life without any chance of parole.

That being short of the death penalty of 10 minutes in a locked room with me.

Makes my fucking skin crawl. I despise rock spiders with every ounce of my being.

Well said CBT. It is fucking disgusting. 4 of these fuckers even had blue cards. I hope to see authorities in other countries deal with these sick pricks asap.

[born4porn]

one of those arrested was a Federal cop ... he will get a double dose in jail!!!

[papill0n]

Originally Posted by born4porn

one of those arrested was a Federal cop ... he will get a double dose in jail!!!

That guy is as good as dead.

[V_RocKs]

10 years per image.

[Czech]

Originally Posted by born4porn

one of those arrested was a Federal cop ... he will get a double dose in jail!!!

He wont survive long in prison...

[Libertine]

Originally Posted by CuriousToyBoy

And this is fucking wrong and where this country has it wrong.

10 years MAXIMUM (and rarely does anyone ever get the max, anywhere) is fucked up.

Should be 10 years MINIMUM and life without any chance of parole.

That being short of the death penalty of 10 minutes in a locked room with me.

Makes my fucking skin crawl. I despise rock spiders with every ounce of my being.

Keep in mind that "child pornography" also covers the nude self-pictures that quite a few teen girls take. You know, the ones that often get posted on message boards. The ones that you may have seen, and which have thus been cached on your computer, without you ever realizing that the girls were in fact under 18.

[Iron Fist]

Originally Posted by RobMax

He wont survive long in prison...

He'll be in PC the entire time... until one of the guards leaks out why hes in PC... then it'll get interesting!

[CuriousToyBoy]

Originally Posted by Libertine

Keep in mind that "child pornography" also covers the nude self-pictures that quite a few teen girls take. You know, the ones that often get posted on message boards. The ones that you may have seen, and which have thus been cached on your computer, without you ever realizing that the girls were in fact under 18.

Moron, that is NOT what they are referring to in the story. They are talking sex acts with kids.

And surprisingly, I do in fact know the difference between that and what you so eloquently phrase, which is NOT what these fucking scum were arrested for.

Twat.

[CuriousToyBoy]

And I am not going to apologize to you for going off at you on some minro OBVIOUS technicality because what you said was NOT what those fucking pigs were arrested for and for mine those fucking animals that sexually assault children deserve every single fucking ounce of my hatred and no matter ANY muddying of any waters by useless remarks.

4c

[StaceyJo]

Originally Posted by born4porn

one of those arrested was a Federal cop ... he will get a double dose in jail!!!

That served him right... lifetime prisonment will be more humane. grrrr!

[Penny24Seven]

Originally Posted by Libertine

Keep in mind that "child pornography" also covers the nude self-pictures that quite a few teen girls take. You know, the ones that often get posted on message boards. The ones that you may have seen, and which have thus been cached on your computer, without you ever realizing that the girls were in fact under 18.

this coming from the guy with a sig that looks like .... well you can see it

[Libertine]

Originally Posted by CuriousToyBoy

Moron, that is NOT what they are referring to in the story. They are talking sex acts with kids.

And surprisingly, I do in fact know the difference between that and what you so eloquently phrase, which is NOT what these fucking scum were arrested for.

Twat.

Take your meds, you fucking idiot.

First off, do you realize that for the police and media, anyone will be referred to as a kid up to the second before they turn 18? "Sex acts with kids" can refer to a 50 year old raping his 2 year old stepdaughter, or a 19 year old having sex with his 17 year old girlfriend.

Obviously, the two are rather different. In the press release, though, they will both be referred to as "sex acts with children".

That's why it's so fucking stupid to demand high minimum sentences without knowing the details. With a 10 year minimum sentence, the people who download a homemade video of a 17 year old girl giving head to her 18 year old boyfriend without even knowing the girl is 3 months younger than the law allows will also get that minimum sentence.

Likewise, the person who stumbles upon some of the really bad stuff, thinks "what the hell?!", and clicks it in disbelief - in the same way that people might look at trainwrecks, car wrecks, 2girls1cup, etc.

Likewise, the person who downloads all files labeled "teen porn" or whatever on emule or limewire or whatever it is they use these days, and finds out that, in fact, "teen" also covers "thirteen".

Those are not technicalities. None of the people I mentioned should spend 10 years in prison.

