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06-05-2008, 12:37 PM

Wow... I guess you put the ball in their court, and they took it out of bounds. Best of luck with the upcoming proceedings.

Cyndalie · 06-05-2008, 12:37 PM

There's enough dance floor in this business to avoid stepping on toes.

Magnus · 06-05-2008, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

I had to google the names myself

I am having spaghetti and meatballs tonight.

LMAO.. send me some Imperial dammit.. I love that beer!

BusterBunny · 06-05-2008, 12:38 PM

note to self...scrap plans of opening quadruplexbiz

TheAmericanCannibal · 06-05-2008, 12:38 PM

Greg " The Village Clown" Piccionelli?

Good luck Claire....

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

See you tonight Alec-After the LAKER game!

Quentin · 06-05-2008, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by halfpint

If this goes to court and xxxclaire has no money what happens ?

I'm fairly certain any lawsuit would target the company behind xxxxbiztv, not Claire, and Claire's financial status is irrelevant. (Unless Claire is an owner/shareholder of xxxbiztv, that is)

Most situations like this don't get resolved until the legal threat comes via a written document sporting an actual attorney's letterhead. Once that written threat is received, such disputes often are resolved pretty quickly.... I wouldn't be too surprised if that turns out to be the case here.

Of course, it's always possible that the court would find that there's no merit to Xbiz's claim -- but given the similarity of the names/marks, and the fact that they operate in the same market sector, and more than a few in the industry have expressed confusion about whether Claire/xxxbiztv are associated with Xbiz, I think a judge would be inclined to let the action proceed.

TheSenator · 06-05-2008, 12:42 PM

I honestly though that XXXBizTV.com was XBiz. My thinking was that XBiz's magazine, which I recieve every month, was starting to do live streaming off events and shows related to adults.

It took me a couple of times to figure out the XXXBizTV.com was not at all associated with XBiz.

She should have she the named...oh well, she is gonna learn the hard way.

selena · 06-05-2008, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Dayum!!! It's a good thing that Claire has a large management team behind her, and the ex head of Sony Asia to back her up...

ADG

Varius · 06-05-2008, 12:46 PM

I still don't see how people confuse the two names... If Xbiz launched a TV site don't you think it would just be called XbizTV?

XXX = triple X an appropriate term in adult

It's like if there was xcash and xxxcash or something (actually there is triplexcash and xxxcash isn't there?) - it's not the same name.

Oh well, Americans are lawsuit-happy what can I say. I guess if XBiz actually feels XXXBizTV is hurting their business, they are doing what they have to. I just don't see that happening, XBiz is a HUGE brand and besides a few GFY clowns no one is confusing the two companies

John. · 06-05-2008, 12:48 PM

I think xbiz would have serious problems winning this in Court. Just because both parties work in the same area of business etc doesnt mean its a closed case, are we all not working in the "xxx" business or "xxx biz" or whatever else we wish to call it??

John. · 06-05-2008, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Varius

I still don't see how people confuse the two names... If Xbiz launched a TV site don't you think it would just be called XbizTV?

XXX = triple X an appropriate term in adult

It's like if there was xcash and xxxcash or something (actually there is triplexcash and xxxcash isn't there?) - it's not the same name.

Oh well, Americans are lawsuit-happy what can I say. I guess if XBiz actually feels XXXBizTV is hurting their business, they are doing what they have to. I just don't see that happening, XBiz is a HUGE brand and besides a few GFY clowns no one is confusing the two companies

Exactly correct...

MeganS · 06-05-2008, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by atom

as much as I can appreciate you wanting to protect your copyright there is nothing good that can come with making threats and then finally annoucing suit against someone on GFY.

Claire is pretty fucking annoying (in an LC kinda way) but this probably would've been best handled behind the scenes.

Usually i would agree with this .. but i have had 5 different people ask me if who the new girl Claire from Xbiz was. They also seem to think her webmaster cam show thing is involved with Xbiz.

XBiz is protecting their quality image and brand.

Megan

Robbie · 06-05-2008, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Varius

I still don't see how people confuse the two names...

Yeah, but business wise..under the circumstances she should have just handed that name over and started a new one. It wouldn't have hurt her one bit. But it would most definitely have helped her in the goodwill that she would have generated. If I were trying to have a company that worked events and Helmy asked something of me...I would bend over backwards to do it for him. Same for DMoney and Kevin. I would want all those guys on my side.

Vendzilla · 06-05-2008, 12:50 PM

I'm getting popcorn set up and watching this closely.

Socks · 06-05-2008, 12:50 PM

John. · 06-05-2008, 12:51 PM

Sure will make an interesting case I guess... X versus XXX

TheDoc · 06-05-2008, 12:52 PM

I think people got her handle on the board confused and not really the site directly. The relation of the two sparked confusion and not the site.

