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StickyGreen 05-23-2008 05:07 PM
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notoldschool 05-23-2008 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 14230111)
nice. Its actually true in order.

Nails 05-23-2008 05:34 PM
bump for rob who actually makes money

SoloGirlsContent 05-23-2008 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Nails (Post 14230173)
bump for rob who actually makes money
well tell Rob he needs to send some of that good American money he's making to McBush's campaign..Looks like THE BUSH-MCCAIN FUNDRAISER WAS A FLOP..:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

http://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/s...ml?jst=b_ln_hl

SoloGirlsContent 05-23-2008 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by robfantasy (Post 14229351)
trust me, if the other energy options were more feasible than oil.. industry and the free markets would have created an alternative solution.. there are other options, but they just dont compare..


we are in iraq for many reasons.. political, financial, strategic. we are not there to liberate iraq. that is what they tell the sheep.

as much as the dems hate america and hate george bush and think this country is run by idiots... its the opposite. the real political, financial, military minds who RUN the country behind closed doors dont disclose everything to the general public...
Man you are hypnotized by this shit...There are Alternative energy solutions, when this shit happened in the '70's Brazil said fuck this shit..we need to get self sufficient, now 30 years later BRAZIL is totally free of outside oil and run all shit on sugarcane ethanol..we are behind because the powers that be " don't make enough money on it"

pocketkangaroo 05-23-2008 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Nails (Post 14226251)
Why on earth would you want him? I know you make real money not like 99% of gfy, so why do you want to pay more in taxes.
Republicans spend more than Democrats these days. McCain can promise low taxes all he wants, but someday, someone is going to have pay off the debt before the country goes bankrupt. I'd also gladly pay an extra percent or two if the money was going to fix problems in my country, not some shithole in the Middle East.

pocketkangaroo 05-23-2008 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 14227912)
Was Dukakis every ahead in the polls? I dont recall that one, but I was pretty young back then, could of been.
Dukakis was up double digits that summer over Bush. He made some shitty mistakes in his campaign and Bush had way more money at the time.

For those who remember 1992, Clinton was in 3rd place over the summer

pocketkangaroo 05-23-2008 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by robfantasy (Post 14228568)
the dems want to CHANGE the way you live man. they want the redistribution of wealth.

they want to take from hardworking people to pay for the bottom half of society.

they want more government involvement

i want less..
Which party was behind the following?

- Medicare plan that will cost taxpayers over a trillion dollars over the next 10 years. We are also not allowed to negotiate with pharmaceutical companies.

- Massive farm subsidy bill that gives hundreds of millions of dollars to farmers who couldn't make it.

- No Child Left Behind and the massive federal socialization of our school systems.

- Spending of hundreds of billions of dollars to rebuild New Orleans and provide people with check cards and trailer homes billed to the taxpayers.

- Approving $30 billion in tax dollars to bailout Bear Stearns. Also approving the Fed's move to give as much money as they can to failing banks and investment firms.

Bush and Republicans have spent more money than any group in our nation's history from 2000-2006. They increased government programs, bailed out businesses with tax dollars, and spent on anything they could. Stop acting like the Republicans are for small government and fiscal responsibility. Those days are long gone. The candidates are the same, they'll just spend our money on different shit.

tony286 05-23-2008 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by robfantasy (Post 14228568)
the dems want to CHANGE the way you live man. they want the redistribution of wealth.

they want to take from hardworking people to pay for the bottom half of society.

they want more government involvement

i want less..
Man you have drank the kool aid hard. You need to learn your parties history not listening to the right wing pundits. The two largest tax increases in this country during peacetime were during Reagan.

pocketkangaroo 05-23-2008 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 14230577)
Man you have drank the kool aid hard. You need to learn your parties history not listening to the right wing pundits. The two largest tax increases in this country during peacetime were during Reagan.
Next thing you'll tell me is he negotiated with our enemies the Iranians and Soviets.

Nails 05-23-2008 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 14230544)
Which party was behind the following?

- Medicare plan that will cost taxpayers over a trillion dollars over the next 10 years. We are also not allowed to negotiate with pharmaceutical companies.

- Massive farm subsidy bill that gives hundreds of millions of dollars to farmers who couldn't make it.

- No Child Left Behind and the massive federal socialization of our school systems.

- Spending of hundreds of billions of dollars to rebuild New Orleans and provide people with check cards and trailer homes billed to the taxpayers.

