I'll have to go through my files.. this was from last year and is pretty much packed away, however, im sure python has a copy of it on their wall so how about it Brent, why dont you scan them in for us!

I like lesbians, but not those two dyke bitches. I caught them red-handed when they solicited me to mail out the lists that they had. I didn't believe them until they finally produced one. By this time they had not only indicted themselves but also a few Python employees and an independant contractor (you?) in an ICQ transcript that was huge.

The joint venture that they explained to me was one of marketing the stolen naughtymail lists and sharing the revenue. I don't care to go back in history but in that instance the person that got fucked was obviously David, the owner of Python. Unfortunately, employees sometimes steal and in this instance it clearly showed the character of all of those individuals as being far less than stellar.

When you found ME on the board a few weeks ago you lied about who you were and how you knew I was the one that caught the thiefs. Why was that?

Humm... I don't know you, I barely knew all those people. It was never anything personal, I'm just a person of principle. I just fucking hate thieves, they approached the wrong person.

Brad

the only reason i didnt mention it was because i really didnt feel like having to explain things yet again. it isnt like i did anything with the lists and i can sleep at night knowing this.

um, am I following this right? you took the liberty of downloading an email list to 'back up' at your home that belonged to the company you work for?

and then a pair of lesbians, though I'm not sure why lesbians matters in this case, it's not like they are KKK or Hell's Angels, were smart enough to figure out that you had the entire Naughty list on a computer that did not belong to either the old Naughty or Python, and they took it?

Then someone went to Brad and who knows who else, trying to setup and mail this list, or maybe selling the names off this list, and you didn't know about it beforehand?

Is this for real?

Hey Joe,

Glad to see you decided to put in an appearance.:)

And to all ou people laughing at Joe...please stop. The lesbians did have the list. But they didn't steal it.

Joe...why don't you tell the people here about the server you had of your own that was sending the Naughty Mail lists out...and about the Brand new Mustang you bought while still working at Python that you couldn't have possibly afforded...even with you still living in your Mom's basement.

And even though mentioning the Navaho deal is a way to draw attention away from yourself I will tell you that you haven't got a clue what happened there. I was one of the people going out to strip clubs with them...

Joe..there are far to many people around that know what you did and how you got caught fucking us.

To call DVP names like that has to be the most outrageous thing I have heard...In the years that I have worked for Python he has done nothing but help the people that work for him.

He does treat the people that rip him off in an entirely different fashion.

The server i had? you mean the server the group of us bought for the websites we were going to have up and running? it was never anything to do with the naughty list. it was about the venture/deal i had originally going. I never b ought the server, someone wrote me a cheque for it (if you feel like details).

As for the brand new car, naw, i never got a mustang, i hate the the new design of them since they changed in 94.

But as you just made clear, this was the exact problem python had, they trusted everyone else but their employees and usually got it in the ass a couple times.

As for the Navaho stuff? I know a lot more than you think you dumbass but i just couldnt really be bothered to bring it up. to engage in more petty shit with you/python is pretty much pointless.

As for DVP, he is very condencending and that is just my impression of him that i got after working there for nearly 2 years. If he would stop a minute to take his dick out of Vanda he might see the light. maybe he deals differently with customers/friends but for employees my experience has been anything but.

joe

About the sever..it just so happens that the people that you bought that with happen to be the lesbians you said STOLE the list from you...rather convieient isn't it.....lol

In one of your previoius posts you mentioned a failed business deal with the lesbians?

Of course it failed you DUMBASS... You got caught stealing from us.

you can tell all of the lies you want....but we have the AIM logs from your hard drive.

To all you people out there that think AIM keeps you anonymous.....If someone gets a hold of your hard drive...it ain't anonymous anymore.

If you had any balls he wouldn't have been condecending to you. It is natural that if you let people walk all over you they will. You talk really big on the boards... but if the meek every inherit the earth you'll be the one they crown King.

I aplogize to any other meek people out there. ( I am Candian and can't help it)
:)

Actually, it was one of the people who worked at python who supplied the initial money for the server you dumbass, yet again your facts are wrong.

You lost me on 'If you had any balls he wouldn't have been condecending to you.', how does me having or not having a set of balls have anything to do with how condencending DVP is?

As for logs, i can create longs which higher ups in python claimed to rip webmasters off, does that mean it is true?

As for talking big on the boards, im not talking big about anything just mearly stating the facts for the uneducated who might actually buy into your rants & raves.

As for meek, you continue to let Python pay you less than what your worth, guess that just reflects what you think your self worth is, well, worth.

joe

Good to hear, most of the lesbians I have met aren't the type to be stealing from people.

I dont think you've come across these chicks... they're not so much lesbians as they are dykes.

hmmm, two tops don't make a sandwich.

OK....so you had a server to send the lists from. you just didn't pay for it. Got it!

If you don't understand the concept of how you allow yourself to be pushed around I am not going to explain it to you.

These logs were not created...but whatever...It's your word against mine....

BTW..it is interesting how you have all of Python's IP's blocked from going to any of your sites.

I am ranting..Maybe......I tend to get that way when thieves malign me and the people I work for.

As for what I get paid...you would drop a load in you pants if you knew what I made. As to whether I am getting paid what I deserve or not...probably not.... Python is probably over paying me....lol

Anyway...I have to go out for the evening...you can continue this in my absence or we can keep going tomorrow.
:glugglug

What a joke.
It's better to say nothing then trying to defend yourself like this.

wow this is intense,

Maybe Elvis, this was a first time post, and you can feel what you like about what I have to say, but I know of what I speak. Plain and simple I speak in facts always.