She doesn't appear to be trying to profit from the xbiz name or claim she is xbiz. The name, site design, colors and logo are different. The only possible complaint is the related business, however they are different and not within direct competition of each other.

At that, the site and what it is doing - is a prefect match for the name.

This is a far reach with piles and piles of brown noses for everyone.

Mohawk Steve · 06-05-2008, 12:52 PM

Does this mean Claire isn't invited to the Xbiz mixer tonight?

kmanrox · 06-05-2008, 12:53 PM

i remember when steve cohen was suing everyone who owned *sex.com

and either he was winning, or forcing them to concede.. i dont recall which.. but he was on a rampage

DateDoc · 06-05-2008, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by John.

Sure will make an interesting case I guess... X versus XXX

xpays already won that one against xxxpays. Evan put a link up to the case in one of Claire's other threads.

Odie · 06-05-2008, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mister E

drama aside, Odie is a gorgeous woman.

I'm just sayin....

Look at her...

ooo Elliot! you're makin' me blush! now...let's not hi-jack the thread..back to the drama~!

Socks · 06-05-2008, 12:55 PM

We don't know what Xbiz offered though. Claire has a reputation, be it good or bad on this forum and others I'm sure, and if she were to change her name she's losing something.

What was offered in return?

My feelings are they did offer her something lucrative, but it either it wasn't enough, or she thinks playing hardball with Xbiz is somehow a good idea.

If she really wants to hold on to the name forever, she has no clue about business whatsoever. Less than 0. This is an opportunity.

Now another question:

Is Xbiz reporting on this? :D

Varius · 06-05-2008, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Yeah, but business wise..under the circumstances she should have just handed that name over and started a new one. It wouldn't have hurt her one bit. But it would most definitely have helped her in the goodwill that she would have generated. If I were trying to have a company that worked events and Helmy asked something of me...I would bend over backwards to do it for him. Same for DMoney and Kevin. I would want all those guys on my side.

Hey Robbie, what's up btw ?

I agree, it's not a wise decision on her part to fight against a company like XBiz, who is someone you want to have a good relationship with. Not to mention I'd wager their resources are a lto larger than Claire's (or her company's in this case).

I'm just mroe shocked than anything else at how many people seem to be confused, I guess I give people more credit in regards to common sense than they deserve

I also don't think this is a threat to XBiz at all, but I guess they do see it as something they are addressing. I just think the whole thing is overblown.

TampaToker · 06-05-2008, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Socks

~Ray · 06-05-2008, 12:57 PM

maybe xbiz wants the new traffic generated by this startup and are hoping to bully xxxbiz into giving them the name and traffic. maybe that's why they waited until now

uno · 06-05-2008, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mister E

drama aside, Odie is a gorgeous woman.

I'm just sayin....

Look at her...

You see part of what I was saying on icq now?

OY · 06-05-2008, 12:58 PM

Interesting...

**

Odie · 06-05-2008, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Red Machine

10 pages....I say 9 and a half

nine and a half weeks?? that was a good movie!! lol

if you win, I'm buyin drinks at Internext!

how are you btw? haven't talked to you in a while!

Roald · 06-05-2008, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Socks

Is Xbiz reporting on this? :D

it will be in the XXXBiz Worldwide mag next month

quesadilla · 06-05-2008, 12:59 PM

watch out everyone you'll be labled haters for pointing out the obvious. tons of people busted her out for lying and all sorts of stuff and most didn't call her any names, but yet everyone who fought the titties and pussy was labeled haters. suck it morons. its blatant infringement. she started a media company. the idiocy amazes me some times here. words of advice, don't endorse peoples over having a couple drinks and a snog with them at shows. her game stunk from the beginning. now go off to cybernet show and make friends with her to come back and back her up once again.

quesadilla · 06-05-2008, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

Yeah, but business wise..under the circumstances she should have just handed that name over and started a new one. It wouldn't have hurt her one bit. But it would most definitely have helped her in the goodwill that she would have generated. If I were trying to have a company that worked events and Helmy asked something of me...I would bend over backwards to do it for him. Same for DMoney and Kevin. I would want all those guys on my side.

no. she is still a moron. instead of try to earn stripes she made em up. when her game got busted lots of horny wms who just chase online pussy with no hopes of getting any backed her up, well that and some people who drank with her and fell for her stories. she should go back to cams, at least she can make money doing it. no sight of the ex head of sony asia.

halfpint · 06-05-2008, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quentin

I'm fairly certain any lawsuit would target the company behind xxxxbiztv, not Claire, and Claire's financial status is irrelevant. (Unless Claire is an owner/shareholder of xxxbiztv, that is)

Most situations like this don't get resolved until the legal threat comes via a written document sporting an actual attorney's letterhead. Once that written threat is received, such disputes often are resolved pretty quickly.... I wouldn't be too surprised if that turns out to be the case here.