- Approving $30 billion in tax dollars to bailout Bear Stearns. Also approving the Fed's move to give as much money as they can to failing banks and investment firms.

Bush and Republicans have spent more money than any group in our nation's history from 2000-2006. They increased government programs, bailed out businesses with tax dollars, and spent on anything they could. Stop acting like the Republicans are for small government and fiscal responsibility. Those days are long gone. The candidates are the same, they'll just spend our money on different shit.
Guess who controls the house and senate? If you guessed democrats then you won! They are the ones who bailed out bear stearns.

Democrats also pushed thru "Domestic programs included $8.2 billion for Hurricane Katrina and other natural disasters, with $5.8 billion for levees around New Orleans and $348 million for restoration of Mississippi coastal islands."

tony286 05-23-2008 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Nails (Post 14230623)
Guess who controls the house and senate? If you guessed democrats then you won! They are the ones who bailed out bear stearns.

Democrats also pushed thru "Domestic programs included $8.2 billion for Hurricane Katrina and other natural disasters, with $5.8 billion for levees around New Orleans and $348 million for restoration of Mississippi coastal islands."
You were mislead bear stearns : http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/03/...ss/paulson.php

And Democrats pushed? 75 senators voted for it, that would have to include a shit loads of republicans. Also once again the two largest tax increases in the nations history during peacetime were under Reagan. Im not making this up really.

pocketkangaroo 05-23-2008 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Nails (Post 14230623)
Guess who controls the house and senate? If you guessed democrats then you won! They are the ones who bailed out bear stearns.

Democrats also pushed thru "Domestic programs included $8.2 billion for Hurricane Katrina and other natural disasters, with $5.8 billion for levees around New Orleans and $348 million for restoration of Mississippi coastal islands."
Actually, every single bill I listed there was done during a Republican Congress and Republican Presidency. The President, a Republican, signed all of those bills except one (which his Republican members of Congress overturned his veto).

The members of the Federal Reserve are appointed by the President of the United States. President Bush and Treasury Secretary Paulson signed off on the bailout of Bear Stearns and praised the Fed's decision. They are the ones with control over the Federal Reserve.

uno 05-24-2008 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Axeman (Post 14226079)
That actually is the biggest problem imo. The fact he is trailing in these swing states already when the Republicans have such a poor image and its supposed to be a guaranteed lock for the democrats, is really the issue. He is trailing before the Right gets out the hammer and further beats him down.

Polls also show him losing to McCain in New Hampshire, Missouri and North Carolina in which the polls all show Clinton beating McCain. Not to mention Kentucky and West Virgina.

The one state Obama has a chance to win that Clinton does not is Virgina and maybe Colorado.

Its going to get ugly.
He never had a chance of winning Kentucky anyway. It's a pretty solid red state. :2 cents:

DixieDash 05-24-2008 12:59 PM
I'm going back and forth between McCain and Obama. If Hillary stays on tho, she will probably mess up Obama's votes.

http://www.deathbymilk.com/wp-conten.../hillsplt2.jpg

uno 05-24-2008 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by mynameisjim (Post 14226209)
Just look at all the conservative news outlets. They bashed Clinton from day one because they would rather face Obama. Go through the Drudge Report archives for the past year and ever day had negative headlines about Hillary and goofy pictures of her where she looked like a crazy person. Even when Hillary was winning primaries they listed it like this..

Obama: 48 %
Clinton: 52 %

There is no reason to put Obama on top. The one thing about Republicans is they know how to win elections and play politics and if they want to face Obama, that tells you something.

The only way Mcain will lose is if he makes a huge blunder and has a senior moment and calls Obama a negro or something else catastrophic. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

i was watching fox news yesterday to see what they'd say about hillary's RFK comments. All they did was show a clip of 50 cent saying obama might get assassinated. I'd hardly call that anti-hillary, pro-obama.

