Vik, I will be in vegas, would love to meet you.
As to timeframe we have bellsouth DSL which was down over 4 hours today. Plus the fact that I dont wakeup til 2-3pm as anyone who knows me can attest.

Nuclei,

What's your direct email? I'd like to speak to you directly re TAVS Pro and sourcing it from you guys.

Pimplink

PimpLink: [email protected]

KantKant: If I didnt pay my coders/support staff I wouldnt have any, yet The same people who helped you over a year ago are still the same ones there, funny that eh?

I have nothing more to add, it is really worst than you can imagine dude, you should meet a doctor.

Be assured that this story won't stop here.
You took me for a joker, you are trying to show me as the perfect imcompetent, even unable to FTP something?

Play you role, you will playing it till the end, the donkey is in your mind.
When i say mixed up, i don't import any code in, and you know it perfectly, i tried to export users info in another database for a second script. Here you can always have the last word and continue to lie as you made till the beginning.

My last words will be:
YOUR SCRIPT IS UNEFFICIENT, IT ALLOW DIRECT CONNECTION OF UNAUTHORISED USERS, DISRUPTION OF YOUR OWN POLICY;
I WANT A REFUND.

BLAZE, do you want to see your money back and stop this plague, i am only waiting you and it won't cost you a penny.
Have the custommers no right in your country?

:1orglaugh

perlscammers.com im selling this domain for 2 bux any takers??

Nuc wasnt it you that was crying a few weeks ago about not being able to make payroll because of your constant fuckups? I never have and never will buy jack shit from you. How many kids you got now? 6-7? with a girl that you screwed behind your wifes back? oh yeah you cheated on lisa, i forgot. lol idiot.

what else.. hmm, where did all the people that used to hang out in #webmasters go? Oh yeah thats right, they left mainly because of you.

You are a scumbag, and you are 2 faced. This thread has not 1 single positive thing about you or your shitty company. All i see is a bunch of double talk by you, and incorrect quotes, and lack of answers for people that had specific questions about them getting a refund on a product that doesnt even work.

Yeah, everyone here knows who i am, and NO ONE here can claim i EVER ripped them off, or had a bad business deal. Say what ever you want, and fabricate what ever you will, the fact remains, you have 0 support and are barely making a living off your lies and deceptions.


I was a member of fallendomains.com that YOU coded, and that site is total shit, i bought about 14 useless domains from your site. Your coding sucked ass, and displayed false info about the popuarity of the domains, and didnt say wether the domain was .jp .fr .de etc..

yeah you refunded me for 1/2 of what i bought, but the other half you made me eat, due to your lack of coding skills. I just wrote it off, and decided to never buy shit from you ever again.

I and many others can on and on about you and your shitty skills at business, but its getting old now. Im just happy that this was finally brought up by several people, and now they know to NOT do business with you =)
mate.

wooo all this from someone who always has something to say about trailer trash and up to a year ago never lived out of one. wow im impressed, I must be climbing in rank or something :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

As for fallendomains showing stuff wrong, no, it showed stuff exactly as the search engines returned =)

yes we did later add a filter to the se results to stop the issue.
However, as someone in webmasters said just yesterday, "He wasnt stupid enough to buy worthless domains, he checked out his picks first." But that would require an IQ above your shoe size so I paid you back for half your stupidity. I was being generous at that.

But I am sure that just by YOU posting here in this thread that sales will show heavy today =)

As for anything else, funny, but I could swear we just got a new house, have a 25 foot cabin cruiser, bah thats enough to cover yer entire last 20 years of income without going further. I would say thats a decent living. =)

Keep talking shit tho Trey =)

[QUOTE]Originally posted by nuclei
[Mav: have we ever not been there to help you with anything you needed, I ask this only to show we do in fact support our products. We have helped Mav with many non-script related things just because he asked.



Actually,

When it comes to help there is a price involved, ( WONT YOU AGREE ) and I believe I have paid. All I am saying is, If I have a business and I sell something, I make dam sure you are happy. If not , I want to know why and how to correct it.

