ABC news reports OBAMA now has more Superdelegates - GoFuckYourself.com

SoloGirlsContent · 05-09-2008, 08:22 AM

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finally, let's get this fight on with McCain

Karupted Charles · 05-09-2008, 08:29 AM

Or maybe time to move to canada as no matter who wins we loose it looks like.

Yo Adrian · 05-09-2008, 08:36 AM

A great move forward for both Obama and the dems.. hopefully Clinton gets officially pushed out soon so the real focus on McCain can begin

GatorB · 05-09-2008, 11:32 AM

When Hilalry had more Obama said it would be unfair to win the nomination using super delegates. Now that hes has more and needs them to ge to 2025 he's ok with it. Funny how hypocrisy works.

Tom_PM · 05-09-2008, 11:39 AM

Clinton is up 43 points in a west virginia poll released today, lol.

People who say the party WILL divide dont seem to see that it has been since february. Just look at the vote counts to date.

Plus all these stupid superdelegates saying they wont "override the will of the people". You should vote every single one of them out of office, if they currently are in one, because thats a cop out answer. If all they are there to do is rubberstamp what the popular vote is, then they serve absolutely NO purpose. Been saying that forever now.

It's like if I were to hire someone to press "send" on my emails because it's my will to send emails to those people. Useless, worthless, cop outs. Where's the balls? Wheres the guts? Do they rubberstamp the will of THEIR constituents? Or the will of the COUNTRY (which we dont know yet technically)? They're relegating themselves daily into oblivion by not endorsing NOW and crying about waiting. Absolutely no guts at all, they just want to be able to NOT tick off hillary or barrack OR their voters and it's as simple as that.

GrouchyAdmin · 05-09-2008, 11:40 AM

Can we get back to talking about dildos and someone else taking it up the ass for a change?

uno · 05-09-2008, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

When Hilalry had more Obama said it would be unfair to win the nomination using super delegates. Now that hes has more and needs them to ge to 2025 he's ok with it. Funny how hypocrisy works.

He's winning the election with or without the superdelegates. I don't see the hpocrisy there.

GatorB · 05-09-2008, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom

Clinton is up 43 points in a west virginia poll released today, lol.

People who say the party WILL divide dont seem to see that it has been since february. Just look at the vote counts to date.

Plus all these stupid superdelegates saying they wont "override the will of the people". You should vote every single one of them out of office, if they currently are in one, because thats a cop out answer. If all they are there to do is rubberstamp what the popular vote is, then they serve absolutely NO purpose. Been saying that forever now.

It's like if I were to hire someone to press "send" on my emails because it's my will to send emails to those people. Useless, worthless, cop outs. Where's the balls? Wheres the guts? Do they rubberstamp the will of THEIR constituents? Or the will of the COUNTRY (which we dont know yet technically)? They're relegating themselves daily into oblivion by not endorsing NOW and crying about waiting. Absolutely no guts at all, they just want to be able to NOT tick off hillary or barrack OR their voters and it's as simple as that.

Well if they insist on having super delegates they shouldn't count as 20% of the total delegate count. So if they insist on having 800 super delegates they need to increase the number of regular delegates. Also while proportional delegate allocution sounds like it should make sense it obviously creates problems when there a 2 person race and they basically have the same amount of support. Let 2/3 of the delegates in a primary be proportional the winner of the primary gets the other 1/3. Also get rid of caucuses. How 1800's. If you only coutned states with primaries actually Clinton won more states. sory ahrd for me to count an election as legit when only 5% turn out to vote and those 5% are basically some party insider group.

GatorB · 05-09-2008, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by uno

He's winning the election with or without the superdelegates. I don't see the hpocrisy there.

Um you need 2025 to get the nomination. He's not getting 2025 without super delegates. You suck at math.

Azoy? · 05-09-2008, 12:42 PM

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finally, let's get this fight on with McCain

yes but the real question is does Hillary swallow ?

JFK · 05-09-2008, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Azoy?

yes but the real question is does Hillary swallow ?

YES, thanks for getting back on track here

Kard63 · 05-09-2008, 12:51 PM

I'm voting for Lou Dobbs.

uno · 05-09-2008, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

Um you need 2025 to get the nomination. He's not getting 2025 without super delegates. You suck at math.

