That's a retarded comparison, the point they were making is NO modern candidate has had the ability to attract voters out to hear them speak in the way Obama has...period!

says who? I doubt McCain crowds are any less in numbers. especially if goes to places like Alabama or Texas. Another opinion of over hyped noobs who knows nothing about politics.

Jesus Fing Christ.. Its washington post, not Hillary or supporters saying so.

here's another "Hillary's supporters opinion" - earth is round...

I frequently post on a political board... republican.com <-- maybe you should go there and read some of the posts.

No thank you. I have used up all my republican ambitions in college when I joined “college republicans” club..

That was in Oregon and there 75,000 people there. Lets se McCain was there a couple of days before in a high school gymnasium.

This election will be a mandate on the last 8 years. McCain is just a lamb to the slaughter. The repubs know they can't win and need to regroup with a new plan in 4 years. So here ya go mac, it's your turn to run you old fuck.

Even the conservative talk shows are saying november could be worse than after Nixon and watergate.:1orglaugh


Get used to it redneck bitches.....President Barack Obama

Polls are not FACTS.

You can say it's a "fact" that she is polling better in certain states right now against McCain. That's true....but you're trying to extrapolate that to a "fact" that says Obama will lose in November.

She has always and will always poll better in those states than Obama. When it comes to the south and industrial midwest John Edwards polls better than both of them.

So what?

Obama's electoral map has always been different than hers.

Besides, polls done this far out are meaningless. If they were an indicator of who would win, Hillary would have won every primary by 20+ points, and Michael Dukakis, Ross Perot, and John Kerry all would have been President.

that attitude of "la-la-la" and your hands over your ears should get you pretty far dude. Good luck with it!

Was Dukakis every ahead in the polls? I dont recall that one, but I was pretty young back then, could of been.

If polls meant anything at all Ron Paul would have won the GOP nomination. If I remember correctly he won every live poll by far, even on Fox.

Face it................

OBAMA in 08

Buffett is a goofy old man who is trying to buy his way into heaven by giving all of his money away.

and??? Like I said, bring McCain to Texas and he'll have Cowboys stadium packed in 20 minutes. Obama would be lucky to get South Dallas church filled.

get a clue...

http://www.stateofsunshine.com/images/electoral1.jpg

Would you mind reading the article BEFORE you start arguing.. Those are NOT certain states, those are the states Dems need to win the election. Florida.. Remember why W is in white house and not Kerry? Fecause of that certain state.. Ohio, another 50/50 states that Dems need badly. Jesus people, are you all on drugs or something. Wake up and smell the concrete…

Perot was ever leading polls.. ya , what ever... Not even in Texas.. don't need to tell me that, Im from Texas..

LOL... you post "get a clue" and a map showing the democrats winning... lol

264/254

anybody but McCain if you ask me. But I doubt Obama will be able to pull it off.. lets picture that. You'll be biting your elbows when you get your draft notice in the mail..

Ron Paul was not ever taken seriously by the media is why he fell off the face of the earth. The influence of television on american elections is far greater than it might look.

Polls only matter when the big media companies use them in their spin before millions of viewers. Their comments posed in the form of questions. Otherwise nobody knows anything about them. Who gives a shit if a tree falls in the woods if nobody is around to hear it is the point.

Que Sera Sera

Im showing you demographics, idiot.. Its an old map from past election. And no Dems did not win. Bush is fucking Republican. Its state votes, not total numbers that matter. :disgust
You don't get out much, do ya?

I was pointing out what the map says dumb fuck. It says 2008 on it.

Your map is flawed anyway... what do you want to bet in nov that SC and GA go blue.

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It says 2008 on it...
....in nov that SC and GA go blue

Sure Pulitzer… and add texas to that as well.

i do not have all my eggs in one basket.... but i work hard and make lots of money so i dont want to pay more taxes to take care of the degenerates who are rewarded for failure.

No draft for me. I allready served. It would be funny to see sticky bug in BDU's, Kevlar, and LBE. I wonder if he would still be spouting this garbage which he knows absolutly nothing about.

i dont understand.. whats wrong with this country? i love this country. there is nothing wrong with this country. i love america. fuck you

what needs to change? life is good.

i believe there is a strong correlation between obama supporters and those who buy lottery tickets, call psychics, and sign up for get rich quick schemes.

I think Iowa will go blue too in addition to Colorado

He was ahead by 20 points the weeks after the Democratic convention.

That's not even close to true. You have good arguments to make on why McCain could win in November, why do you have to rely on such blatant lies?

Obama rallies are flat out huge, people are excited about him. No other politician in the country can match what he's doing in terms of drawing crowds.

McCain was in Texas for the primary, he could barely fill up his town hall meetings.

Damn that was one way off poll huh? lol

No, those are states that OTHER democrats would need to win in November.

Kerry could have won without Florida if he had won Ohio.

Obama can put alot of states into play that Clinton, Kerry, or Gore couldn't. 270 is 270, just because Obama plans on using a different path to 270 doesn't mean he has less of a chance.

The last 2 nominees have depended on the states you mentioned and they BOTH LOST. Maybe a new strategy isn't such a bad idea.

http://www.surveyusa.com/wp-content/...bama-final.png


http://www.surveyusa.com/index.php/2...80-mccain-258/

Bilderberg Luminary to Select Obama's Running Mate:

http://www.transworldnews.com/NewsSt...d=47760&cat=14

What is wrong in this country??? Geezus fucking christ you are a blind man. I love this country...but let's start with our addiction to OIL, let's look at our children w/out healthcare.. I make 5 figures a month and still get fucked over by healthcare...let's look at the fucke dup WAR in IRAQ..now tell me WHY ARE WE THERE again?? the story keeps changing

I love this country too, which is why I want to take it's government back from the idiots who have been running it for the past 8 years.