Of course, it's always possible that the court would find that there's no merit to Xbiz's claim -- but given the similarity of the names/marks, and the fact that they operate in the same market sector, and more than a few in the industry have expressed confusion about whether Claire/xxxbiztv are associated with Xbiz, I think a judge would be inclined to let the action proceed.

Thanks
So the same would apply if xxxbixtv have no money, who would end up paying the legal fees. I am asking this because I do not know how the US law deal with things like this and kinda find it strange why somebody would want it to go this far.

Phoenix · 06-05-2008, 01:03 PM

you should just hire her....and indeed start streaming live from events all over

JayDeeZee · 06-05-2008, 01:04 PM

You should change your name to a symbol

"the girl formerly known as xxxbizclair.tv"

Sly · 06-05-2008, 01:04 PM

I think D-Money said it first... hand over the domain and work out some type of "marketing" deal... i.e., work at the next XBiz event. That would work out for everyone I'm sure and it would benefit Claire greatly in the long run.

Robbie · 06-05-2008, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly

I think D-Money said it first... hand over the domain and work out some type of "marketing" deal... i.e., work at the next XBiz event. That would work out for everyone I'm sure and it would benefit Claire greatly in the long run.

Then D$ gave her the best advice she could have gotten.

DateDoc · 06-05-2008, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John.

Sure will make an interesting case I guess... X versus XXX

here is where it was posted http://www.gfy.com/showpost.php?p=14...&postcount=147

directfiesta · 06-05-2008, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by halfpint

If this goes to court and xxxclaire has no money what happens ?

She has to clean the judge's house, naked.

Roald · 06-05-2008, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quesadilla

watch out everyone you'll be labled haters for pointing out the obvious. tons of people busted her out for lying and all sorts of stuff and most didn't call her any names, but yet everyone who fought the titties and pussy was labeled haters. suck it morons. its blatant infringement. she started a media company. the idiocy amazes me some times here. words of advice, don't endorse peoples over having a couple drinks and a snog with them at shows. her game stunk from the beginning. now go off to cybernet show and make friends with her to come back and back her up once again.

there you have it, amen

XPays · 06-05-2008, 01:08 PM

Freedom to pursue legal business without intellectual property dilution is a right.

It is also a necessity if one wants to have a business to preserve in the first place.

Supz · 06-05-2008, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DateDoc

Franck is going to have a field day with this!

OH FO SHO

Robbie · 06-05-2008, 01:10 PM

Steady, steady...must try to time this to get post number 101 before JFK can get it...

halfpint · 06-05-2008, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta

She has to clean the judge's house, naked.

Makingcoin · 06-05-2008, 01:19 PM

I actually thought they were related as well.

Odie · 06-05-2008, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

Steady, steady...must try to time this to get post number 101 before JFK can get it...

ahahahaha Robbie!

JFK · 06-05-2008, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

Steady, steady...must try to time this to get post number 101 before JFK can get it...

still got a few to go grasshopper

mike-al · 06-05-2008, 01:24 PM

I dunno the whole story here, bit if the beef is just the domain xxxbiztv.com and not the company name, dont see anything really "wrong" sort of speak.

There's a huge difference between X and XXX and tv is added.. I guess if xxxbiztv.com is media company would be a problem, again not sure of full story here so I just shutup and watch

Never liked the name xbiz anyhow, so I'll root for the underdog seeing when I started in this biz I sold Helmy toys and never got a dime from them

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 06-05-2008, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdvertisingSex

maybe xbiz wants the new traffic generated by this startup and are hoping to bully xxxbiz into giving them the name and traffic. maybe that's why they waited until now

Alexa rankings:

xBiz = 24,184

xxxBizTV = 901,616

ADG

_Richard_ · 06-05-2008, 01:28 PM

good luck to all the winners!

JFK · 06-05-2008, 01:28 PM

lets try this one ;)

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Socks Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 8,475	We don't know what Xbiz offered though. Claire has a reputation, be it good or bad on this forum and others I'm sure, and if she were to change her name she's losing something. What was offered in return? My feelings are they did offer her something lucrative, but it either it wasn't enough, or she thinks playing hardball with Xbiz is somehow a good idea. If she really wants to hold on to the name forever, she has no clue about business whatsoever. Less than 0. This is an opportunity. Now another question: Is Xbiz reporting on this? :D

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