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Krome · 10-14-2002, 06:27 PM

I reckon one out of the big three processors, ibill, epoch or ccbill will go bust over the next 6 months due to this visa business. I personnally do not reckon ibill but the other two will be a bit cash flow fucked...

Jayson · 10-14-2002, 06:30 PM

Krome · 10-14-2002, 06:32 PM

actually is anyone betting at fuckedcompany.com ? lets have some money on this!!!

Who wil be getting there "Bye Bye" letters soon....

Sly_RJ · 10-14-2002, 06:33 PM

Without a fucking doubt.

Sly_RJ · 10-14-2002, 06:34 PM

I'm waiting for the law suits to start. Somebody fucked up.

Fletch XXX · 10-14-2002, 06:36 PM

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Originally posted by Sly_RJ
I'm waiting for the law suits to start. Somebody fucked up.

heh, maybe.

Krome · 10-14-2002, 06:38 PM

A friend of mine is up for putting £10k on Epoch...I have told him it is a shit bet...

Brown Bear · 10-14-2002, 06:42 PM

I would bet Epoch will go out of business.

Krome · 10-14-2002, 06:44 PM

If one of these goes down, which they will, it does not matter if you have paid your $750 you will have to pay it again to another processor.....you will lose your rebills plus that months sales, then have to fork out $750 to another one...you want to be where everyone else is as they will be making the money.....with 3000 sites now over with Globill one of these will fall...you can bet on more than one....

Jayson · 10-14-2002, 06:52 PM

Anyone who has all their billing with one processor as of next month is very silly.

Krome · 10-14-2002, 06:56 PM

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Originally posted by Jayson
Anyone who has all their billing with one processor as of next month is very silly.

Lets see the momey who are you betting on...come on show me those dollars....

Jayson · 10-14-2002, 07:01 PM

Not sure which it will be but your prediction of 2 of the 3 wouldnt suprise me.

^R3K^ · 10-14-2002, 07:02 PM

no chance of it.. mark my word, not only will they be in business but there will be 30 others hehe

Jayson · 10-14-2002, 07:04 PM

The way I see it the billers have been operating outside of Visa's rules for years and were sitting around with their limbs crossed hoping they didnt get yanked. (I may be totally wrong but I dont think so)

Building a business on those foundations should see them being hung up to dry.

SetTheWorldonFire · 10-14-2002, 07:06 PM

I bet I can make you gamble

Krome · 10-14-2002, 07:38 PM

Lets look at the facts...

CCbill - Master of the small clients who they then try to make big
Epoch - Big time processor who has lost millions before and swallowed it
Ibill - Masters of serious scrubbing..can anyone get a card to go through with them? However they have moved out of being just internet only based company.

buran · 10-15-2002, 06:16 AM

I don't think any of them will have folded. I also don't think you'll have seen any new serious contenders in that market space. Let's face it, allowing a bajillion adult webmasters to process transactions on a Merchant Account someone over there is personally responsible for has to be at least a bit scary.

I think more of what you're seeing is backroom dealing between the government and Visa. The government wants to start tracking information on where the money is coming from in our industry, and Visa wants desperately for changes to the bankruptcy laws. A little horse trading goes a long way in politics.

What do you suppose the US has given away to buy the other countries into our little war in Iraq? Not to get off on a rant here...

steffie · 10-15-2002, 06:37 AM

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Originally posted by Jayson
Anyone who has all their billing with one processor as of next month is very silly.

10-14-2002, 06:27 PM	#1
Krome Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: London - UK Posts: 2,851	Any one up for a bet? I reckon one out of the big three processors, ibill, epoch or ccbill will go bust over the next 6 months due to this visa business. I personnally do not reckon ibill but the other two will be a bit cash flow fucked...

10-14-2002, 06:30 PM	#2
Jayson Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: CZ Posts: 554	yep

10-14-2002, 06:33 PM	#4
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10-14-2002, 06:42 PM	#8
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10-14-2002, 06:32 PM	#3
Krome Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: London - UK Posts: 2,851	actually is anyone betting at fuckedcompany.com ? lets have some money on this!!! Who wil be getting there "Bye Bye" letters soon....

10-14-2002, 06:38 PM	#7
Krome Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: London - UK Posts: 2,851	A friend of mine is up for putting £10k on Epoch...I have told him it is a shit bet...

10-14-2002, 06:44 PM	#9
Krome Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: London - UK Posts: 2,851	If one of these goes down, which they will, it does not matter if you have paid your $750 you will have to pay it again to another processor.....you will lose your rebills plus that months sales, then have to fork out $750 to another one...you want to be where everyone else is as they will be making the money.....with 3000 sites now over with Globill one of these will fall...you can bet on more than one....

10-14-2002, 06:52 PM	#10
Jayson Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: CZ Posts: 554	Anyone who has all their billing with one processor as of next month is very silly. __________________ Sapphic Cash - We Do It Right

10-14-2002, 07:01 PM	#12
Jayson Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: CZ Posts: 554	Not sure which it will be but your prediction of 2 of the 3 wouldnt suprise me. __________________ Sapphic Cash - We Do It Right

10-14-2002, 07:02 PM	#13
^R3K^ Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: North Carolina Posts: 2,815	no chance of it.. mark my word, not only will they be in business but there will be 30 others hehe

10-14-2002, 07:04 PM	#14
Jayson Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: CZ Posts: 554	The way I see it the billers have been operating outside of Visa's rules for years and were sitting around with their limbs crossed hoping they didnt get yanked. (I may be totally wrong but I dont think so) Building a business on those foundations should see them being hung up to dry. __________________ Sapphic Cash - We Do It Right

10-14-2002, 07:06 PM	#15
SetTheWorldonFire Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: California Posts: 7,444	I bet I can make you gamble __________________ www.STWOFDesign.com hit me up on icq 154206276 or Skype: JaimeGizzle

10-14-2002, 07:38 PM	#16
Krome Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: London - UK Posts: 2,851	Lets look at the facts... CCbill - Master of the small clients who they then try to make big Epoch - Big time processor who has lost millions before and swallowed it Ibill - Masters of serious scrubbing..can anyone get a card to go through with them? However they have moved out of being just internet only based company. Last edited by Krome; 10-14-2002 at 07:41 PM..

10-15-2002, 06:16 AM	#17
buran Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: how'd I get here? Posts: 264	I don't think any of them will have folded. I also don't think you'll have seen any new serious contenders in that market space. Let's face it, allowing a bajillion adult webmasters to process transactions on a Merchant Account someone over there is personally responsible for has to be at least a bit scary. I think more of what you're seeing is backroom dealing between the government and Visa. The government wants to start tracking information on where the money is coming from in our industry, and Visa wants desperately for changes to the bankruptcy laws. A little horse trading goes a long way in politics. What do you suppose the US has given away to buy the other countries into our little war in Iraq? Not to get off on a rant here... __________________ [this signature intentionally left blank]