My point was that he's winning in every possible way and its pretty much impossible for Clinton to take it.

notoldschool · 05-09-2008, 12:57 PM

Where is AlienQ?

MovieMaster · 05-09-2008, 12:58 PM

The most fucked up aspect of this whole process is that neither of these candidates have spoken out about what there positions are on any dam topics or issues that matter.

They say the most broad BS replys that they never address any issue and up till now its all been smoke and mirrors... They say the dems are against the war my ass! The dems just pushed through a bill funding the war through 2011 ie Nancy Pelosi so come november there is no debate on the war because they know we are winning.

Obama claims he is about change, how can he be? He is one of them a senator with no fucking track voting record... He is a washington insider like the rest...

Clintons claims experience, what fucking experience neither of them have any more than the other candidate...

Democratic party are a bunch of sheep farmers...

If they debated issues instead of BS tabloid shit I would have some respect but they don't

Redrob · 05-09-2008, 01:11 PM

Nobody is talking about the impending food crises in Asia.

Nobody is talking about the wiretaps without warrants.

Nobody is talking about Gitmo and the waterboarding.

Nobody is talking about restarting our economy and what it will take to do it.

Nobody is talking about long-term solutions to the Middle East, Africa, and SE Asia unrest and overpopulation.

Nobody is talking about the human footprint on the Planet Earth.

Nobody is talking about teaching intelligent design as science, witchcraft as medicine, astrology as astronomy, and alchemy as chemistry. (quote)

Nobody is talking about rebuilding public transportation into an efficient system.

Nobody is talking about the next hurricane to hit New Orleans.

Etc, etc. etc.

GatorB · 05-09-2008, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by uno

My point was that he's winning in every possible way and its pretty much impossible for Clinton to take it.

No here is what you said

"He's winning the election with or without the superdelegates. I don't see the hpocrisy there."

and I'm sorry the math doesn't add up. He CAN NOT win without super delegates. FACT

He's got 1592 pledged delegates. If he wins 100% of the remaining delegates that's another 217 pledged delagtes. My math says that's 1809.

directfiesta · 05-09-2008, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool

Where is AlienQ?

.. killing islamics ....

kane · 05-09-2008, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MovieMaster

The most fucked up aspect of this whole process is that neither of these candidates have spoken out about what there positions are on any dam topics or issues that matter.

They say the most broad BS replys that they never address any issue and up till now its all been smoke and mirrors... They say the dems are against the war my ass! The dems just pushed through a bill funding the war through 2011 ie Nancy Pelosi so come november there is no debate on the war because they know we are winning.

Obama claims he is about change, how can he be? He is one of them a senator with no fucking track voting record... He is a washington insider like the rest...

Clintons claims experience, what fucking experience neither of them have any more than the other candidate...

Democratic party are a bunch of sheep farmers...

If they debated issues instead of BS tabloid shit I would have some respect but they don't

Most people don't talk about actual issues during the primary because most of them don't have much of a position on them yet. They aren't going to go through the cost and effort to develop a plan if they are just going to end up losing and not getting to use it. Also, if either Obama or Clinton started putting forth their actual ideas right now that would open them up to criticism by McCain. Most candidates wait until they are nominee and they are able to face the other nominee one on one.

The republicans didn't really put out many ideas either, but that election was over really fast so it's not talked about much.

GatorB · 05-09-2008, 01:22 PM

[QUOTE=Redrob;14170683]Nobody is talking about the impending food crises in Asia.[quote]

Too many over there anyways. It's about time to cull the numbers there.

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Nobody is talking about Gitmo and the waterboarding.

Why? Even McCain is against it.

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Nobody is talking about restarting our economy and what it will take to do it.

I find the economy gets more fucked up the or the government tries to "help". Like a bad cut sometimes there's no magic cure but to let it heal itself over time.

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Nobody is talking about long-term solutions to the Middle East, Africa, and SE Asia unrest and overpopulation.