DixieDash 05-24-2008 01:03 PM
lol I just figured out only one person gets the dem ticket. Wow I can be smart.:1orglaugh:upsidedow

spanky part 2 05-24-2008 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by robfantasy (Post 14228534)
addiction to oil is not the fault of our government, it is personal choice..

healthcare is a personal choice, you can chose to pay for it or you can go buy expensive shoes and colorful shirts with a mcdonalds paycheck..

the government provides money called grants so underprivlaged people can get a higher education and better themselves.

its a personal choice to strive to make something of yourself and to better your position so you can BUY gasoline, BUY healthcare and BUY whatever you want.

it is the democratic party that wants to reward failure, penalize people like myself who took responsibility and hard work to better their position in life.

i do not want the government to make decisions for me..

if the government is going to take care of me from cradle to grave, whats my incentive to do anything... i might as well sit around and smoke weed all day and not give a shit.

fuck "taking" money from me to pay for those assholes because i can afford it.


if i want to live in a socialist society i would move out of this country. america is the land of the freee. i love my freedom. i love my country. i love capitalism.
You must hate paved roads, fire departments, mass transit, police etc because they are all payed for with "your" socialist tax money.

Go back to high school, seeing as you barely graduated a few years ago.

Snake Doctor 05-25-2008 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by CAMOKAT (Post 14228995)
popular where? he sure isn't here.. let me you remind you that I live down south, I live with bafoons that support Bush and will support McCain no matter what. Maybe in Oregan they don't, but in " Baba land " they do.
Well in those areas no other Democrat would do very well either. So what exactly is your point?

You say that Obama can't win, but what Democrat could win in the areas you speak of? (Other than possibly a Democrat in name only, who was truly a conservative, in which case that wouldn't be any different than what we have now)

Snake Doctor 05-25-2008 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by CAMOKAT (Post 14229014)
oh, now it matters.. in post one it was just an "opinion"..


http://www.surveyusa.com/index.php/2...76-mccain-262/
Just pointing out that opinions are like assholes, everybody has one.

Why does the poll you posted have merit and the one I posted doesn't?

If you agree with me that polls done at this point have no real merit, then why are you using one as a basis for your argument against Obama?

If you think that polls do matter, then the one that I posted was much more thorough, and covered all 50 states.

Snake Doctor 05-25-2008 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by robfantasy (Post 14229280)
when you sign up for the military, its a job. its not a negotiation. if you dont want the money and benefits and bonuses, dont sign up for the military. your purpose in the military is to do what the commander and chief tells you to do.

its like any other job. you are paid for your time and to do the job you signed up for. no one MADE you sign up for the military.
I wasn't talking about the people in the military. I was talking about ME.

My tax dollars being spent on a war against a country that didn't attack us and was never a threat to us.

MY taxes will be raised, either now or in the future, to pay for this war that our current President has put on the national credit card.

You wanna talk about big government? It doesn't get any bigger than the military-industrial complex. War is a big as it gets for any government.

You want a smaller government? Elect someone who will end the current war and won't go starting other wars unless they're absolutely necessary.

directfiesta 05-25-2008 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Nails (Post 14230623)
Guess who controls the house and senate? If you guessed democrats then you won! They are the ones who bailed out bear stearns.
You just say anything, right ? And you so believe it that you , as usual, do not even make the effort of backing up your blanket claim... You said it, so it is true...

What is worse is that americans believe that after being said so over and over again ... just a bit like ... the famous WMD ....

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Senator Christopher Dodd, the Connecticut Democrat who heads the Senate Banking Committee, asked Paulson to appear before his panel on April 3, along with Ben Bernanke, the chairman of the Federal Reserve, and the top executives of Bear Stearns and JPMorgan Chase, which has moved to acquire Bear Stearns.

Meanwhile, the Senate Finance Committee will investigate "just how the government decided to front $30 billion in taxpayer dollars for the Bear Stearns deal," in the words of Senator Max Baucus, the Montana Democrat who is chairman of the panel. He and the committee's ranking Republican, Senator Charles Grassley of Iowa, wrote a letter asking for extensive details of the transaction.

Paulson defended the Fed's recent offering of a $30 billion credit line to JPMorgan Chase as part of the deal, but he said such moves ought not to become routine.

"The Federal Reserve acted promptly to resolve the Bear Stearns situation and avoid a disorderly wind-down," Paulson said at the United States Chamber of Commerce's annual Capital Markets Summit. "It is the job of regulators to come together to address times such as this, and we did so."

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/03/...cndpaulson.php
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On the Brink of Collapse, Bear Stearns Gets a Lifeline From a Rival and the Feds

NEW YORK (AP) -- On the verge of a collapse that could have shaken the very foundations of the U.S. financial system, investment bank Bear Stearns Cos. was bailed out Friday by a rival and the federal government. The near-miss raised new alarm about the credit crisis -- and whether other big firms might be in jeopardy.

