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Old 05-14-2008, 09:15 PM   #1
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Cheapest dedicated servers?

Who has the cheapest dedicated servers ?

Lots of cheap bandwith and lots of harddrive space..


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Lots of cheap bandwith and lots of harddrive space..


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I cant help but laugh at the people who want cheap. I know sometimes it's about cutting costs, but dont cut too much on a server. Without it you're dead in the water.
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go with www.mojohost.com - cheapest is always the wrong choice, best money can buy and great service is what you need, hit up Brad and youll see a backend that is the best Ive seen in years:

one click and it pages all techs 24/7 and theyre on your problem, YOU decide if its urgent or not and lemme tell you it works
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we are with way3.com - they are great - excellent customer service, helpful and very fast responses to your concerns...i recommend em big time !!!
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How come only one company has the balls to post an actual quote in here?
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How much is lots of cheap bw...

ReliableServers.Com can get you a 100Mbit with a Dual Quad Core 500GB sata server for $799/Month
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go with www.mojohost.com - cheapest is always the wrong choice, best money can buy and great service is what you need, hit up Brad and youll see a backend that is the best Ive seen in years:

one click and it pages all techs 24/7 and theyre on your problem, YOU decide if its urgent or not and lemme tell you it works
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How come only one company has the balls to post an actual quote in here?
Woot, woot.. a rant.

With all due respect I think the joke is on the host posting the offer. Server, bandwidth, space, support and power for $80? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Whatever fuzzy math makes that work, they can have all of the business they want at those rates.

Here are some hosting economics, feel free to flame away.

I don't care if it is a legacy server or some iteration of a brand new shitbox the numbers simply don't work. Based on your average datacenter's ability to cool watts per square foot you are usually looking at about 1 server per square foot in a datacenter per server for proper space planning based on heat and cooling. At a B-C grade datacenter that's anywhere from $10-$20 per square foot per month. At an A-B datacenter the rate changes to $20-$40 per square foot per month. Power ranges from $10-$20 per breakered AMP around the country with typical allowed usage by fire code usually at 75% of capacity. So lets say a host gets a 20 amp circuit for $250/month they're looking at around 15 usable amps. $250/15=$16.67 for 1 amp. That particular server under an average load uses just over 1 amp.

$20/space
$18/power

In all fairness, from what I understand Milan owns the entire datacenter and if that's the case his real cost for the power and space would be less. Although not truly too much less, perhaps half of that amount, as N+1 power systems and maintenance are real costs.

2000 gigs translated back to 95th percentile based on the typical usage pattern of an adult hosting client is anywhere from 7.3 megabit to 8.9 megabit (225G-275G per megabit). Lets just say the host's cost basis for raw bandwidth is $9/megabit and that this is 8 megabit.

$72/bandwidth

Support? Good techs are at least 60k. Cost to carry with matching, health insurance, vacation, etc that's a true $78,000. 2080 working hours a year minus two weeks vacation is around 2000 hours is a raw cost of around $40/hour.

Cost to actually run a business? Legal fees, accountants, billing expenses (CC's, PayPal) How about put metered/switched rack infrastructure in place, have resilient edge routers, cross connects, hundreds of thousands or millions in networking gear... it goes on and on.

I applaud TidalWave for doing business for $79/month and anyone else that will help this part of the market. How much is overage per GB on that TidalWave?


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$0.15/GB for overage Brad

Maybe you would like to move your cage from Miami to here in LA, and reduce your costs some while sacrificing none of the quality. I'm available anytime when you are ready for a quote.
Our tech's are on-site 24 hours a day and we have 4 floors of datacenter here in LA.
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How come only one company has the balls to post an actual quote in here?
No point in losing time ... unless you go at dirt cheap prices, which ends up in lower if not non-existent service and uptime.

Better to go with the generic phrase such as :

" We would love to count you as one of our numerous satisfied clients. Hit us up for a plan made specifically to suit your particular needs ... bla bla .. bla ... bla ... "

Also, if your are not the " host flavor " of the month, it is not even worth posting in such a thread
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Brad Mitchel,can you comment this thread:
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Dude, I only have so much time. Those prices are significantly lower than the wholesale transit buy rates, even if he's mixing in other Tier 2 carriers or select paid peering routes. What else is there to be said? lol.