The middle east has had problems forever. Our part in it started about 100 year ago and really took off in the 1950's when we set up a coup to get rid of the democratically elected leader of Iran to put a guy in there that suited out needs. That's worked out well for us since then hasn't it? lesson. get the fuck out of the middle east and stay the fuck out and if tear each other to shreds so be it.

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Nobody is talking about the human footprint on the Planet Earth.

Al Gore is. Nobody apparently wants him for President.

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Nobody is talking about teaching intelligent design as science, witchcraft as medicine, astrology as astronomy, and alchemy as chemistry. (quote)

state issue, not federal

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Nobody is talking about rebuilding public transportation into an efficient system.

Do you want 50¢ a gallon gas tax ot pay for that?

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Nobody is talking about the next hurricane to hit New Orleans.

When is that supposed to happen? I wasn't aware they scheduled one.

Libertine · 05-09-2008, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

No here is what you said

"He's winning the election with or without the superdelegates. I don't see the hpocrisy there."

and I'm sorry the math doesn't add up. He CAN NOT win without super delegates. FACT

He's got 1592 pledged delegates. If he wins 100% of the remaining delegates that's another 217 pledged delagtes. My math says that's 1809.

The number needed to win factors in superdelegates, though. Obama is winning a majority of pledged delegates, that's a simple fact.

His hypocrisy lies not in the fact that he wants to win by getting more pledged delegates and superdelegates. It lies in the fact that on the one hand, his campaign opposes the rule saying superdelegates can vote whatever they want, and on the other hand fully supports the rule that excludes the Florida delegates from being seated.

In other words, his campaign supports rules when they benefit his candidacy, but not if they threaten it.

But it's all moot now. He has defeated Clinton, and the choice is now between him and McCain. Of those two, Obama is clearly the better choice.

MovieMaster · 05-09-2008, 01:26 PM

I guess I should make my point is neither of the dem. candidate are even talking about the issues that are in question within there own party...

https://youtube.com/watch?v=r7Yd80tXs_4

MovieMaster · 05-09-2008, 07:32 PM

Anyone ?

GatorB · 05-09-2008, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Libertine

But it's all moot now. He has defeated Clinton, and the choice is now between him and McCain. Of those two, Obama is clearly the better choice.

Edwards was the better choice. All the idiot Obama supporters just believe the hype. McCain is going to win. If Edwards gets to be AG then I'm all for Obama because I don't think Edwards is going to waste time on putting "evil pornographers" in jail.

baddog · 05-09-2008, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

Edwards was the better choice. All the idiot Obama supporters just believe the hype. McCain is going to win. If Edwards gets to be AG then I'm all for Obama because I don't think Edwards is going to waste time on putting "evil pornographers" in jail.

That is a sweet idea. Make the candidates tell us who their "Dream Team Cabinet" is. Who will you appoint if elected?

GatorB · 05-09-2008, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

That is a sweet idea. Make the candidates tell us who their "Dream Team Cabinet" is. Who will you appoint if elected?

They already know. I mean come on is McCain going to wait until Jan 19th 2009 to decide his cabinet? No he's already making plans. Hell, he knows who is VP is going to be. He's got a short list for most cabinet positions right now.

Drake · 05-09-2008, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MovieMaster

The most fucked up aspect of this whole process is that neither of these candidates have spoken out about what there positions are on any dam topics or issues that matter.

That's why the debates between the Democratic nominee and McCain will be crucial. It is at that point where the hard questions begin. The focus is not on winning the nomination but winning office, and real issues will be discussed.

baddog · 05-09-2008, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

They already know. I mean come on is McCain going to wait until Jan 19th 2009 to decide his cabinet? No he's already making plans. Hell, he knows who is VP is going to be. He's got a short list for most cabinet positions right now.

Your point? Did you mean to say, "good idea?"

Drake · 05-09-2008, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom

Clinton is up 43 points in a west virginia poll released today, lol.

People who say the party WILL divide dont seem to see that it has been since february. Just look at the vote counts to date.

This doesn't necessarily mean the party is divided. It means that the party is divided when choosing their nominee. But the party could be near intact when it comes to a democratic nominee versus a republican nominee by coalescing around the democratic candidate. Only time will tell if this will happen or if there will be enormous democratic defections.

GatorB · 05-09-2008, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Your point? Did you mean to say, "good idea?"