With that said and referring to my post. Robert Anastaia, should be brought back or if you have nothing to do with the script and its updates < If any > give us a contact person that can service the product.

Shit changes man. Service your customers. Doesnt that members fee cover that shit?

Guess who?

yep.... totally avoiding EVERYTHING that was said, and making up your own conclusion.
you are brilliant.

more double talk, more avoiding the issues, and focusing on insults, put downs, and diverting attention away from the source of the problem. You make the perfect adult webmaster.

Whatever the issues are with Nuc, its unfair on anyone to bring up personal relationships/family issues. These are not relevant and don't serve the purposes of debate too well.

That said, the confrontational manner that Nuc adopts with his unhappy customers does himself no favours.

I've been watching this thread with interest, so far I have seen:

1. People who are unhappy with a product for whatever reason.

2. People who do not understand that a myriad of configuration issues and specific circumstances make "off the shelf" scripts unworkable in some applications.

3. People who have an axe to grind and jump on the bandwagon

4. A vendor who gets just a little bit too bullyish with his unhappy customers.

I guess that now that this issue is so public, it remains to be seen who will show themselves to be the better person by formulating a reasonable resolution which (1) is fair and reflects the effort put in by Perlcoders to deliver a product; and (2) allows the aggrieved parties (ex customers) to obtain some redress or resolution of their complaint.

This is probably a classic situation where everyone needs to give a little ground and reach compromise:2 cents:

So in a way you are saying:
But in another way you often said that the modification of the code will leading to an interruption of warranty.

At last your Licence policy sates:
"... Refunds No Refund will be issued when the script is installed and working properly as stated in the scripts information pages, scripts that are installed and working properly are the extent of our responsibility. ..."

And here is what is written in the information page:
"...When your users accounts have expired, there is no need to worry. By simply crontabing a script (example included in the readme) the site will automatically remove these accounts so that your users don't access your sites for a moment longer than they are supposed to. ..."

The problem is that the user can always access the content by direct link. They just have to put it in their favourites !!!!
So i call that a security issue.

And now i will try to be as clear as possible for your small-under-drugs-brain:
I WANT MY MONEY BACK NOW !

:)

HAHAAHA

you were trying to sell your cabin cruiser a few monmths ago, you said it was parked in your back yard.
you have 6-7 kids, all from different mothers. you cheated on lisa, you scam your customers. and you are a thief. plain and simple.

There is nothing i can do to your rep other than what you have done to yourself.


I do believe that there are 2-3 people on this thread asking for a refund, and you have STILL not addressed those people.. why not william?

Of course I ignored everything (except the fallendomains thing). Look at the source. All you can do is throw bullshit. Everyone knows it. You have never once attacked anyone with any basis in fact. Only miscontrued fiction.

Why do you think almost everyone on this entire board hates you?

Grow up and get a life.

nuclei .. I dont think blaze is pissing.. he seems to be asking a question that isnt getting answered. The reason I took issue with this thread was when you said :


When in fact I know that is flat out BS cause I know blaze had informed you of these issues via email, etc. many months ago. Why didnt you just say that he had an earlier version of the script that still had those bugs I was talking about, as you seem to be implying as opposed to telling me that you have no idea about those issues? I posted to the topic about my experience with TAVS, never did I try and sell my scripts, I simply responded how much I thought was a fair price for a custom job and why I thought custom would be better for something like an avs. Just do the right thing and refund blazes money as he tried very hard for several months to get that script working. The fact that you seemed to ignore the fact that blaze even existed , let alone the issues he was having being true, when you first started to post on this topic really made me think that you are just a liar. Lets agree to end this here and see different ways on the programming end of things, but just refund blaze his money.

Rory
:helpme

SEXFIND:

I think the personal attacks on his character are very relavent..

thats who he is, and thats the type of person he is when it comes to business.. he cheats on his WIFE, why wouldnt he cheat his customers?

his OWN emplyees bad mouth him behind his back, he struggles to make payroll and is ALWAYS late paying people. His personal life is a wreck and so is his business.

I call bullshit when i see it, and you MATE are bullshit.