The rescue came from JPMorgan Chase & Co. and, in an extraordinary step, the Federal Reserve, both rushing to pump new money into the venerable Wall Street firm after its financial state deteriorated so much in a 24-hour period that it threatened to fail.

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080314/bear_stearns.html
Don't bother with another drivel ...

David! 05-25-2008 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by simonsyinister (Post 14230511)
Man you are hypnotized by this shit...There are Alternative energy solutions, when this shit happened in the '70's Brazil said fuck this shit..we need to get self sufficient, now 30 years later BRAZIL is totally free of outside oil and run all shit on sugarcane ethanol..we are behind because the powers that be " don't make enough money on it"
You are a fucking retard.
Brazil may be free of importing outside oil, but did you ever stopped and wondered how they grow all the fucking sugar cane and corn they need to make their ethanol?

How about by cutting and cutting more the fucking rain forest.

So Brazil is asphyxiating the planet by destroying the rain forest and also slaughtering the real Brazilians, the Amerindians who live in the forest.

That's what I call being environmentaly responsible:thumbsup

Now you can go fuck yourself !!! :321GFY

spanky part 2 05-25-2008 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by PussyMan (Post 14234111)
You are a fucking retard.
Brazil may be free of importing outside oil, but did you ever stopped and wondered how they grow all the fucking sugar cane and corn they need to make their ethanol?

How about by cutting and cutting more the fucking rain forest.

So Brazil is asphyxiating the planet by destroying the rain forest and also slaughtering the real Brazilians, the Amerindians who live in the forest.

That's what I call being environmentaly responsible:thumbsup

Now you can go fuck yourself !!! :321GFY
Oh how we judge, when about 100 years ago you could say the same thing for the good ol' USA

notoldschool 05-25-2008 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by PussyMan (Post 14234111)
You are a fucking retard.
Brazil may be free of importing outside oil, but did you ever stopped and wondered how they grow all the fucking sugar cane and corn they need to make their ethanol?

How about by cutting and cutting more the fucking rain forest.

So Brazil is asphyxiating the planet by destroying the rain forest and also slaughtering the real Brazilians, the Amerindians who live in the forest.

That's what I call being environmentaly responsible:thumbsup

Now you can go fuck yourself !!! :321GFY
Like u give a shit about the envronment.

David! 05-25-2008 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by spanky part 2 (Post 14234511)
Oh how we judge, when about 100 years ago you could say the same thing for the good ol' USA
Retardo, who is talking about the USA here?
The sinister idiot mentioned Brasil as a great example of oild independence. I just point out some details he forgot to mention.

David! 05-25-2008 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 14234532)
Like u give a shit about the envronment.
I probably shouldn't waste my time replying to you, but nevertheless, I should point out that you and your liberal losers have done more to hurt the environment that most people who think like me.
Now you can go fuck yourself and don't forget granpa Ron too :thumbsup

tony286 05-25-2008 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by PussyMan (Post 14235150)
I probably shouldn't waste my time replying to you, but nevertheless, I should point out that you and your liberal losers have done more to hurt the environment that most people who think like me.
Now you can go fuck yourself and don't forget granpa Ron too :thumbsup
This is the problem when people follow pundits as news sources.

GatorB 05-25-2008 03:56 PM
The original poster's point just got lost. Bob Barr just got the Libertarian nomination. In close states he will take votes from McCain.

robfantasy 05-25-2008 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by simonsyinister (Post 14230511)
Man you are hypnotized by this shit...There are Alternative energy solutions, when this shit happened in the '70's Brazil said fuck this shit..we need to get self sufficient, now 30 years later BRAZIL is totally free of outside oil and run all shit on sugarcane ethanol..we are behind because the powers that be " don't make enough money on it"
there are alternative solutions, but they are not as good as oil, for instance, there are alternatives to meat like tofu burgers, but i dont want to eat tofu burgers because its my choice, id rather have a burger made of beef. so producers of beef will keep making beef because the market determines what is produced. supply and demand.

have you ever driven a hybrid????

have you ever driven a v8 or v12 ???


its a choice, and its determined by people and free markets, not government or "the powers that be"

robfantasy 05-25-2008 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 14230544)
Which party was behind the following?

- Medicare plan that will cost taxpayers over a trillion dollars over the next 10 years. We are also not allowed to negotiate with pharmaceutical companies.