Sure it's agood idea. what I meant was all these candiates act like they haven't thought about this shit. Ask Obama who his VP is and he'll give some BS replay and act like it's enver cross his mind. He's got 5 or 6 guys on his short list right now.

GatorB · 05-09-2008, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike33

This doesn't necessarily mean the party is divided. It means that the party is divided when choosing their nominee. But the party could be near intact when it comes to a democratic nominee versus a republican nominee by coalescing around the democratic candidate. Only time will tell if this will happen or if there will be enormous democratic defections.

Yeah but the fact that Obama is so far behind in W Virgina means the dems aren't winning that state in november. Obama has stated he think he can win that state in november. He can't even come within 30 points in May.

baddog · 05-09-2008, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike33

This doesn't necessarily mean the party is divided. It means that the party is divided when choosing their nominee. But the party could be near intact when it comes to a democratic nominee versus a republican nominee by coalescing around the democratic candidate. Only time will tell if this will happen or if there will be enormous democratic defections.

I guess you are not paying attention. There are huge percentages of Clinton and Obama supporters that have said they will vote for McCain or just not vote if their candidate did not get the nod.

I mentioned this several weeks ago and people here thought I was nuts. The numbers have grown significantly since then.

GatorB · 05-09-2008, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

I guess you are not paying attention. There are huge percentages of Clinton and Obama supporters that have said they will vote for McCain or just not vote if their candidate did not get the nod.

I mentioned this several weeks ago and people here thought I was nuts. The numbers have grown significantly since then.

Most don't have it in them to vote for "Bush Lite". They'll vote for Nader. Same result, a McCain victory.

Drake · 05-09-2008, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

I guess you are not paying attention. There are huge percentages of Clinton and Obama supporters that have said they will vote for McCain or just not vote if their candidate did not get the nod.

I mentioned this several weeks ago and people here thought I was nuts. The numbers have grown significantly since then.

True, but these types of polls have been taken during the heat of a fierce battle between Democratic nominees. Emotions are running high right now but may be mediated over time depending on how things play out. It may also work just as the polls indicate. However, there is the logic that if two candidates hold virtually the same policy views (Clinton & Obama) while a 3rd does not (McCain), are you going to vote for the 3rd candidate simply to spite one of the candidates because it wasn't your candidate who won? It's hard to predict what people will actually do when the time comes regardless of what early polls tell us.

baddog · 05-09-2008, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike33

However, there is the logic that if two candidates hold virtually the same policy views . . .

haha . . . sorry. You forgot. This isn't about issues. it is about race and gender. Sad, but it is what it is.

Ron Bennett · 05-10-2008, 01:03 AM

The VP is going to be the difference for both Obama and McCain ... my guesses are:

McCain and Lieberman (or maybe Huckabee)

Obama and Clinton

An Obama / Clinton ticket is not a sure thing, but is probably the only way they're going to be able to take on McCain.

There's a remote chance that Gore could become the Democratic nominee and choose Obama as the running mate.

Sounds crazy, but, from my understanding, that is theoretically possible, since neither Democratic candidate has enough pledged delegates - thus it could come down to a brokered vote at the convention for someone other than either of them, such as Gore.

See link below for more details of how Gore (or someone else) could potentially become the Democratic nominee.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/hooman...r_b_99893.html

Ron

flashfire · 05-10-2008, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

Um you need 2025 to get the nomination. He's not getting 2025 without super delegates. You suck at math.

who cares...more people have voted for him, thats how democracy is supposed to work right? Hillary and her pant-suit can hit the road

flashfire · 05-10-2008, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Ron Bennett

The VP is going to be the difference for both Obama and McCain ... my guesses are:

McCain and Lieberman (or maybe Huckabee)

Obama and Clinton

An Obama / Clinton ticket is not a sure thing, but is probably the only way they're going to be able to take on McCain.

There's a remote chance that Gore could become the Democratic nominee and choose Obama as the running mate.

Sounds crazy, but, from my understanding, that is theoretically possible, since neither Democratic candidate has enough pledged delegates - thus it could come down to a brokered vote at the convention for someone other than either of them, such as Gore.

