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Old 05-15-2008, 03:17 PM  
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Originally Posted by DutchTeenCash View Post
go with www.mojohost.com - cheapest is always the wrong choice, best money can buy and great service is what you need, hit up Brad and youll see a backend that is the best Ive seen in years:

one click and it pages all techs 24/7 and theyre on your problem, YOU decide if its urgent or not and lemme tell you it works
Thanks for the mention Bob! I thought I'd have to come in here and clarify that we don't belong on this list.


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How come only one company has the balls to post an actual quote in here?
Woot, woot.. a rant.

With all due respect I think the joke is on the host posting the offer. Server, bandwidth, space, support and power for $80? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Whatever fuzzy math makes that work, they can have all of the business they want at those rates.

Here are some hosting economics, feel free to flame away.

I don't care if it is a legacy server or some iteration of a brand new shitbox the numbers simply don't work. Based on your average datacenter's ability to cool watts per square foot you are usually looking at about 1 server per square foot in a datacenter per server for proper space planning based on heat and cooling. At a B-C grade datacenter that's anywhere from $10-$20 per square foot per month. At an A-B datacenter the rate changes to $20-$40 per square foot per month. Power ranges from $10-$20 per breakered AMP around the country with typical allowed usage by fire code usually at 75% of capacity. So lets say a host gets a 20 amp circuit for $250/month they're looking at around 15 usable amps. $250/15=$16.67 for 1 amp. That particular server under an average load uses just over 1 amp.

$20/space
$18/power

In all fairness, from what I understand Milan owns the entire datacenter and if that's the case his real cost for the power and space would be less. Although not truly too much less, perhaps half of that amount, as N+1 power systems and maintenance are real costs.

2000 gigs translated back to 95th percentile based on the typical usage pattern of an adult hosting client is anywhere from 7.3 megabit to 8.9 megabit (225G-275G per megabit). Lets just say the host's cost basis for raw bandwidth is $9/megabit and that this is 8 megabit.

$72/bandwidth

Support? Good techs are at least 60k. Cost to carry with matching, health insurance, vacation, etc that's a true $78,000. 2080 working hours a year minus two weeks vacation is around 2000 hours is a raw cost of around $40/hour.

Cost to actually run a business? Legal fees, accountants, billing expenses (CC's, PayPal) How about put metered/switched rack infrastructure in place, have resilient edge routers, cross connects, hundreds of thousands or millions in networking gear... it goes on and on.

I applaud TidalWave for doing business for $79/month and anyone else that will help this part of the market. How much is overage per GB on that TidalWave?


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Brad
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