As for Joe, I am sure he is not 100% innocent and not 100% guilty either. Funny the things you hear in the industry about who did what to whom.

I am glad you like your job that much, hope they appreciate you as much as you appreciate them. But in my experience somehow I doubt that.

Oh and Joe
Do you know the difference between a lesbian and a dyke, cuz it definitely does NOT have anything to do with their integrity.

something to think about...

I know the difference and i wouldnt judge anyone by that term as i know some dykes who are amazing people.

As for liking my job, i wouldnt say i loved but however, working with the people i did (none of the management people) i enjoyed their company. There were/is a lot of cool people working at python but the ones calling the shots are morons and dont know how to treat employees, which his why their turnover rate is high.

Joe

I'm not defending myself, just saying how it all came to be.

Well im just a newbie to the industry so i hope im not outta line. Just trying to understnd because this is very interesting. ;) Anyway, some lesbians hacked into notjoe's server and stole a list which he stole? LOL This is funny shit! R the lesbians also adult webmasters? Who are they????

the lesbian chicks who did it? i rather not mention more names than which i have already ;)

Joe

hmmmm.....it says i am probably spamming? :helpme

I have always only been a reader at this board and never posted, but this is just too interesting to pass up. First of all, let me try to understand this... notjoe, who is actually Joe, 'backed up' this list and brought it home with him (or backed it up at home), and then uploaded it to his server, which was a server that he and someone from Python purchased. Then, a couple of lesbians (chuckle, what does this have to do with anything?) hacked into it and then stole it. Is this right? If it is, then I have a few questions:
1) Who ARE these lesbians and how can I get a hold of them. I think I love them already! I need some people hacked!
2) What does Brad have to do with this? Besides "catching the thieves" because he "fucking hates thieves". That's interesting coming from him. After all, right after he met Cathy from SinLinks, he registered all the "Sin" names he could and tried to sell them back to her!!! (Heard this story from Cathy at Internext so I only have one side). Not necessarily thieving, but interesting ethics anyway.
3) Why the hell was he backing the lists up to a server that was supposed to be joint venture between himself, someone from Python, and the two Lesbians?

hmmm...very interesting indeed......

You mentioned names? I must have missed that.

Wow! That was harsh! Who is Brad now??? This is getting crazy.....

And it says you are probably spamming too????

Wha???:eek7 :eyecrazy

in response to 1) they're not good looking!
2) very interesting,
3) the deal went bad before this all happened and i ended up buying she server from them.

in response to 1) they're not good looking!

I just need some good hackers! LOL...I'm JK!

2) very interesting, (yes...It is!)

3) the deal went bad before this all happened and i ended up buying she server from them.

So...You had backed it up to this server that you guys owned before the deal went bad, or after?

I don't get it...lol

And...I'm out of Oreo's.

:eek7

correct, the deal went bad, i removed all their accounts (so i had thought), bought out the ppl for the machine since i was going to continue my paysites when they logged in like a month or two later and downloaded that shit.

It isnt like i put it on a server and said here you go but you didnt get it from me.

but what was the list doing on ur server in the 1st place?

The deal went bad and THEN they hacked in? Cant you sue them for this?

someone make some good shit up now,,this convo is starting to get stale...lets try this,,joe you fucked one of the lesbian hoez and she had half the list tattoed on her size 40 ass.

Ok, that sort of makes sense...

How did you end up with the server? Bought them out?

And seriously, if you were working from home, why did you backup the lists to a server that was to be used for another business? This seems like a serious conflict of interest.

You seem like a decent guy and are answering the questions put to you, but all I'm getting with all the accusations is that Python are cheaters, and there are some seriously shady dealings between Python employees and others.

:glugglug

Bascally, there were never enough time in the day to do what i had to do to download the lists. you try downloading 5,000 emails at a time from form submit data manually, for a few million emails.

At the point when i was backing the stuff up i had already bought the server and my ties with these people were severed, they shouldnt have had access to the server to log in, more so, start downloading things which didnt belong to them.

Another example of what i did while i was there was run a CVSUP server from at home where i did a lot of programming to sync stuff i was writing for the company, however, this never came up/was an issue as no one broke into it and stole everything.

joe

i was scared of these broads!

hahah :)

but what was the list doing on ur server in the 1st place?

The deal went bad and THEN they hacked in? Cant you sue them for this?

I can/still/might do so once i see if i can retain a decent lawyer for a decent price in toronto.

DR_PHIL: As boring as it might seem i just rather everyone know the truth about what it was which happened than some guys rampage on me over something which actually never concerned him to begin with. 1/2 Truths are just as good as lies and like i said...might as well just explain the entire story ;)

it still doesn't make sense. they stole from you what you were accused of stealing??? And from what I read, you settled right? Doesnt that mean you admited your guilt? How could they have stolen from you what you admitedly stole then?

How can u say that i stole it? I was asked to do something within a certian amount of time which could have not been all done at the office, i assume you never take work home with you? what if you were to take some work home, someone stole your laptop and your work and released/stole domain names.

As i explained in a different post why i settled, read it at:
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...threadid=83045

most incredible story - much better than what's on TV right now. Maybe not an hour ago (the bacholr II was on) but now it's just sitcom reruns and this is much more fun. Lesibans, hacking, stealing, fraud, ect. This might make movie of the week.

It always amazes me how much effort people put into trying to rip someone off -

Once someone (like python) has made it there's always people who were just cogs along the way that think they did everything though and that the world OWES them something.

Human nature - most workers think they are more important than they really are.