Don't confuse love of country with love of the people currently running the government, and their policies. That's foolish.

addiction to oil is not the fault of our government, it is personal choice..

healthcare is a personal choice, you can chose to pay for it or you can go buy expensive shoes and colorful shirts with a mcdonalds paycheck..

the government provides money called grants so underprivlaged people can get a higher education and better themselves.

its a personal choice to strive to make something of yourself and to better your position so you can BUY gasoline, BUY healthcare and BUY whatever you want.

it is the democratic party that wants to reward failure, penalize people like myself who took responsibility and hard work to better their position in life.

i do not want the government to make decisions for me..

if the government is going to take care of me from cradle to grave, whats my incentive to do anything... i might as well sit around and smoke weed all day and not give a shit.

fuck "taking" money from me to pay for those assholes because i can afford it.


if i want to live in a socialist society i would move out of this country. america is the land of the freee. i love my freedom. i love my country. i love capitalism.

the dems want to CHANGE the way you live man. they want the redistribution of wealth.

they want to take from hardworking people to pay for the bottom half of society.

they want more government involvement

i want less..

You all do realize that the speech in Oregon was preceeded by a 45 min free concert from local rock legends from Portland right?

"Unmentioned in national reporting was the fact that Obama was preceded by a rare, 45-minute free concert by actual rock stars The Decemberists. The Portland-based band has drawn rave reviews from Rolling Stone magazine, which gave their 2005 album Picaresque four and a half stars (out of five), and another four and a half stars for 2007's The Crane Wife."

A perfect day in the 80's and a free outdoor concert by local stars certainly helped to increase the crowd. Obama still brings in huge crowds, but he did get help for that crowd.

"UPDATE: Looks like the Decemberists can pack them in for free concerts. In a show in Millennium Park in Chicago, one review said 10,000; a diary by one of the band members speculates 20,000. Again, Obama has shown time and again that he can pack crowds into arenas, and he can take pride in the 75,000+ that showed up Sunday. But a free concert by local stars helps... "
http://campaignspot.nationalreview.c...Q4ZGQ1ZGI5MDc=

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Guess I missed the techno rave they held in the times forumn in Florida before he spoke. That must be why it sold out in one day.

man the fact the only sign raised is 'hope' is powerful

How much government involvement does it require to invade a country and overthrow their government and leave our kids over there for years to get hit by suicide bombers?

Forget the bottom half of society for a moment, our taxes are going to be raised to pay for the republican's war. They'll either be raised now or raised later but at some point the Bush/McCain war is going to have to be paid for.......and if it's McCain instead of Obama the troops will be there much longer and it will cost us much more.

So you say the democrats want to redistribute wealth from the top towards the bottom.

The republicans want to redistribute wealth from the middle class to Halliburton and Blackwater and all of the other people who are getting rich off of this war.

Those are your choices.

the well run republican campaign machine will sit on OBAMAs face yo ...

popular where? he sure isn't here.. let me you remind you that I live down south, I live with bafoons that support Bush and will support McCain no matter what. Maybe in Oregan they don't, but in " Baba land " they do.

Oh, Im sure they can find some fine accommodations for experienced people like you for at least 12 to 18 month.

wow, man...ok 1st of all..the OIL is NOT our choice..electric cars solar energy, shit like that has been out of reach for the normal man...BUSH is an OIL man..it is in best interest to keep us hooked on it instead of passing a bill to get some of these goddamn electric and smaller cars over here..shit I dumped my HUmmer after I opened my damn eyes..You are walking in a blind man's world bro..soon USA will be all alone and you can best believe other countries will try to push at us..it's already happening...

and why do you want to keep pouring $$$ into IRAQ?

oh, now it matters.. in post one it was just an "opinion"..


http://www.surveyusa.com/index.php/2...76-mccain-262/

Let the Dirt in Tampa be exposed thats what I always say.

LOL. Not gonna happen. I have gladly served in hazordous situations for my country for a good part of my life. I was unlucky enough to be stationed at Ft Stewart when bozo was elected the first time and made his first public speech at a military base. After he flew in aboard Marine 1 he made it clear he would be no great leader as his speech was horrific. At this point there is 0 chance of me getting called back and I would hate to serve in the GOP's senseless war.

My reasons for praying Mccunt doesnt win.


He has allready stated that he wants to end the internet as we know it.
He was responsible for outlawing UFC.
He is WAY too old. Not into voting for VP's.
He is as bad if not worse at public speaking then Bush. (Thats his most important job to tell the truth)
He has allready betrayed our country and thats a known fact.
He changes his stance on every issue to please whatever group attacks him.
He cheated on his wife. That means he will fuck anyone.
He has no clue about our generation or how to connect with them.
He has horrible dental hygiene.


I could go on for days why I wouldnt want that bum as our CIC.

Just like a Neocon to think his people are better than a huge cities population.

People like you are the real reason Obama will win in 08.

An assumption based on an assumption yeah its over, keep dreaming.

when you sign up for the military, its a job. its not a negotiation. if you dont want the money and benefits and bonuses, dont sign up for the military. your purpose in the military is to do what the commander and chief tells you to do.

its like any other job. you are paid for your time and to do the job you signed up for. no one MADE you sign up for the military.

your second point makes no sense, so i dont know how to respond to it.

trust me, if the other energy options were more feasible than oil.. industry and the free markets would have created an alternative solution.. there are other options, but they just dont compare..


we are in iraq for many reasons.. political, financial, strategic. we are not there to liberate iraq. that is what they tell the sheep.

as much as the dems hate america and hate george bush and think this country is run by idiots... its the opposite. the real political, financial, military minds who RUN the country behind closed doors dont disclose everything to the general public...