Rory, I have to ask this and I am sorry, but are you blind or what?
read the damn thread mate. #1. I didnt work with blaze, Ryan did. I did not know the details until I questioned Ryan in depth last night. #2. Jack emailed me about getting this cleared up months ago, to which I replied that Ryan was authorize to deal with him to make everyone happy. Jack did not go that route at that time. I have stated at LEAST 4 times in this thread the exact same thing regarding making Jack happy.

And I ignored Jack when it appeared to me that he still was not listening and going thru the proper channel to resolve this, and just pissing.


Trey, you are not even worth the typing.
have a nice day =)

-- edit --
actually Trey, now that I think about it the real reason you are not worth it? The phrase "I refuse to have a battle of wits against an unarmed man" fits perfectly.

Rory is right, you never answered the question.
You just try to show how idiots we are, everythings is the mistakes of the custommer, you are mister perfect, live in a new house and soon will have a boat. You can even affoard you the priviledge to wake up on 2 pm?
If your life is that dream, you ride on the money, the begin to give back his money to raulk.... and then begin to bring us back our !

I can admit i made on my side some mistake, but not all you describe, you were extremly fantasist.... anyway, actually i have an EXPENSIVE script that is sincerly useless, (i guess we don't have to point that again) i am open for a deal but i won accept under 500 $. As it is half of what i want to spent to hire a friend to do that job here in Austria.

You showed to everybody how you can manage your custommer, and i guess you can loose more by continuing in that way, just show us now how you can fairly lead a business.

It's up to you nuclei.

Well said SexFind :)

lol

like i said, you have done yourself and your basement business more harm than good. I just wanted to hop in on the fun and point a few other details that alot of people dont know about you.
mate.


PEOPLE WANT A REFUND WILLIAM CROSS, ARE YOU GOING TO GIVE IT TO THEM?!?!?!

answer the question you dumbass.

Yes our terms do say that if you modify the script we will not install updates. This would overwrite any changes you made. However even tho you copy/pasted other scripts code into tavs and broke it, did we not STILL go in and fix it for you free?

Okay, this is too much. You are talking about being able to link directly to a submitted sites members area. Submitted site are small avs sites that users submit or you make yourself and have NOTHING to do with our script what so ever! It is the webmaster who owns that avs site to make sure his members area can not be accessed EXCEPT tru the avs system. Every webmaster out there knows this and can tell you how to use .htaccess to do this. Hell WE have explained it countless times. It has NOTHING to do with the bloody script.


Read the above and it is clear who has the under average IQ KantKant.

Someone mentioned that I am a bit short with a certain customer. Read the above and see what I see every few days from this guy for the past year. Hell yes I am short with him.

Sexfind you are 101% right it seems that every tavs and tavspro owners has a different idea of what their avs system should do. Many of them have me or pc or both do the mods they requested and the others have in-house coders do the mods. In jims case he did both. James hired me for some mods but most where done by the original tavs coder "Guy" and im sure James has done some of the coding himself or had a different coder work on it. (I was also the guy that incorporated tavs standard into James design.) Ageverify (I guess they are oneverify now) was the first site to use totalavs pro and had me and randor (the coder of tavs pro) make many many custom mods that are only used on ageverify. Once ageverify had reached the limits of what I could do they had their in-house coders get with me and they modified the webmaster stats to work with epoch and track Everything! I'm not sure of the extent of the in-house mods because I wasn?t managing them. Mav and Taz are running an unmodified version of tavs pro which did have bugs and the bugs where fixed a while ago.

As for kankan, he bought the tavs standard and had foz install it and I tested it, it was working. It isn?t a near as advanced system as the pro. Not more then a few days later kankan delete over half the script and asked for a reinstall which we did. He then moved his server or lost it and we had to reinstall and guess what he deletes it yet again. This time kankan didn?t want a reinstall he just wanted the script so I asked randor to send it to him. He did but he sent the pro version by mistake ... we then corrected that error by sending the standard version. Kankan tried bastardizing the pro to the standard tavs but it didnt work. ?<kankan> I just try to integrate the topsite on the front page but we never get into the pro version !? Wtf that wasn?t in the standard version it was in the pro only. Finally after many hours of hand holding everything was working great! using ccbills oldest system of passing through the welcome_page, he was happy. Now if you remember back when they avs systems didn?t use or allow any htaccess that is how being used in about every avs system and is built into tavspro. Anyway, kankan wont let us on his server to help him with the code nor does he understand how to set a htaccess up or create a htaccess file. Its fucking ridiculous it really is, and that is why kankan is disliked by so many on the chat boards not just pc.