See link below for more details of how Gore (or someone else) could potentially become the Democratic nominee.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/hooman...r_b_99893.html

Ron

Gore will NOT be the nominee...lol

SoloGirlsContent · 05-10-2008, 01:23 AM

LOL OBAMA ON DEF COMEDY JAM

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Lq3NLjdJ4Vc

Rochard · 05-10-2008, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Redrob

Nobody is talking about Gitmo and the waterboarding.

Let's talk about it.

They let one of them go back home the other day, and within a week he slow himself while trying to kill some American service men in Iraq. Surprise!

Hey, if we want to take them surfing at Gitmo.... So be it.

Corona · 05-10-2008, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

Why? Even McCain is against it.

Your flat out wrong. Mr. Maverick trashed all his principles just to win the nomination and voted against prohibiting waterboarding.

SoloGirlsContent · 05-10-2008, 01:35 AM

LOL OBAMA ON DEF COMEDY JAM

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Lq3NLjdJ4Vc

MovieMaster · 05-10-2008, 06:56 AM

huffingtonpost is one of the most worthless political websites out there

aztecboi2003 · 05-10-2008, 07:22 AM

Where the hell is the Aryan nation when you need them. Hilary or McCain FTW. As long as there white every things all right.

uno · 05-10-2008, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike33

That's why the debates between the Democratic nominee and McCain will be crucial. It is at that point where the hard questions begin. The focus is not on winning the nomination but winning office, and real issues will be discussed.

As long as George Stephanopolous isn't the moderator. What a joke that debate was.

uno · 05-10-2008, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

I guess you are not paying attention. There are huge percentages of Clinton and Obama supporters that have said they will vote for McCain or just not vote if their candidate did not get the nod.

I mentioned this several weeks ago and people here thought I was nuts. The numbers have grown significantly since then.

They'll get over it.

GatorB · 05-10-2008, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Corona

Your flat out wrong. Mr. Maverick trashed all his principles just to win the nomination and voted against prohibiting waterboarding.

Um..just 2 months ago

In an appearance on CBS's 60 Minutes, McCain replied, "Sure, yes, without a doubt" when asked if waterboarding is torture.

"We prosecuted Japanese war criminals after World War II," McCain went on, "and one of the charges brought against them, for which they were convicted, was that they waterboarded Americans."

mozadek · 05-10-2008, 05:18 PM

Nothing like reading the ramblings of idiots who are discussing politics.

directfiesta · 05-10-2008, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

Let's talk about it.

They let one of them go back home the other day, and within a week he slow himself while trying to kill some American service men in Iraq. Surprise!

Hey, if we want to take them surfing at Gitmo.... So be it.

clueless ....

Corona · 05-10-2008, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

Um..just 2 months ago

In an appearance on CBS's 60 Minutes, McCain replied, "Sure, yes, without a doubt" when asked if waterboarding is torture.

"We prosecuted Japanese war criminals after World War II," McCain went on, "and one of the charges brought against them, for which they were convicted, was that they waterboarded Americans."

And yet on 13 Feb 08 he voted against H.R. 2082 which would require the intelligence community to abide by the same standards as articulated in the Army Field Manual and bans waterboarding.

Thanks for proving my point that he has lost his bearings and abandoned whatever principles he had in a desperate bid to become president.

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MovieMaster Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 897	The most fucked up aspect of this whole process is that neither of these candidates have spoken out about what there positions are on any dam topics or issues that matter. They say the most broad BS replys that they never address any issue and up till now its all been smoke and mirrors... They say the dems are against the war my ass! The dems just pushed through a bill funding the war through 2011 ie Nancy Pelosi so come november there is no debate on the war because they know we are winning. Obama claims he is about change, how can he be? He is one of them a senator with no fucking track voting record... He is a washington insider like the rest... Clintons claims experience, what fucking experience neither of them have any more than the other candidate... Democratic party are a bunch of sheep farmers... If they debated issues instead of BS tabloid shit I would have some respect but they don't

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MovieMaster Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 897	I guess I should make my point is neither of the dem. candidate are even talking about the issues that are in question within there own party... https://youtube.com/watch?v=r7Yd80tXs_4

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