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$0.15/GB for overage Brad

Maybe you would like to move your cage from Miami to here in LA, and reduce your costs some while sacrificing none of the quality. I'm available anytime when you are ready for a quote.
Our tech's are on-site 24 hours a day and we have 4 floors of datacenter here in LA.

Come on a tour of our installation at August Internext, I'm happy to show the differences. Considering how inexpensively you're selling the servers .15/GB is a very fair deal. I hope everyone goes over!

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Let us know how you get on.. I'm very tempted to become a customer too!
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Brad you have made some very good points in this thread. Fact is people like tidalwave are willing to do anything to sell a server even if that includes selling a server under cost and you know as well as I do they bank on the hope that one out of every three servers they sell someone will go over there committed rate which will make up for the cost they are losing.

.15 a gig over that is highway robbery. That is between 45-48 dollars a mbit.
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Anyways I am wondering what exactly is Pacific Rack? Is it owned by OC3 or are you a reseller? Your tech support number goes to OC3 network operations. Do you guys own a cage in there colo and bring in your own bandwidth?
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joel, you are a bit late and a bit uninformed. feel free to search the forums to get your knowledge up to par.

and you are completely wrong. I am absolutely not willing to do anything to sell a server. we ensure to maintain proper margins to provide LONG TERM exemplary service to all our clients. there have been plenty of people I have turned down for hosting as its just not at a margin that I feel we can support.

Joel; if you knew anything about hosting, bandwidth, or servers, you would know that real world usage of 1Mbps comes out to about 150GB-200GB. THEORETICAL NUMBERS of 320-330GB, mean NOTHING. A users traffic will have PEAKS and VALLEYS throughout the month. 330GB is only equal to 1Mbit if that 1Mbit is used FLAT, throughout the entire month with no dips below or above, THEN it equals 330GB. Tell me a customer who has a FLAT LINE of traffic 24x7 for 31 days?

That .15/GB suddenly becomes $22/Mbit, which all of a sudden is cheaper than that "shit" you call hosting in San Diego.


Oops am I being vulgar and rude? Stop trashing me because you have no clue what the fuck you are talking about.
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I have no need to argue with you Joel or anyone else. My datacenters fill up at an extraordinary pace, and my first priority is to ensure full customer satisfaction and great support.

Feel free to search the internet for reviews on us, and you will see my point proven.
I have colocation clients moving in all the time, entrusting us with their equipment and their livelihood (websites). This means they've come by, met us, seen our datacenter, seen our techs and LOVED what they saw and signed up!

Again, I have no need to argue with you ... you're just jealous.
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Well your overage prices are still coming out to anywhere between $22.5 a mbit and $30 a mbit. My point is you are almost doubling your bandwidth prices in overage and that is what you make your profit on.

Second off you did not answer my question. Does OC3 own Pacific Rack, if not are you a reseller? If not a reseller why does OC3 NOC pick up the phone when calling your support line? Do you have a cage in there colo and bring your own bandwidth in or do you own your own colo? It is simple questions. DO you own the building?

My point being if you are going to talk down to MOJO host who has been around a lot longer and in my opinion deserves a little more respect coming from your company saying he should move his operation to your location tell us why.
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again joel, do your own work. you jump down my throat and try to cause shit, im not going to make it easy for you and give you the answers.
the relationship between pacificrack and oc3 has already been clarified on this forum, i will leave it as vague as that so that you have to go do your own work.

think of it as punishment for opening your yap about shit you know not of.

$22.5 - $30/Mbit is a fine price for such low bandwidth usage, our network is comprised of premium and tier-1 carriers, 11 of them in fact.
Not less than 1 handful like your stuff.

So first you say I sell too cheap, now you say I'm too expensive. MAKE UP YOUR MIND!
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Again, I have no need to argue with you ... you're just jealous.
What do I have to be jealous of?

