Has anyone here ever started their own print magazine? - GoFuckYourself.com

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-17-2008, 08:12 PM

If so what were some of the downfalls?

What did you do that was a waste of money and what worked well for you etc??

Thanks

Jim_Gunn · 05-17-2008, 08:34 PM

I cannot imagine why would someone want to start a print magazine nowadays. It's so expensive to print and a million other issues and problems arise depending on what kind of mag you are creating. Even if the creators have years of experience in the magazine industry and are very clever, most magazines fail anyway.

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-17-2008, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn

I cannot imagine why would someone want to start a print magazine nowadays. It's so expensive to print and a million other issues and problems arise depending on what kind of mag you are creating. Even if the creators have years of experience in the magazine industry and are very clever, most magazines fail anyway.

thanks for bringing my brain fart back to reality lol LMAO

Sam Granger · 05-17-2008, 09:03 PM

Internet is taking over, its hard...

Bojangles · 05-17-2008, 10:23 PM

I was thinking about it for a while. My partner and I eventually thought it wouldn't be such a great idea.

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-17-2008, 10:33 PM

Yeah I have an awesome idea on an untapped growing market

startup cost are not a problem but I dont want to go broke trying to make it fly. My main concern is ad sales as my magazine niche is very "questionable" sort of speak

My reasoning behind even giving this a thought over the past 6 months is that I figure that there are other like me who would prefer to sit down and read a good rag vs always surfing the internet

for some reason the net just dosent give me the same feel as reading a good magazine or book for that matter

also... the magazine industry has never seen the likes of my marketing power... i dont know

maybe someday

I guess my main issue is that I am trying to find something to do with my money for a backup as this gravy train will dry up sooner or later

After Shock Media · 05-17-2008, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by pussyserver

also... the magazine industry has never seen the likes of my marketing power... i dont know

I guess my main issue is that I am trying to find something to do with my money for a backup as this gravy train will dry up sooner or later

Those two lines together make me chuckle.

JFK · 05-18-2008, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media

Those two lines together make me chuckle.

Right on

Barefootsies · 05-18-2008, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by pussyserver

thanks for bringing my brain fart back to reality lol LMAO

HairToStay · 05-18-2008, 05:52 AM

The downfalls are distribution. You'll pay $2 for printing and distributors offer you $2.25 per issue. If you do 10 million issues, well, it's not a problem. If not, you need to be sure you have a lot of paid advertising or offer your own products and make a killing.

Sebring Studios · 05-18-2008, 06:57 AM

I did some years ago, and although in retrospect it turned out to be worthwhile as a learning experience, I wouldn't do it again. Like someone said above, 'Why? There's the internet now.'

It was a Harley orientated monthly publication and actually showed a minuscule profit from day one, yet the time involved was brutal. A two-man operation, we did all the:

Layout and design
Wrote the articles and/or edited submissions
Photography
Ad sales
Majority of the distribution
Pre-print set ups
Promotion/ad trades with other publications

And that's just off the top of my head. Probably worked out to where we were making about 50 cents an hour and killing ourselves doing it. The only good part was we advertised our own products and events so there was that upside factor.

Overall, it wasn't worth it and this was long before the net.

I'd recommend that if you have a good concept, build it on the web. It'll be 10% of the cost and work of print and you'll have a ton more upside potential.

CamGurlSpace · 05-18-2008, 07:15 AM

What Sebring said.

I worked for a mail order fetish video company back in the pre-internet days. We put out a couple of issues of a magazine. No advertising; we sold it for $14.95 an issue to our existing direct sales clients, and $7 an issue to adult video stores.

However, between writing all the articles, laying it all out, printing, binding and shipping it, the time put in just didn't pay off.

If you do go ahead & do one, I'd recommend doing themed, timeless issues instead of dating them. That way, you can still sell reprints of each issue for years instead of having it get stale.

I love print, but I don't think it's a responsibility that I'd take on again.

Have you considered testing the water with an online magazine in .pdf form? There are even a few pretty good flash interface systems out there. Zmags is one that takes adult.

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Sebring Studios Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Under the neon moon - Las Vegas Posts: 226	I did some years ago, and although in retrospect it turned out to be worthwhile as a learning experience, I wouldn't do it again. Like someone said above, 'Why? There's the internet now.' It was a Harley orientated monthly publication and actually showed a minuscule profit from day one, yet the time involved was brutal. A two-man operation, we did all the: Layout and design Wrote the articles and/or edited submissions Photography Ad sales Majority of the distribution Pre-print set ups Promotion/ad trades with other publications And that's just off the top of my head. Probably worked out to where we were making about 50 cents an hour and killing ourselves doing it. The only good part was we advertised our own products and events so there was that upside factor. Overall, it wasn't worth it and this was long before the net. I'd recommend that if you have a good concept, build it on the web. It'll be 10% of the cost and work of print and you'll have a ton more upside potential. Last edited by Sebring Studios; 05-18-2008 at 06:58 AM..

05-17-2008, 08:34 PM	#2
Jim_Gunn Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Where The Teens Are Posts: 5,702	I cannot imagine why would someone want to start a print magazine nowadays. It's so expensive to print and a million other issues and problems arise depending on what kind of mag you are creating. Even if the creators have years of experience in the magazine industry and are very clever, most magazines fail anyway.

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Bojangles Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,419	I was thinking about it for a while. My partner and I eventually thought it wouldn't be such a great idea.

05-17-2008, 10:33 PM	#6
pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: I convert perverts like catholic church! Posts: 5,133	Yeah I have an awesome idea on an untapped growing market startup cost are not a problem but I dont want to go broke trying to make it fly. My main concern is ad sales as my magazine niche is very "questionable" sort of speak My reasoning behind even giving this a thought over the past 6 months is that I figure that there are other like me who would prefer to sit down and read a good rag vs always surfing the internet for some reason the net just dosent give me the same feel as reading a good magazine or book for that matter also... the magazine industry has never seen the likes of my marketing power... i dont know maybe someday I guess my main issue is that I am trying to find something to do with my money for a backup as this gravy train will dry up sooner or later

05-18-2008, 07:15 AM	#12
CamGurlSpace Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 9	What Sebring said. I worked for a mail order fetish video company back in the pre-internet days. We put out a couple of issues of a magazine. No advertising; we sold it for $14.95 an issue to our existing direct sales clients, and $7 an issue to adult video stores. However, between writing all the articles, laying it all out, printing, binding and shipping it, the time put in just didn't pay off. If you do go ahead & do one, I'd recommend doing themed, timeless issues instead of dating them. That way, you can still sell reprints of each issue for years instead of having it get stale. I love print, but I don't think it's a responsibility that I'd take on again. Have you considered testing the water with an online magazine in .pdf form? There are even a few pretty good flash interface systems out there. Zmags is one that takes adult.