- Massive farm subsidy bill that gives hundreds of millions of dollars to farmers who couldn't make it.

- No Child Left Behind and the massive federal socialization of our school systems.

- Spending of hundreds of billions of dollars to rebuild New Orleans and provide people with check cards and trailer homes billed to the taxpayers.

- Approving $30 billion in tax dollars to bailout Bear Stearns. Also approving the Fed's move to give as much money as they can to failing banks and investment firms.

Bush and Republicans have spent more money than any group in our nation's history from 2000-2006. They increased government programs, bailed out businesses with tax dollars, and spent on anything they could. Stop acting like the Republicans are for small government and fiscal responsibility. Those days are long gone. The candidates are the same, they'll just spend our money on different shit.
its true any administration will spend our money on different shit.. but i dont like the current proposals the dems have on the table..

robfantasy 05-25-2008 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 14230577)
Man you have drank the kool aid hard. You need to learn your parties history not listening to the right wing pundits. The two largest tax increases in this country during peacetime were during Reagan.
i dont listen to right wing pundits... i am an independent.

im talking about right now and what im hearing right now..from all of these candidates

i want the candidate that will fuck us the least, and that is mccain

robfantasy 05-25-2008 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by spanky part 2 (Post 14232972)
You must hate paved roads, fire departments, mass transit, police etc because they are all payed for with "your" socialist tax money.

Go back to high school, seeing as you barely graduated a few years ago.
i dont even have a response for you, your lack of intelligence has already been communicated in your previous responses to my posts.

robfantasy 05-25-2008 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Snake Doctor (Post 14234073)
I wasn't talking about the people in the military. I was talking about ME.

My tax dollars being spent on a war against a country that didn't attack us and was never a threat to us.

MY taxes will be raised, either now or in the future, to pay for this war that our current President has put on the national credit card.

You wanna talk about big government? It doesn't get any bigger than the military-industrial complex. War is a big as it gets for any government.

You want a smaller government? Elect someone who will end the current war and won't go starting other wars unless they're absolutely necessary.

you are an american citizen, if you would like to give up your freedoms that the brave men and women who have died for your country have fought to uphold, please move to another country.

all you peace time stop the war types, do you know that islamic terrorists want to slit your throat, and that they will do whatever it takes to bring down western civilization.

this is a time of war, uncertain times, you need a strong military commander, you do not need someone who is scared of war and wants to run away and retreat.

the offensive is survival in any hostile and unstable environment...

whether it the street corner, in prison, animals in the wild.

do you want our country to be the world bitch and have every other super power take a shot at us? or be on the offensive?

notoldschool 05-25-2008 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by robfantasy (Post 14235346)
from all of these candidates

i want the candidate that will fuck us the least, and that is mccain
LOL. Dumbass.

Wolfy 05-25-2008 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 14230544)
Which party was behind the following?

- Medicare plan that will cost taxpayers over a trillion dollars over the next 10 years. We are also not allowed to negotiate with pharmaceutical companies.

- Massive farm subsidy bill that gives hundreds of millions of dollars to farmers who couldn't make it.

- No Child Left Behind and the massive federal socialization of our school systems.

- Spending of hundreds of billions of dollars to rebuild New Orleans and provide people with check cards and trailer homes billed to the taxpayers.

- Approving $30 billion in tax dollars to bailout Bear Stearns. Also approving the Fed's move to give as much money as they can to failing banks and investment firms.

Bush and Republicans have spent more money than any group in our nation's history from 2000-2006. They increased government programs, bailed out businesses with tax dollars, and spent on anything they could. Stop acting like the Republicans are for small government and fiscal responsibility. Those days are long gone. The candidates are the same, they'll just spend our money on different shit.
Quote:
Originally Posted by spanky part 2 (Post 14232972)
You must hate paved roads, fire departments, mass transit, police etc because they are all payed for with "your" socialist tax money.

Go back to high school, seeing as you barely graduated a few years ago.
I was about to hop on Kangaroo's side here, but this little bit of your post distracted me.