KANKAN here?s the htaccess code for the 100th time and everyone else this think of this as a gift. Don?t say I didn?t give u anything?

AuthUserFile /dev/null
AuthGroupFile /dev/null
RewriteEngine On
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://domain.com [NC]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://www.domain.com [NC]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://avssite.com [NC]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://www.avssite.com [NC]
RewriteRule /* http://domain.com/referjoin.html [R,L]

No joke folks, kankan has been at us for 8 months cause he cant cut and paste the code above, no shit?.

Brujah the clients aren?t dumb but some of them need more help then others and a few need A LOT of help. Plus, a few of the scripts are very large and sense they aren?t cookie cutter scripts they can get confusing. The vast majority of clients need very little help.

Blaze is a different story; shit went bad ? I tried my hardest as well as taz and it just didn?t work out. Nuc has authorized me to settle with blaze, which blaze and I are doing now. It really is to bad, many folk are using the pro system to make money ? I guess these things happen.

Many folk here have asked how is it that I supported tavs/tavs pro and im not employed by pc. The truth is I managed pc?s accounting and helped Will with the larger accounts in exchange he would give me the design clients for a % of coarse. As of 4 months ago maybe less I ?retired? from pc and everything service related and now just hang around to help with old accounts and collect my retirement. Lol It may sound like a somewhat one-sided arrangement but you have to understand many of the things I do aren?t just for money. I like making money but I also like a good challenge ? and I honestly work my hardest for all my clients. That is why I paid taz to help me with blaze, it tore me up to see an unhappy client. Everyone that has worked with me knows this, I dream about my clients? jobs till I get them right. They also know that the reason I work is to keep my mind fresh, im in an electric wheelchair and classified as a high level quad as far as my movement? I can feel everything (for the gals that are reading this). The internet is my escape. Hopefully that will shed light on some stuff. Will doesn?t tell anyone cause it shouldn?t matter and I don?t either for the same reason.

Anyway im off to build my empire?if you need any work done don?t ask me im retired!

Raulk aka ryan

Yeah i know, one more time the custommer is the idiot.

If i bought your script it was to don't have to write it.
If the solution was so simple with this htaccess file then you should have provided it to me months ago, as i can see i requested it since last may....

But i remember well the first time, you know when i wanna buy your fucken script and where you were so friendly, i asked a lot of question to you, to the coders of your team and also to your wife.
I clearly stated that i need a full automated script but our priority was the security, and above all this point about the "members aera."

Now, it is too late, i discovered this place where i saw the true face of your business.
I don't care if you will providing me the htaccess file, i don't care if you put me on your black list or will trying to sell some other of you shits.... You are burning yourself your business...
By your behavior and all your answers, just show how you threat custommers....
But as showen you are strong to show how fool we were to trust you but you never get into the money point....
Arf.... Let you live with you painfull conscience, just i will taking the time to send this link to all the forum that i know...
It is so big, it is so funny in fact, i was reading one more time this thread, and you can't imagine how jack-ass you are ....

You won't refund my money, well, i will take the time to destroy slowly your business by showing the face of his leader.
As you did with superscripts.com, now the fire will back in your face.

Just check how mister perfect can be :
http://www.perlcoders.com/truth/
:glugglug

KantKant: I think Ryan just put the fact out well enough for all to see about you. Well enough that I am done with your part in this thread.

Go right ahead and make a page with no evidence whatever. In case you didnt notice our truth page lists exact emails, posts, screencaps, etc about the person it is showing to be a crook.
As soon as you do put up any page without proof I will post every email, every chat session with you and everything done by our techs, including their screencaps of the script working properly over the past year. What do you have to post? Nothing except messages which show the script installed and working. Oh, and then you will see how good our lawyers are.