And guess what? There's a good chance that some of the examples I just gave will turn out to be the case for some of the people arrested in these raids.

To summarize: demanding specific punishments without knowing the specific details of each case is very fucking dumb.

Idiots just like you tend to wreck lives by screwing up the legal system with insanely broad laws that end up harming the wrong people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilson_v._State_of_Georgia

Check out this "child abuser" that got a mandatory minimum sentence of 10 years.

Now, kindly go fuck yourself

[Libertine]

Originally Posted by Brian837

this coming from the guy with a sig that looks like .... well you can see it

A sig that looks like a fully dressed cartoon?

Yeah, I can see your problem there, dickhead.

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Originally Posted by Libertine

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilson_v._State_of_Georgia

Check out this "child abuser" that got a mandatory minimum sentence of 10 years.

Now, kindly go fuck yourself

First of all I started this thread because of the Australian CP arrests for some reason it has be turned around to be "Child abuse" and a case that was held in Georgia USA, there is no comparison...

[Libertine]

Originally Posted by pimpwork

First of all I started this thread because of the Australian CP arrests for some reason it has be turned around to be "Child abuse" and a case that was held in Georgia USA, there is no comparison...

You fail to see the link between someone getting a ridiculous 10 year sentence because that's the mandatory minimum, a minimum which was most likely inspired by the general outrage that the very words "sex" and "children" cause when put together, and someone crying out for a mandatory minimum of 10 years regarding a crime, outraged by the fact that there are both children and sex involved?

Child abusers, child rapists, cp producers, cp traders, etc. should all be thrown in prison for the rest of their lives. I think we can all agree on that.

The 18 year old guy who downloads a self-shot picture of a naked 17 year old girl while believing the girl is over 18 should probably not be sent to prison at all. I think most of us will agree on that, too.

In between those two extremes, there are many different cases. The cases which might technically be said to involve "child pornography" but which in reality lay closer to the second example than to the first are a very good reason why minimum sentences are a bad idea, and why being outraged without knowing the actual details is less than productive.

Just recently, I read about a girl who got charged with production of child pornography. She had taken pictures of herself, and had posted those online - while being under 18. That example alone should make it rather clear why it's pretty much a smart idea to get to know the details of a case before even thinking about appropriate sentencing.

[Czech]

I hope they get what they deserve

[Adultnet]

good they got this fuckers

[GetSCORECash]

Originally Posted by MOCKBA

I hope they all get assraped in prison.

i second that!

Atleast the Aussies are doing something about it. What is the FBI doing here in the states?

[SykkBoy]

Originally Posted by SCORE-Cash

i second that!

Atleast the Aussies are doing something about it. What is the FBI doing here in the states?

um arrests don't always mean convictions...
the FBI has had their share of raids too, but have pretty much lacked convictions on a large scale

[Jesmine22]

So porn is not allowed in Auz ? hmmmmmmmm how odd

[Czech]

Originally Posted by Jesmine22

So porn is not allowed in Auz ? hmmmmmmmm how odd

did you read the whole thread? it's all about CP

[tranza]

Originally Posted by Jesmine22

So porn is not allowed in Auz ? hmmmmmmmm how odd

You didn't even read what he posted, huh?

[Phoenix]

helicopter....200kms out over the ocean..push them out

problem solved

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Originally Posted by Phoenix

helicopter....200kms out over the ocean..push them out

problem solved

Yep that would do the trick

[eightmotives]

May the anal rape force be with them!

[cleopatra0628]

Originally Posted by Socks

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Sometimes these news stories have a happy ending, here is one of them.

Charged teacher commits suicide.

A Queensland teacher charged as part of a major pedophile bust has committed suicide, while another is in hospital after a failed attempt to take his life.

More than 90 men across Australia have been arrested and hundreds more remain under suspicion as part of the six-month Operation Centurion.

One of the men arrested, a 59-year-old Gold Coast teacher, has committed suicide after being charged over the bust, News Ltd reported.

A second Queensland teacher, 48, is recovering in hospital after a failed suicide attempt, News Ltd said.

About 1,500 people or individual computers in Australia have been identified in the investigation, which is part of a wider Interpol investigation involving 170 countries.