We own our own IP space, we own our own Employees, we own OUR OWN BUILDING. We do not share a building that has 30 other data centers on each floor and share global transit that is just a loop away.

We host several fortune 500 company's, we have been hosting the adult industry since 1994 as well, we also own a data center in Mexico.

So tell me what do I or other host like mojo host need to be jealous of? Do tell.
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Old 05-15-2008, 11:46 PM   #43
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again joel, do your own work. you jump down my throat and try to cause shit, im not going to make it easy for you and give you the answers.
the relationship between pacificrack and oc3 has already been clarified on this forum, i will leave it as vague as that so that you have to go do your own work.

think of it as punishment for opening your yap about shit you know not of.

$22.5 - $30/Mbit is a fine price for such low bandwidth usage, our network is comprised of premium and tier-1 carriers, 11 of them in fact.
Not less than 1 handful like your stuff.

So first you say I sell too cheap, now you say I'm too expensive. MAKE UP YOUR MIND!
You really do not know what you are talking about. I said you sell your servers cheap knowing you will make bank off the one customer out of every three boxes you sell will do a lot of overage.

Further more do some research yourself. Why don't you come down to san diego and see what its like to own YOUR own building let alone your own colo.
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Old 05-15-2008, 11:47 PM   #44
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Well your overage prices are still coming out to anywhere between $22.5 a mbit and $30 a mbit. My point is you are almost doubling your bandwidth prices in overage and that is what you make your profit on.

Second off you did not answer my question. Does OC3 own Pacific Rack, if not are you a reseller? If not a reseller why does OC3 NOC pick up the phone when calling your support line? Do you have a cage in there colo and bring your own bandwidth in or do you own your own colo? It is simple questions. DO you own the building?

My point being if you are going to talk down to MOJO host who has been around a lot longer and in my opinion deserves a little more respect coming from your company saying he should move his operation to your location tell us why.
was answered in another thread same company that owns OC3 owns part of pacificrack.
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Old 05-15-2008, 11:49 PM   #45
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was answered in another thread same company that owns OC3 owns part of pacificrack.
Thanks for the answer, my point being is that Pacific Rack does not have its own employees then it is nothing more then a company partial owned by OC3 networks and shares its recourses with OC3 Networks.

Glad we got that settled.
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Old 05-15-2008, 11:49 PM   #46
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What do I have to be jealous of?

We own our own IP space, we own our own Employees,

How can i own my own employee? after i own them, i dont have to pay them anymore right?
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Old 05-15-2008, 11:52 PM   #47
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Thanks for the answer, my point being is that Pacific Rack does not have its own employees then it is nothing more then a company partial owned by OC3 networks and shares its recourses with OC3 Networks.

Glad we got that settled.
well, im glad you proved how much of an idiot you are. isn't it about time you take someone to a strip club and try to sell him hosting?
do you make them sign while they are staring at the stage?
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Old 05-15-2008, 11:53 PM   #48
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Guess I am an idiot then since I just made a very valid point and the best you can say is I am an idiot.
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Old 05-15-2008, 11:58 PM   #49
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well, im glad you proved how much of an idiot you are. isn't it about time you take someone to a strip club and try to sell him hosting?
do you make them sign while they are staring at the stage?
Sometimes they do is that a problem
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Old 05-16-2008, 12:05 AM   #50
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What do I have to be jealous of?

We own our own IP space, we own our own Employees, we own OUR OWN BUILDING. We do not share a building that has 30 other data centers on each floor and share global transit that is just a loop away.

We host several fortune 500 company's, we have been hosting the adult industry since 1994 as well, we also own a data center in Mexico.

So tell me what do I or other host like mojo host need to be jealous of? Do tell.
so then why the fuck do you even care about other companies price? it looks like they offer better deal then you do and judging by this forum (nobody said a bad thing about them) have a great support to back it up... if euro hosts can setup 3ghz/1gb ram WITH windows OS for $80/month on 100mbit line with 3000gb monthly transfer I see no reason why others can't do the same thing.. and don't give me that "if you pay that little you get shitty support/shitty pipe line" because my boxes never had a single issue in 2 years 24/7 and the bandwidth is top notch...
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