Ryan: Well put post.

haha
[email protected] is just part of his catchall, dont be threatend by his 'i will get my lawyer' bullshit. He has no lawyer.


Nuc i need a little script written that will make this word 'scammer' flash nice and bright, can you handle that? or do you need to outsource it to some more coders?

lol

I like your fary tale also, above all when it is not the same of your boss....
You should use this slogan for the next advertising campaign of perlcoders:
"Far away from the imagination..... in the Lie."

Other thing, I never get satisfied with ccbill welcome_page or anything else as i never never never got a merchant account with them.... hmmm hmm.

Just show up one more time that we are so idiots and are almost unable to piss alone.... thanks dad for the htaccess code, now can i clean up my ass with cause it is too late....

At last, thanks to choose the retirement, i can imagine how it was difficult to work in that conditions, always waiting your money, idiots custommer, lyer co-workers, a lot of support to provide for free, must support a man like nuclei...... Yeah made us this flower.
Stop with this business also and go sell ice cream on the beach...

To clarify this lying at last, i was not here 8 month only for that problem of htaccess but for all i related before, but you were to lazy to read all this thread, you just give an intervention on the request of nuclei to save the face of this bandit-business .

I'm out of this thread. After speaking with both William and Ryan offline we have come to a settlement that we are all happy with. I'll leave the details private unless William wants to post them.

Unfortunate that it went this route, but good that it has been resolved to all parties' satisfaction.

Well, I have to go sign a peace treaty on a battleship in the middle of the Atlantic. See you all...

Jack, Just to clarify one point, did I say anything offline that I didnt say here in this thread?

wow, that sure is mighty big of perlcoders to resolve the issue FINALLY after all the bad press..
so what do you think william? all press is good press? haha

Threating, is just the way that you know.

But i am not affraid by your practice, no i have nothing but this thread where the consummer federation will reading all the complaints about your business, and yes if you want publish the log of your chat, but do it in the next 20 minutes, i can imagine how vicious you are to try to modify them, if it isn't already done.
Yeah publish it, but please, uncensored and uncutted, it will provide me another proof of your unability to lead a business.

You spoke about a boat and a new house, i am sure that the financial inspectors will be also curious to see how you win all that money... maybe with all the consummer you stole.

My money is lost till the days i signed up with you, so it won't change nothing for.... but for you ? arf, i forgot so rich as you are you wont have any problem with that.

At last, cause i am fed up with all this story and here it is time to go to bed, i don't care if my advocate are good, because they are free for me. Even it is the worst of the world, my private insurrance will pay him, so as i doubt you even have one, i am sure it will cost you more to hire one than refund me.
So i don't care of all you bitch words, it is just an grand'ma blabla, you are maybe good to scare your wife or your childrens, but with me you are just able to make me laugh... and when i laugh it is the moment where you should begin to ask yourself some questions.

That was my last point, now begin the advertising.
as you like to say : Have a nice day :)

I will elt jack answer my last post about this. I said nothing offline that I did not say here. Jack went the route I had been saying to go for months.

Now he posts that it has been resolved.

Trey I will let people read the entire thread to see what is what and not just try pushing the emotive bits like you are trying to do.

I understand you just dont know any better and all. But you really should learn =)

The chat logs of the support channel is probably in the neighborhood of 10 gigs of text file in one file. I highly doubt anyone will be editting it anytime this year.

Hmmm has this thread won pimplink a DVD yet?

Vik, what is your email mate?

I have a customer who has been with us a while needing a windows app.
We dont do windows, so if you would like to try helping him I can forward you his program request.
Drop me a line at [email protected]

I'd love to help you out on the Windows app, but I've barely touched Pascal/Delphi in the past 4 years. Played around with it briefly on the web server side, but Borland (or whoever owns them now?) wanted too much for their Enterprise edition, so I started playing with C++, but really didn't have the time to learn that up to an advanced level. In addition, my server runs FreeBSD/Apache/MySql, so I've been slowly trying to convert myself over (programming-wise) to that platform using Perl (but I do miss Borlands fantastic compiler). I can do many elementary-intermediate things in the Perl/FreeBSD world and hopefully soon will complete my first Perl-MySQL program, but I wouldn't feel comfortable doing a Windows program for anyone but my own practice. To make my long response short, I don't think I'm the guy, but thanks for the referral.