A policeman, four Queensland teachers and a West Australian sports administrator were among those arrested or summonsed in Australia as a result of the six-month operation.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=575654

[CuriousToyBoy]

Originally Posted by Libertine

Take your meds, you fucking idiot.

First off, do you realize that for the police and media, anyone will be referred to as a kid up to the second before they turn 18? "Sex acts with kids" can refer to a 50 year old raping his 2 year old stepdaughter, or a 19 year old having sex with his 17 year old girlfriend.

Obviously, the two are rather different. In the press release, though, they will both be referred to as "sex acts with children".

That's why it's so fucking stupid to demand high minimum sentences without knowing the details. With a 10 year minimum sentence, the people who download a homemade video of a 17 year old girl giving head to her 18 year old boyfriend without even knowing the girl is 3 months younger than the law allows will also get that minimum sentence.

Likewise, the person who stumbles upon some of the really bad stuff, thinks "what the hell?!", and clicks it in disbelief - in the same way that people might look at trainwrecks, car wrecks, 2girls1cup, etc.

Likewise, the person who downloads all files labeled "teen porn" or whatever on emule or limewire or whatever it is they use these days, and finds out that, in fact, "teen" also covers "thirteen".

Those are not technicalities. None of the people I mentioned should spend 10 years in prison.

And guess what? There's a good chance that some of the examples I just gave will turn out to be the case for some of the people arrested in these raids.

To summarize: demanding specific punishments without knowing the specific details of each case is very fucking dumb.

Idiots just like you tend to wreck lives by screwing up the legal system with insanely broad laws that end up harming the wrong people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilson_v._State_of_Georgia

Check out this "child abuser" that got a mandatory minimum sentence of 10 years.

Now, kindly go fuck yourself

Sounds awfully like you are defending child rapists my friend.

I live in Australia, and the news stories here outside of that one article have been rather specific as to what these scum were doing.

People also do not top themselves either of they have not been doing anything wrong.

I will not apologize ever for being forthright on these issues.

I have 3 children.

And just as a standard you can be absolutely fucking certain that I would not give a flying fuck if you were fiddling them or if you just had "artistic" pictures of them, you would be a fucking dead man and I would happily do the time.

[Libertine]

Originally Posted by CuriousToyBoy

Sounds awfully like you are defending child rapists my friend.

Am I defending child rapists by saying child rapists and child pornographers should spend the rest of their lives in prison? Or am I defending them by pointing out that not everyone who at some time comes across a naked girl under the age of 18 is a pedophile, child rapist or child pornographer?

Your idea to institute mandatory minimum sentences is a bad idea not because those who rape children on a daily basis should not be locked up in a doorless cell, but because mandatory minimum sentences would also hit the ones who, for example, come across a naked 17 year old on a message board.

Judges and juries recognize the difference between a 50 year old raping a 6 year old and an 18 year old dating a 16 year old. Likewise, they recognize the difference between someone who has thousands of hardcore child pornography pictures on his hard drive, and someone who has thousands of amateur nudes on his hard drive, one of which happens to be of a 17 year old, while the rest all feature adults.

Mandatory minimum sentences make it impossible for sentencing to reflect these obvious differences.

Originally Posted by CuriousToyBoy

I live in Australia, and the news stories here outside of that one article have been rather specific as to what these scum were doing.

No, they are specific as to what *some* of them have *allegedly* been doing. False arrests can and do happen, and while some of the people arrested undoubtedly are scum of the worst sort, it is quite possible that others will turn out not to be pedophiles at all.

Originally Posted by CuriousToyBoy

People also do not top themselves either of they have not been doing anything wrong.

Most would not, but some might. Mainly because the worse the crime is, the more likely media and the public are to come to a conviction of their own, regardless of evidence.

It's a well-known fact that false accusations have ruined many a life.

Originally Posted by CuriousToyBoy

I will not apologize ever for being forthright on these issues.

I have 3 children.

And just as a standard you can be absolutely fucking certain that I would not give a flying fuck if you were fiddling them or if you just had "artistic" pictures of them, you would be a fucking dead man and I would happily do the time.

Many of the people involved in this would undoubtedly have died by your hand long before it ever became clear that absolutely nothing actually happened.

[CuriousToyBoy]

Whatever pal.

I respect your inalienable right to defend the scum of the Earth.

Now respect my right to hate them with every inch of my being.

2c

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