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...police etc because they are all payed for with "your" socialist....
How the fuck do you tell someone to "go back to high school" and use the word "payed" in the same breath?

robfantasy 05-25-2008 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 14235380)
LOL. Dumbass.
LOL. GO RON PAUL Lol

notoldschool 05-25-2008 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by robfantasy (Post 14235469)
LOL. GO RON PAUL Lol
He has a better chance of becoming our next president that Mccain does. :2 cents:

directfiesta 05-25-2008 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by robfantasy (Post 14235374)
you are an american citizen, if you would like to give up your freedoms that the brave men and women who have died for your country have fought to uphold, please move to another country.

all you peace time stop the war types, do you know that islamic terrorists want to slit your throat, and that they will do whatever it takes to bring down western civilization.

this is a time of war, uncertain times, you need a strong military commander, you do not need someone who is scared of war and wants to run away and retreat.

the offensive is survival in any hostile and unstable environment...

whether it the street corner, in prison, animals in the wild.

do you want our country to be the world bitch and have every other super power take a shot at us? or be on the offensive?
http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:...EWS_20LOGO.jpg

As for "independents", amazing how they are all far right wing people that are ashamed of stating the obvious fact that they are republicans ... bunch of judas....

spanky part 2 05-25-2008 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by PussyMan (Post 14235145)
Retardo, who is talking about the USA here?
The sinister idiot mentioned Brasil as a great example of oild independence. I just point out some details he forgot to mention.
God you're a fucking idiot. Maybe re-read the post, but here is the cliff notes for dummies.

We did the same thing 100 years ago. Killed all the american indians and raped the land.

Ok back to being the total fool you are.

tony286 05-25-2008 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 14235747)
http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:...EWS_20LOGO.jpg

As for "independents", amazing how they are all far right wing people that are ashamed of stating the obvious fact that they are republicans ... bunch of judas....
You got a point. Also they never have the answer for how come they havent gotten Bin Laden?

Phil 05-25-2008 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 14235183)
The original poster's point just got lost. Bob Barr just got the Libertarian nomination. In close states he will take votes from McCain.
long ago.. Good for Libertarians, take votes away from democrats, prove your point that you’re absolutely useless.
Simon is just another idiot driving his SUV and going on about “green land” and “lets get rid of oil needle” bullshit. He has no idea how much favor Petrobras is doing to people of Manaos.. I don’t think he can even find Brasil on the map. Porra.. Blowing smoke up the ass is cool nowadays..

GatorB 05-25-2008 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by CAMOKAT (Post 14236223)
long ago.. Good for Libertarians, take votes away from democrats, prove your point that you?re absolutely useless.
Simon is just another idiot driving his SUV and going on about ?green land? and ?lets get rid of oil needle? bullshit. He has no idea how much favor Petrobras is doing to people of Manaos.. I don?t think he can even find Brasil on the map. Porra.. Blowing smoke up the ass is cool nowadays..

Speak english motherfucker. WTF? Libertarians will take more votes away from the GOP than the DNC idiot. Barr is a former REPUBLICAN. Barr will appeal to republicans that still believe in smaller government.

pocketkangaroo 05-26-2008 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by CAMOKAT (Post 14236223)
long ago.. Good for Libertarians, take votes away from democrats, prove your point that you?re absolutely useless.
Simon is just another idiot driving his SUV and going on about ?green land? and ?lets get rid of oil needle? bullshit. He has no idea how much favor Petrobras is doing to people of Manaos.. I don?t think he can even find Brasil on the map. Porra.. Blowing smoke up the ass is cool nowadays..
He would take fiscal conservative votes away from Republicans, not Democrats. Republicans were the ones that used to tout small government, personal freedoms, etc. They don't do that anymore and there will be some old school Republicans who will vote for Barr instead.

If Democrats were smart, they'd be raising money for Barr right now too.

nation-x 05-26-2008 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 14236468)
He would take fiscal conservative votes away from Republicans, not Democrats. Republicans were the ones that used to tout small government, personal freedoms, etc. They don't do that anymore and there will be some old school Republicans who will vote for Barr instead.

If Democrats were smart, they'd be raising money for Barr right now too.
Unfortunately, Nader is his counterpart

Axeman 05-26-2008 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by uno (Post 14232154)
He never had a chance of winning Kentucky anyway. It's a pretty solid red state. :2 cents:
Latest poll out of Kentucky.

McCain 57% - Obama 32%

McCain 42% - Clinton 51%


So I agree Obama has no shot at KY, but Clinton has a real shot to take it.

http://rasmussenreports.com/public_c...ntial_election

shermo 06-03-2008 03:40 PM
Bump back up:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080603/pl_afp/usvotepoll

Check out the swing. it's still WAY to o early to tell. :)


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