And anyone can e-mail me anytime at [email protected] (among many other domain addresses LOL).

:stoned

vik

Well i noticed hits from this tread to my site (hentaikey.com) and wanted to share some info relating to TAVS PRO.

It is a off the shell script and does work if you install it, but like most scripts that I purchase, does not exactly fit to what i want, any webmaster should understand that and know a script has to be configured for the features you want, you can run it the way it is, but then all avs sites have the same features what makes your site like veryone elses sites, what again is common with of the shelf scripts.

As for the security issues, you can run your member area trough ccbill or any cc processor you use, they all offer password-login access and you need to Htaccess your member folder, as for the sites its up to the webmaster to do so, unless you host all other webmasters sites then you can add the Htaccess file on to the server directly.

Also like any other script/software you get there will be always glitches and bugs to be worked out, and offcours you need to configure it for what you want, I worked an E-mail affiliate script in to the avs script and changed the directory tree to what I like.

Overall this is the best of the shell avs script i found, i got the other ones but they have absolutly no features, if you put some work in to the script, you need to understand some coding, then you can get it to work as a complete avs script.

my payout/ fraud checker functions do work also webmaster stats/add sites/edit sites/ expire user scripts do work, however we decited to expire users manualy, not because of the script but because the billing proccesor will let users cancel/rebill and there is no way for the script to retieve that information unless you billing processor send that information to the avs script, what is rarely the case.

The Support is a little slow sometimes but in the end Ryan always has ome true for me and fixed the issues we had, even after modifying the script ryan and william always helped out, and yes I modifyed the script a lot, added other scripts to work in conjunction with the TAVS PRO script, what also caused some issues that mostlikely were my fault for changing all the config/ template files.


If you have any questions feel free to e-mail me
at [email protected]

I am not an employe of PC or affiliated with PC in anyway, all my comments are based on real time experience with their support and instalation/configuration of the AVS script.

Thank god you put (Adult Verification System) in your sig cause I have been wondering for like 4 years what AVS meant. Seriously though you got here pretty late, you must have given PC an email that you dont check very often :Graucho . Thread is over though, PC refunded blaze , they look like the good guys and thread goes away. Dont you know that is how things work around here.

Oh btw lemme be the first to say Go Fuck Yourself :321GFY :321GFY

Rory
:helpme

It's pretty bad. Fairly aweful indeed. The other "premade" AVS script is worse.
Be careful though, you could easily spend a few thousand dollars and get soemthing almost as bad.
My perspective -
I was hired to come in a fix an AVS that used it. I've rewritten most of the code.

Wow this post really brought some of the avs people out of the woodwork lol. Hi Ray, Bye Ray.

Rory
:helpme

lol, i am use to write it it out because you be surprised on how many surfers/webmasters actualy dont know what it means.

I got no e-mail from PC, i checked my stats log and found several hits from here, thats why i am late.

actualy the tread was about if anyone is using the script and not about blaze getting his money back, thats why the responce, giving the money back to blaze has nothing to do with me.

anyway just my 2 cents on the dollar.

... interesting reading, almost 1.5 years ago I had my very own expirience with perlcoders and their fallendomains.com system. I couldn´t find one usefull domain within the system, but best thing was that none of the domains were available. and they did not update the database for many month. maybe things have changed now, but I am still waiting on anyone recommending this company ...

Actually 1.5 years ago is about right. We lost root server access and ended up closing the site down. The site was reopened about 6 months ago with all new systems in place. Funkmaster, drop me an email and I will be happy to give you a free month membership to find out if it rocks :thumbsup

btw our lists are updated daily.

Thread had nothing to do with blaze. Pimplink asked simply if anyone used tavs and their experiences. I think that has been well answered.

The blaze issue was just an offshoot to the topic.